Kirby at it again

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Pushing his poofter loving, queuejumper MINORITY views in public again

Kirby awarded honorary degree from ANU
December 17, 2004

High Court Judge Justice Michael Kirby thanked his long-time partner Johan as he was awarded an honorary degree from the Australian National University (ANU).

The openly homosexual judge said he had received several degrees in the 35 years he and Johan have been together.

"This is the first time he has ever attended a graduation ceremony with me," he said.

"In the old days he was in the shadows. So the most important thing I can say to my fellow graduates today is that they should tell those who share this day with them how much they love them and honour them for their part in their success."

The occasion came exactly 30 years after Justice Kirby was first appointed a judge.

ANU Chancellor Professor Peter Baume conferred on him the Honorary Degree of Doctor of Laws. Justice Kirby was presented for the degree by ANU vice-chancellor Professor Ian Chubb.

In his speech to graduates, Justice Kirby praised ANU for its outstanding record in research and teaching with two recent independent evaluations placing it among the top universities of the world.
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He also referred to recent High Court decisions concerning issues of basic rights in which he was in the minority.

They included the controversial decisions allowing indefinite detention of stateless persons and state laws allowing prisoners to be kept in custody on the basis of what they might do in future.

Justice Kirby said many Australians, perhaps most, did not care.

"But for me it makes depressing reading," he said.

"Most judges of our tradition, perhaps most lawyers, like to think that in Australia we are always working towards just laws and court decisions that uphold fundamental human rights.

"Alas in many things in the law, we seem to fall short. And there is not much that the courts can do about it."

Justice Kirby urged new law graduates to renew their commitment to equal justice for all Australians.

He said that law alone was not enough and that law with justice had to be the goal of the Australian legal profession and judiciary.
 

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Is an unwritten rule in law that judges shouldn't speak out in public

Kirby is attacking the majority of his High Court colleagues this time because they didn't agreed with his minority views in recent decisions

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Graduation speech, hardly going out seeking publicity, and it was for some law degree. But your right speaking about the law, on receipt of a law degree, in a room full of law graduates in a law school is simply the wrong topic!
 

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Is an unwritten rule in law that judges shouldn't speak out in public

Kirby is attacking the majority of his High Court colleagues this time because they didn't agreed with his minority views in recent decisions

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talk about a bitter

Kirby is one of the finest jurists australia has produced, no wonder the liars, thieves and murderers in the liberal party want to silence him.
 

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This thread = tedious, predictable and just plain wrong, like every one of the last 3000 boo yah hiss kirby threads, and the 50% of Janet Albrechtsson's columns that she devotes to this subject.

Its laughable to call him one of the finest jurists Australia has ever produced- maybe if he hangs about on the bench for another 20 years or so and makes CJ. Atm, I think he's a pretty good justice- his judgements tend to be of the 'look how smart I am' variety ,but he generally takes a pretty logical and sensible approach and there's not actually anything wrong with someone dissenting a fair bit- the whole point of having multiple HC judges is so you get a range of opinion on any one topic.

As for his tendency to speak up on a range of issues, I just really don't see what the big fuss is about. The sequence is as follows-

1.) Kirby expresses himself about issues that matter to him.

2.) By virtue of the Australian media being mostly immature little so and sos who are still at the 'oh my god! he is GAY... lets all pay LOTS AND LOTS of attention to him.. he's gay! GAY! have you ever heard anything so crazy in your entire life?!?!', Kirby's views get far more currency than any other high court judge would. I mean.. he's GAY.. so anything he says must be news.

3.) Hard right, social conservatives read what he says and say 'He's GAY! Someone who is GAY said something that I disapprove of, and I also disapprove of his lifestyle..! There is a GAY man in a position of authority, what is this country coming to? How dare he express himself?! Those Femo-nazis have gone too far this time, what would Weary Dunlop think?'

4.) Hard left people who pride themselves on being incredibly tolerant and open minded say 'He's GAY! GAY! That must really get up those neo-fascist-jackboot wearing (a bit gay if u ask me) neo-con's noses, hahahah! He's GAY, and therefore is refined, intelligent, and has wonderful fashion sense like the guys on Queer Eye! Gay! GAY! He's a saint to the leftist cause, all hail the GAY!!'

And so the circle of political life continues. Personally I don't see how him being gay is at all relevant to whether you agree with him or not, but yeah, that's just me.

FWIW, I think Kirby is smart enough to know what happens when he speaks up, and he obviously doesn't mind the negative and positive attention it generates. I'm not against him speaking up, and by the same token I don't feel sorry for him- he's a public figure, he chooses to open his mouth, if he attracts flack so be it.

He's entitled to comment and generally does so through the same forums as all judges, it just so happens that the aforementioned 'heeheehee-GAY' reaction from the media means that when he says something its news, whereas whereas the rest of the high court could suggest to a conference of law students that they should all buy high powered rifles and put a bullet in their todgers and it wouldn't be reported.
 

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Freo Big Fella said:
Why not give huge publicity to Callinan's judgments?...oh that's right, they're always one line long and use the exact same 12 words.
I have had the benefit of reading the learned Chief Justice's judgement....
 

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And so the circle of political life continues. Personally I don't see how him being gay is at all relevant to whether you agree with him or not, but yeah, that's just me.

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Spot on.

If he had introduced his partner Johanne no-one would take any notice of him.
 

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thats right, its all about the homophobes being intimidated by a gay man
And homophiles thinking that him being gay automatically turns into some kind of leftist saint.

He's neither, and him liking men is about as relevant to his job as another justice liking fishing.
 

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Black Panther, you have some serious issues you must confront. What happened to free speech, thats right as long as it suits those on the right of the political spectrum.
 
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I say again - judges speaking out is morally wrong and undermines their profession

You can bet Kirby's HC colleagues are mighty ********ed off everytime he opens his mouth in public (which he shouldn't anyway), he's bascially saying they are wrong in their judgements and plays the old gay card to get sympathy yet again
 

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I say again - judges speaking out is morally wrong and undermines their profession

You can bet Kirby's HC colleagues are mighty ********ed off everytime he opens his mouth in public (which he shouldn't anyway), he's bascially saying they are wrong in their judgements and plays the old gay card to get sympathy yet again

:rolleyes: What an idiotic bunch of ridiculous assumptions.
 

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thats right, its all about the homophobes being intimidated by a gay man
that's right, i'm intimidated by homosexuals, they make me want to question my own sexuality and that makes me very uncomfortable.

and please stop calling sexual deviants 'gay' that is a pc conspiracy designed to make these perverts look all cute and cuddly, why dont you call them by their real name.........homosexual???
 
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