Kickouts

[smoovy]

What if someone actually went left for a change. Maybe that would be a one on one because the opposition all know Adelaide all go right.

It's ingrained in us from what I think is years of having no left foot option.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

Its a set play. Nothing to do with who kicks it. Breaks down when you have a bloke whos 211 cm slowly running around the area.

Well, it is as it's decision making.

The 211 cm had nothing to do with it as this occurred more than today. If the person kicking it in, had better decision making skills then they could see where he is and make a better decision.

Unless the crow bots are back. But then again, everything is Sando fault.

 

[ltdamn]

For the most part, the bloke kicking in is either Smith or Jaensch, who are both right footers so it doesn't make any sense as to why we chose the right side all day.

 

[smoovy]

For the most part, the bloke kicking in is either Smith or Jaensch, who are both right footers so it doesn't make any sense as to why we chose the right side all day.

The idea is to play the ball toward the boundary, hopefully find a runner, which would have to be on their right boot.

 

[ltdamn]

The idea is to play the ball toward the boundary, hopefully find a runner, which would have to be on their right boot.

It partially worked, Sandilands IS a right footer but we never found him on the run today.

Oh well, next week.

 

[androidtommy]

The body language of the player kicking out gave it away from the start. They seemed to turn to the right side which was a dead giveaway every time.

They don't even pretend they are going to kick it to the other side. There could be players free and they wouldnt see them at all because they are so focussed on waiting for the precise time to kick it to jacobs

 

[Tarasque36]

Quite a few of us have pointed this out, all year. Its 90% the big bomb to the same spot 60m out. But why are we not properly set for it? Someone there to 'shield' Jacobs as he goes for the mark?
Remember the old Rutten and Bock set play? Kick to one on the 50m, the other provides a 'block' on the nearest opponent.
And most times when its spoilt, theres more opponents there than us.... aren't they full time professionals? If we are set up to out-number them, then that is a plan.
The kick outs are really frustrating me. We turn it into a 7 point play for them way too often. At this rate we should just torp it up the middle, see if randomness can favour the brave.

 

[adelaidecrows]

I have a feeling that todays kickouts to the same side were a ploy to suck Sanderlands to a certain part of the ground. The problem was I think we failed to determine when to flick the switch and expose them. I truly think Fremantle won on reputation more so than actually being so much better. Our mental side of the game was just crap.

 

[DJ75]

I have a feeling that todays kickouts to the same side were a ploy to suck Sanderlands to a certain part of the ground. The problem was I think we failed to determine when to flick the switch and expose them. I truly think Fremantle won on reputation more so than actually being so much better. Our mental side of the game was just crap.

absolutely wrong. We do it every week at every ground against every opponent.
And it never works well.

 

[Bailey01]

Do we hate the left side or something?

 

[smoovy]

Do we hate the left side or something?

Yes

 

[DD#23]

Do we hate the left side or something?

of course, no one has a left boot so how are they supposed to head into the corridor from the left wing?

 

[Rear Admiral]

Its a set play. Nothing to do with who kicks it. Breaks down when you have a bloke whos 211 cm slowly running around the area.

Bingo .

I couldn't care less if it was the Tooth Fairy kicking it in, it's our bl00dy coaching panel that are responsible for this bottomless pit of Yak Sh*t we're kicking ourselves into, when coming out of Defence.
Sure, players can be responsible for shanking kicks or fumbling the ball, but what's going on with our kick-in strategy....there is no f*****g way our players could repeat that mess so many times - any players....from any club.
And if I recally correctly, there was some similar disease present in the Coaches' Box when Neil Craig was there, where he persisted with Johncock taking the kick-ins, where it clearly wasn't working, even when it cost us goals and games.

 

[Rear Admiral]

Could be........but still a better result.


And Port take the game on more than any side in the comp. It is rare they would allow themselves to be hemmed in. Hawthorn tried it last week.


As said in their commentary yesterday when the game was a bit tight. Port will just persist with run and carry and attack the goal front regardless of what the score is. Keep doing this and if you are good enough, which they are, sheer weight of number of attacking attempts will get the score and break the opposition.

Could not agree more . But to make it work, you need a combination of foot speed and lateral skills/evasiveness through the Middle. And with the exception of Eddie Betts and Charlie Cameron....we just don't have. Nor can we train our players to attain this skill.
This post below is well worth a read; pretty much breaks down and focuses on what you're trying to say -

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/good-bad-and-ugly-v-freo.1065964/page-9#post-33464328

What Sando seems to have done is put all his eggs in one basket - he's loaded up our Forward Line with "invincible talls" (not even Kryptonite would hurt them), where every other part of our game will take care of itself .

 

[Rear Admiral]

I think THE COACHES should be forced to watch the stupidity of every one of those kick outs over and over. They should have to listen to what the commentators were saying about their predictability with the kick outs and the bombing it long played over and over during the week too. Honestly though when the team doesn't lead or run in waves they might as well kick it to the same place and give it back to the opposition. Because no-one is there to receive it and no-one is further a field to kick it to.

So frustrating to watch.

 

[skoobydoo]

The idea is to play the ball toward the boundary, hopefully find a runner, which would have to be on their right boot.

Yes a runner...a runner! Wouldn't that be nice. It can only be an instruction because even though we know where the kickin will go we still do not get blockers, crumbers to the contest at the fall of the ball! Seriously disenchanted.

 

[Bay62]

They don't even pretend they are going to kick it to the other side. There could be players free and they wouldnt see them at all because they are so focussed on waiting for the precise time to kick it to jacobs

This happened several times in the Collingwood game, Martin out in space on the western side screaming for it. They ignored him and kicked it to the right.

Fortunately that night it didn't kill us. I just really liked seeing someone having the initiative to get out on his own and give an option.

 

[TheLeftFist8]

Why the hell do we aim for Jacobs in a contest anyway…not a great contested mark.

If the only plan we have when in control of the ball is to kick to a contest which is 50:50 at best, then I'm not sure why we pay our coaches? So many times we don't even have the skill to kick it to the side of the contest to our advantage!

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

A few times early Smith hit up good targets from the kick outs. Took a bit of a chance with them. Worked well. Then he made that error where he played on and handballed to Douglas. One-two with Jacobs and Douglas got mown down.

After that it seemed that we played it ultra safe with nothing but unimaginative long balls.

 

[DD#23]

A few times early Smith hit up good targets from the kick outs. Took a bit of a chance with them. Worked well. Then he made that error where he played on and handballed to Douglas. One-two with Jacobs and Douglas got mown down.

After that it seemed that we played it ultra safe with nothing but unimaginative long balls.

I was furious at Jacobs for that, didn't even throw an arm out to try and look like he wanted to stop the Freo player.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

From that hotspot pic we are the most predictable which is ok if it's working - but if it's not revert to plan b or c.

Should use danger more as marking option as good overhead.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Statistically the safest spot to kick to is the other flank (except against Hawthorn). Really don't understand what we're doing.

 

[Schulzycrow]

It's all part of a plan hatched by Dasher to lull the rest of the competition into thinking we are one dimensional in our game plan when kicking out after a point...well done Dasher now for phase two...Smith and Jaensch to rocket the ball either to the middle or the left where CC, Dmac, JJ, Sloane or Danger are waiting, kick it over their heads and away we go...that's the plan right? No, just more of the same kicking to the right...............sigh.

 

[smoovy]

Why the hell do we aim for Jacobs in a contest anyway…not a great contested mark.

If the only plan we have when in control of the ball is to kick to a contest which is 50:50 at best, then I'm not sure why we pay our coaches? So many times we don't even have the skill to kick it to the side of the contest to our advantage!

Kicking to a ruckman because he is tall is one of the dumbest things footballers do. It is even more stupid when his opponent has him covered by 5-6 inches. Kick to where you have the advantage! If it means kicking it to a small there is absolutely no problem with that if he is favoured to beat his opponent!

 

[spenze]

It is even more stupid when his opponent has him covered by 5-6 inches. !

Jesus...even if Jacobs is just average that makes Sandilands an absolute beast