know your rules before you attempt to criticise !!

[chev1977]

I dont know about where dons_r_us and dan24 learned the rules!

But I was always taught that if you do not bounce the ball or attempt to dispose of the ball every 15 metres it is deemed "holding the ball"

am I correct or incorrect ?


Please read the topic "people who cry ball" for a good solid laugh !!!


and I am going to cut and paste the rule from the AFL web site another day.

I cant at the moment I am in histerick's

 

[dons_r_tops]

Chev you sucked me in straight away, no hesistation but if you really want a good laugh heres one i just got

Two blondes girls were working on a house. The one who was nailing down siding would reach into her nail pouch, pull out a nail
> and either toss it over her shoulder or nail it in. The other, figuring this was worth looking into, asked, "Why are you throwing those nails away?"

The first explained, "If I pull a nail out of my pouch and it's
pointed toward me, I throw it away 'cause it's defective. If
it's pointed toward the house, then I nail it in!"

The second blonde got completely upset and yelled, "You moron!
The nails pointed toward you aren't defective! They're for the
other side of the house!"

anyway back to the point, you yell How Long or too Far Chev not ball, cause although its called holding the ball it should be called running too far without bouncing, You Idiot

Oh Yeah and Another thing, I got another post

 

[Dan26]

Chev,

If you get tackled, you scream "BALL" (as in holding the ball. Some also scream "BALL", when a player is tackled and he drops the ball (dropping the ball, which is illegal).

But you do NOT scream it when a player runs to far. You just scream "HOW FAR ?" or "TOO FAR !"

If you scream "BALL" you will look like a fair-dinkum d*ckhead. You have no doubt been doing this, and it explains a lot about you.

I suppose you're going to claim that the whole Adelaide crows chants it, or something !

Ha ha ha ha ha.

*LMAO*

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Top spot is the hardest thing to acheive and should be recognised accordingly

 

[dons_r_tops]

thats my point exactly Dan24
Enough Said

 

[chev1977]

I got you to admit your mistake !... and where I come from I will continue to do as I do and cry BALL becuse it is holding the ball ! and that is what we say here !

The last thing I want to do is follow in a Victorian's way of saying it!

The same with the checkside punt I will continue to say that not banana kick both mean the same !!

so why abuse me and slide of the subject that was about people crying ball when a player has just touched it for .23345 of a second !!!!

 

[Dan26]

WHAT THE F*CK ???????

I just posted my last post before this one, and I "looked at the post and what did I se ?

I saw a dooted line with a "top spot" quote underneath it. I did NOT type this. How did it get there. I am serious, I have no friggin idea.

When I was on Bomber-Talk on the Essendon web-site, it used to be my signature, and it would appear after every post no matter what.

I was just typing my post here on 'bigfooty' (like I have done nearly 500 times before), and my own "signature" magically appears, and I've got no idea how.

I'm freaked out.

As i am typing this now, I have no ida whether it will appear again. This is my last sentence, so if it appears again, I don't know what's going on.

 

[dons_r_tops]

who knows but it bring up your idea again
by the way read my post in I am a hypocrite thread dan as you might be able to make sense of my Idea, Even though i cant
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Top spot Is the hardest thing to achieve and should be recognised accordingly

 

[servo]

ok I don't know whether it is called holding the ball or what. But when a player runs too far with the ball the umpires signal is to roll his hands like basketball umps call travel.

Now how far do you have to kick a ball before it can be marked? Is it 15 metres also? If so then if a player with the ball runs further than a kick would have had to travel to be marked then it is a free kick right?

The umpires continually allow players to run 30 metres or more without penalty, why is this?

And there is no rule that says you cannot drop the ball. If tackled you must dispose of the ball legally. A genuine droped ball is play on as is a ball knocked out in a tackle. This is different to a forceful delivery without using the fist of the opposite hand to that holding the ball. Therefore if you are tackled and you release the ball upwards or outwards or backwards without the fist then you have thrown the ball. The decision should be a throw. If the ball has just dropped to the ground it should be play on unless the umpire deems that you had been tackled long enough before the drop.

If you were to penalise for a genuine dropped ball then players running along on there lonesome who accidentally drop the ball would be penalised. They are not.

Dan does bluey know your signature? maybe he put it there. No one else can tamper with your post. Or perhaps you were drunk at the time and don't remember doing it.

 

[Daniel]

Dan24,

If you're telling the truth then that is friggin' weird. When I first read it I thought "oh god, now he's going to be reminding us at the end of every post".

If you really didn't do it, then my guess is that you've been hacked by someone mischievous who knows you from Bombertalk. Let us know what happens..

 

[Dan26]

Servo,

You're wrong. Sorry.

There are two different applications to the holding the ball rule.

1.) A player, if he has had a reasonable time to dsipose of the ball, must dispose of it in a legal manner, or he will be penalised for holding the ball.

This is straightforowartd. if a player runs with it and has a "prior opportunity", then once he is tackled he MUST handball correctly, or he will be penalised.

Now for the second part :

2.) What if a player DOESN'T have a prior opportunity.

In this case, if they player has had no opportunity once he is tackled, and the ball is pinned to the player, there will be ball up. If the tackle spills the ball free, it is play on.

But is also says in the rules, that a player has had NO prior opportunity, he must ATTEMPT to dispose of the ball, once given a reasonable time to do so.

So, this means that even if a plyer has had NO PRIOR OPPORTUNITY, he can still be penalised for holding the ball. You can't just get tackled and deliberately drop the ball. If you do, you get penailsed. You at least hnave to make it look like you are attempting to get rid of the ball.

If you frop the ball (deliberately) once you get tackled you will be penailsed for holding rhe ball, Servo. Whether you have had a prior opportuniuty or not is beside the point.

Kevin Bartlett used to drop the ball all the time whe he got tackled, which led to the rule change, more than 20 years ago.

The trick is to make it look as though it wasn't deliberate. Make it look like the tackle made the ball spill free. That's OK. But you have to ATTEMPT to dispose of the ball.

Dropping the ball, deliberately, is illegal, once you have been tackled.