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DaSawx
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Longy413 said:Gary Ayres
really? I thought he was the root of all our problems
It is important to get McVeigh, McPhee along with Camporeale as forward as possible.
They have good disposals, but we are like 6th for inside 50's and really do waste a lot of opportunities.
A forward line of Lloyd, Johns, Lucas, Gumbleton, Lovett, Hird, however they want to work it would be exciting, we just need someone to hold down CHB.
DaSawx said:really? I thought he was the root of all our problems
From memory the whole Ayres/McLeod fallout begin because McLeod was unhappy with Ayres' coaching style, which included playing McLeod at half-back.
marcuz
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Longy413 said:
Are they genuine bounces or "Brett Peake" bounces?
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DaSawx
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Longy413 said:
They may be the future WCE, good midfielders, no forward line.
Just thought Kernahan was keen on his fellow South Australian, not sure how much input he has.
As long as all the signs point to us draft another Scotty, I'll be happy, make it happen fellas.
DaSawx said:
I think you will find they will draft either Gumbleton or Hansen.Probably Gumbleton
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DaSawx said:
That forward set up sounds good but we'd get belted at the kick ins with the rule as it presently stands.
Just kick it to the opposite flank that Lovett is on and take on the others. Before you know it the ball would be inside the opponents 50.
If Laycock and Ryder can become a key ruck duo, we'll look so much more damaging up front with Hille being a marking forward. He's been on our list for a heck of a long time so Im hoping he still has some improvement in him....hes yet to take the next step up.
Not many clubs now that dont have a dominant ruckman on their list.
Not many clubs now that dont have a dominant ruckman on their list.
If you include play around the ground, I'd say Hille is in the top 5-6 ruckmen in the AFL at the moment. Its not that surprising that the last two weeks where Hille has been returned to the no. 1 ruck position that we have killed the opposition in clearances. I'm not giving him all the credit for the improvement in clearances but he certainly does contribute to them.Crave said:
zafa23 said:
Id have Hille middle of the comp right now with the likes of Cox, Simmonds, Charman, Lade, Everitt, White, Fraser and lets not forget Darcy also if he was right....I regard those 7 ruckmen in front of Hille at the minute.
Longy413 said:
Yeah, you're right.... bit of a line call there. I didnt really have them in any particular order though. to nominate the best ruckman this season, I couldnt go past Lade (only after Cox injured his foot)
However, if Laycock n Ryder become accomplished, I dare say we'll have extremely potent tall timber at our disposal and sneak under everyone's radar while the other aforementioned continue to dominate the stats sheets.
Ideally in the sorter term if Laycock and Hill can rest in a pocket they are both capable of easily kicking 2-4 goals between them which would also give opposition coaches a head ache as combined with Lloyd, Johns and Lucas would be a very tall backline.
As Ryder is ready, lets say 3 years, we may look at trading one or play then in pocket,ruck and bench and rotate them all.
As Ryder is ready, lets say 3 years, we may look at trading one or play then in pocket,ruck and bench and rotate them all.
Stargazer
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OK, but you're judging Johns on the strength of one game. Lucas has been a consistent contributor for years. Also, Johns doesn't need the constant wear and tear of playing in the toughest position n the field.daveyboy3 said:
Laycock would be better - he has the size that would make him a formidable chf.
With Lloyd at FF, Laycock chf, Lucas on a flank, Johns on a flank or in a pocket, and Watson, Lovett and Monfries rotating from the midfield with MJ as well if needed, we'd have a pretty potent forward line again.
LLoyd has to play at FF. He's the best FF in the land by a fair way and is no good anywhere else.
I've been disapointed with Keppler and he hasn't come on as i hoped so i think putting Lucas back to CHB wouldnt be a bad idea. We might not have great run from defence, but Lucas and Fletch can both kick it long and kicking the footy is a lot quicker than running it. Mcphee should also go back as a back flanker where he was at his best.
It is still big guys that win footy matches and more importantly finals footy matches, so if there's future superstars in the draft get them while we can ( i hope we're not planning to stay down for to long) and if we end up with to many of them we can trade some of the duds for midfielders.
I've been disapointed with Keppler and he hasn't come on as i hoped so i think putting Lucas back to CHB wouldnt be a bad idea. We might not have great run from defence, but Lucas and Fletch can both kick it long and kicking the footy is a lot quicker than running it. Mcphee should also go back as a back flanker where he was at his best.
It is still big guys that win footy matches and more importantly finals footy matches, so if there's future superstars in the draft get them while we can ( i hope we're not planning to stay down for to long) and if we end up with to many of them we can trade some of the duds for midfielders.
Big John said:
I also prefer Lloyd at FF but to say he is no good anywhere else is wrong.
He would rack up many possesions playing most other positions and has done so playing CHF many times.
IMO he is best bet at FF with Johns next to him.
