Krakouer

[froars]

I believe the message it was sending out was that no-one is above the law and no-one shall be given special treatment because of his or her cultural background or popularuty.

Then you'd wonder why he's receiving the special treatment on this board then. Going on that logic of yours, Ox, shouldn't we just let the guy live his life in peace? He's done the time, and hefty by your own admission, so why the special treatment he's getting now? Any other person would just leave jail and get on with his life. But because he's Jimmy Krakouer, he gets the hefty sentence and little chance to redeem himself, because there will be always people like Bentleigh

 

[oxx]

Then you'd wonder why he's receiving the special treatment on this board then. Going on that logic of yours, Ox, shouldn't we just let the guy live his life in peace? He's done the time, and hefty by your own admission, so why the special treatment he's getting now? Any other person would just leave jail and get on with his life. But because he's Jimmy Krakouer, he gets the hefty sentence and little chance to redeem himself, because there will be always people like Bentleigh

Yes Froars,he should be allowed to.


Poor Andrew,being to subjected to this type of comparison.

 

[astro_toby]

Okay,here we go.


Fuhk the abbos and fuhk anyone who chooses to suck on pizs and wallow in self pity,black,brown,yellow or white

What happened has happened and the constant harping fom dix like michael long only add fuel to the fire.

Land ?
WTF do u want that for,you own the Norhtern states and are permitted to live on tribal laws within your own society?
Not a bad fuhken achievement.
Allowed to spear a guy if u decide he's a dog.
Add to that 600 $ a fortnight for being aboriginal and you have a recipe for disaster.

We approve of this charity like response to a lethal siuation and still question the predicament and search hi and low for reasons why the top end are unable to break the cycle as it were.
Any wonder,we're feeding the demon.

Cuhnts like John nodik Howard remain at the forefront of this cultural war and use it to their full advantage choosing to address certain issues when beneficial to their party but more often sweeping it under the rug


I dont see old man krackers case as one to be exposing racial prejudice in our judicial system.
Truth be known,he was given a hefty sentence because of his public profile,
not because he's black.

I believe the message it was sending out was that no-one is above the law and no-one shall be given special treatment because of his or her cultural background or popularuty.

All of u living here in this country are residing as a result of white mans callous invasion of these native shores and let there be no false pretenses here,we are all wrong,so don't give me your siht about how badly the indigenous folk are done by.

If it kills you that badly go and live in fuhken Sweden OR go to Darwin and do volunteer work for the needy,If not,you're part of the problem

What a ********ing stupid post - are you that shallow

Do you realize we took their land OFF them??

We introduced them to alchol BEFORE we even tryed to educate them??

How on earth can there be so many backwards people out there style - im not saying YOU have to be responsible for whats happened to them - but our government MUST - as even though it may not have been directly Johnnys fault for what happened to them to get to this stage - OUR government and THEIR government are the only ppl who can do something to help

 

[Thrice3]

What do you suggest the do to help? If any help was handed out to them they would dismiss it, no doubt. If they gave them money, they would probably spend it on booze. Trying to help them is a dead end ticket to no where, they are to far gone.
And do not say 'WE" stole their land because that is entirely untrue, were any of us personally on the Endevaour with Captain Cook? We realize the settlers of this country stole there land, so why should you make it out as if we should be blamed for their actions? Aboriginals crying about it now is not going to give them back their country, im sure most aboriginals would prefer this lifestyle with a European influence to living primitively in the bush. The same with any African-American, they would prefer to live in America then Africa.

 

[Bentleigh]

What a ********ing stupid post - are you that shallow

Do you realize we took their land OFF them??

We introduced them to alchol BEFORE we even tryed to educate them??

How on earth can there be so many backwards people out there style - im not saying YOU have to be responsible for whats happened to them - but our government MUST - as even though it may not have been directly Johnnys fault for what happened to them to get to this stage - OUR government and THEIR government are the only ppl who can do something to help

Na, we shouldnt say sorry champ.

 

[Thrice3]

Na, we shouldnt say sorry champ.

I totally agree. Im not going to apologize or have sympathy for something I have no relation to.

 

[astro_toby]

What do you suggest the do to help? If any help was handed out to them they would dismiss it, no doubt. If they gave them money, they would probably spend it on booze. Trying to help them is a dead end ticket to no where, they are to far gone.
And do not say 'WE" stole their land because that is entirely untrue, were any of us personally on the Endevaour with Captain Cook? We realize the settlers of this country stole there land, so why should you make it out as if we should be blamed for their actions? Aboriginals crying about it now is not going to give them back their country, im sure most aboriginals would prefer this lifestyle with a European influence to living primitively in the bush. The same with any African-American, they would prefer to live in America then Africa.

well, thats debatable - they were taken their in chains - i'm pretty sure at the time they wouldnt have prefered it, fool

 

[astro_toby]

I totally agree. Im not going to apologize or have sympathy for something I have no relation to.

sorry i thought you were Australian - unless your saying you have no relation to australias past

 

[Thrice3]

Well they would prefer it now.
Im sick of people like you who think we are in some way indebted to the aboriginals, or have some obligation to cut them some slack until the can overcome the notion that we stole there land.
I am Australian, myself and my families past have no relation to the idea that we stole there land as the immigrated to Australia 4 generations ago, and stuck soley to Melbourne; a place scarecly inhabited by aboriginals.

 

[froars]

What do you suggest the do to help? If any help was handed out to them they would dismiss it, no doubt. If they gave them money, they would probably spend it on booze. Trying to help them is a dead end ticket to no where, they are to far gone.
And do not say 'WE" stole their land because that is entirely untrue, were any of us personally on the Endevaour with Captain Cook? We realize the settlers of this country stole there land, so why should you make it out as if we should be blamed for their actions? Aboriginals crying about it now is not going to give them back their country, im sure most aboriginals would prefer this lifestyle with a European influence to living primitively in the bush. The same with any African-American, they would prefer to live in America then Africa.

What are you talking about hand outs and giving them money? They are entitled to the same levels of education, health provision as we take for granted. They're not asking for handouts, just equality in the services we obviously take for granted.

 

[Bentleigh]

well, thats debatable

I beleive its fact about Aboriginals spending large % of there goverment money on petrol, grog, smokes etc.

Part of the social problems you speak about.

The average black person in Australia would rather live in the modern life style than bush.

 

[Thrice3]

THEY HAVE THOSE SERVICES MADE AVAILABLE TO THEM! They choose not to embrace them, that is a fact.

 

[Bentleigh]

What are you talking about hand outs and giving them money? They are entitled to the same levels of education, health provision as we take for granted. They're not asking for handouts, just equality in the services we obviously take for granted.

Aboriginals gets money (among housing, cars) simply due to aboriginal. They also recive far cheaper education, healt etc.

They do ask for handouts. Its well known around Lakes Entrance to stay out of town the Aborginal settle at Lake Eye takes there hand outs.

 

[astro_toby]

I beleive its fact about Aboriginals spending large % of there goverment money on petrol, grog, smokes etc.

Part of the social problems you speak about.

The average black person in Australia would rather live in the modern life style than bush.

They are addicted to it idiot- its a drug - The whites gave them alcohal, which was our way of invading them without culling them. Whites introduced them to the drug - and now it is part of their upbringing

 

[Thrice3]

White poeple have alcohol too, do these white poor people struggling use this as an excuse to not get their act together?
Did white people force it down the throat of the aboriginies, no, they brought it upon themselves by using it excessively.

 

[froars]

THEY HAVE THOSE SERVICES MADE AVAILABLE TO THEM! They choose not to embrace them, that is a fact.

Show me the evidence of that and i'll agree with you. You are talking thru your arse Caster. The social problems of drinking were caused by us, because they saw those people as easy targets. Get them hooked and you have a guaranteed market. You take away that market and you might see dramatic improvements in alcoholism, family breakdown, health problems, employment, self-pride etc, etc, etc. The list is endless on how we have neglected and abused these people.

 

[astro_toby]

Aboriginals gets money (among housing, cars) simply due to aboriginal. They also recive far cheaper education, healt etc.

They do ask for handouts. Its well known around Lakes Entrance to stay out of town the Aborginal settle at Lake Eye takes there hand outs.

money doesnt fix problems. its an easy answer. education is the answer

 

[Thrice3]

Show me the evidence of that and i'll agree with you. You are talking thru your arse Caster. The social problems of drinking were caused by us, because they saw those people as easy targets. Get them hooked and you have a guaranteed market. You take away that market and you might see dramatic improvements in alcoholism, family breakdown, health problems, employment, self-pride etc, etc, etc. The list is endless on how we have neglected and abused these people.

Ive seen documentaries on social problems in Darwin, you may think their neglected by the government, I dont. I think you will find a fair bit of the country's revenue goes toward aid for these people who choose not to use it correctly.

 

[astro_toby]

Ive seen documentaries on social problems in Darwin, you may think their neglected by the government, I dont. I think you will find a fair bit of the country's revenue goes toward aid for these people who choose not to use it correctly.

$$$ does not fix their problems - education doe. how do you expect money to help them?

 

[Thrice3]

I clearly said money toward aid. I think education falls under the aid catergory. Analyze posts with more thought Astro Toby. I think barracking for two teams has made you incapable of doing so.

 

[Infamy]

I can't believe some of the things I'm reading here
I'm absolutely disgusted and I'm usually pretty difficult to unsettle

Bentleigh, oxx and caster, you make me sick
The world will be a better place when people with your mentality, or lack thereof, are no longer a part of this country

 

[Bentleigh]

I can't believe some of the things I'm reading here
I'm absolutely disgusted and I'm usually pretty difficult to unsettle

Bentleigh, oxx and caster, you make me sick
The world will be a better place when people with your mentality, or lack thereof, are no longer a part of this country

Tissue?

 

[Thrice3]

I can't believe some of the things I'm reading here
I'm absolutely disgusted and I'm usually pretty difficult to unsettle

Bentleigh, oxx and caster, you make me sick
The world will be a better place when people with your mentality, or lack thereof, are no longer a part of this country

hahahahah im actually laughing at that.
You be disgusted, you can let the aboriginals run over you with your pity whilst I stay focussed and not swallowing any of their rubbish they try to serve up to make us feel bad or to believe there hard do by in this era.
I will close with this very inspiring picture as there will never be a victor on this matter.

 

[Infamy]

Bentleigh - I'm sure you don't "think" you're racist, nor a homophobe, but you ARE. It may take you a few years to mature and look back on the way you were as a stupid kid, but I only hope that it does actually click one day.
I admit that many years ago when I didn't know any better I had some similar beliefs to what are being voiced here, but that was when I was in primary school and I had the excuse of not knowing any better.
Many of the people posting on this forum may well still be in primary school, hell most of them spell like it, but for someone who's apparently in uni, you should know better.

 

[Bentleigh]

Bentleigh - I'm sure you don't "think" you're racist, nor a homophobe, but you ARE. It may take you a few years to mature and look back on the way you were as a stupid kid, but I only hope that it does actually click one day.
I admit that many years ago when I didn't know any better I had some similar beliefs to what are being voiced here, but that was when I was in primary school and I had the excuse of not knowing any better.
Many of the people posting on this forum may well still be in primary school, hell most of them spell like it, but for someone who's apparently in uni, you should know better.

You may 'think' Im racist. That doesnt make it so son.

Because I share different beleives to the Aboriginal situation from your own makes me a racist?

Tug harder.