News Kreuz appointed Ruck Coach

[HARKER]

Simpson and Kreuzer are statistically some of the biggest losers in afl history. We need the young players learning from and emulating WINNERS. This is a big mistake by the club at such a critical stage of development.

Losers in a team sport is not the same as being a loser in life. Kreuzer is not a loser.
He'd be the same person had he played under Clarkson. He is not defined by the team he played for. How is this hard to understand?

 

[T2B_]

Simpson and Kreuzer are statistically some of the biggest losers in afl history. We need the young players learning from and emulating WINNERS. This is a big mistake by the club at such a critical stage of development.

Cannot condemn this post enough, and quite frankly won't be surprised if it ends up one of the most Disliked posts on the board.

The two players mentioned are anything but losers. Might not have had much team success, but those two guys were always the ones you could count on to pour in 120%; the ones that would will themselves to they had nothing left in the tank.

 

[Accidental genius]

I don’t see an issue with simmo and Kruezer appointments. Both legends of the club and in particular both have great work ethic and are selfless. Why wouldn’t you want them on your team.

 

[Ace It Up]

Don't worry about whether he was elite tap ruck or not. He mightn't have always been the best tap ruck but it's easy to forget on his day he could have some devastating taps to advantage, a game against Collingwood comes to mind years back where he gave our mids an armchair ride and was looking to hit his peak form... and then of course got injured again, story of his career.

Still that's not even really the point. My old man successfully coached a grammar school swimming team decades back... and guess what, the guy himself can't actually swim!
In a similar vein the likes of Clarkson, Malthouse etc weren't exactly elite football players.

Sometimes coaching, knowledge etc and gameday ability/application are worlds apart. Kreuze might end up the best ruck coach we've had in ages for all we know.

Give him a chance, but also, it is just so fantastic to see him still sticking around in Navy Blue in some capacity. Love ya Tractor.

Kreuze was not the biggest and best ruckman running around. There were certain ruck skills/arts that he didn't execute as well as others. I believe he understood and acknowledged that. So he always gave 100% and made up for it in other ways - his follow up work and attack on the ball(a fourth midfielder someone labelled him). Sometimes coaching, knowledge etc and gameday ability/application are worlds apart. My take on Kreuze's appointment is that he sees in our current ruck stocks the ability and potential to be coached how to implement and execute the skills/arts that were "seen to be lacking" in his game. I like his appointment.

 

[Blue and Blue]

Simpson and Kreuzer are statistically some of the biggest losers in afl history. We need the young players learning from and emulating WINNERS. This is a big mistake by the club at such a critical stage of development.

You might want to rethink that. I would say there were plenty of games where Simmo and Kreuze made us winners when we werent really good enough. I would also say that if Kreuze hadn't been so unlucky with injuries he would statistically be rated one of the greats. And with a heart so big he dragged us back into games with his following abilty. If Kreuze had had a full uninterrupted career we might already have No 17 in the trophy cabinet.

 

[Sin City]

Simpson and Kreuzer are statistically some of the biggest losers in afl history. We need the young players learning from and emulating WINNERS. This is a big mistake by the club at such a critical stage of development.

So TDK and Pittonet would be better off learning from Brent Renouf

Brent Renouf

Age

35

Ht

200cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.5

2star

K

2.9

1star

HB

5.6

4star

CL

1.9

4star

HO

17.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

8.2

2star

K

2.0

1star

HB

6.2

4star

HO

11.6

5star

because his teammates won him a flag than Kreuzer who monstered his opponents for a decade through work rate, professionalism and repeat efforts. I think I’ll back the club on this one.

 

[The Dominator7]

FMD we’re talking about a ruck coach....a freaking ruck coach...luminaries like Crackers Keenan, Sam Newman and Damien Monkhorst.

Kruz likely not full time or highly paid, may even be on the cheap to help the club out with soft cap and spending elsewhere.

He was basically ruck coach this year once Covid hit, and IMO we got a lot more out of TDK and Pitto than I expected.

Yeah if we made him an assistant straight off the bat I’d be throwing daggers, plus (like others have mentioned) I’d prefer players to go to another club and at least learn how they do things....but ruck coach....ppplease

 

[MileHigh]

A. M. A. Z. I. N. G.

This just in... Tom "The King" De Koning now pulling the strings at Ikon. All hail the king!

 

[katmanblue]

Beautifully said and hard to avoid a tautology here. But I'm sure you understand the nepotistic connotation and the possible implications on our club of continuing to 'look after the old boys'.

Um, yeah.

 

[katmanblue]

Who was this years ruck guy, Capuano??

Sacked. Covid. Think it was Hamish Macintosh.

 

[katmanblue]

So if I'm reading it correctly no-one who has never coached before should be able to coach because they have shown no success at something that they have never done before?

Be interested to have someone name who they consider to be the best ruck coaches going round off the top of their heads. Not to many oll off the tongue.

Great appointment. The bloke is well respected by those he will be coaching and appears to be keen to embrace and develop the role.

You reckon there would be ANY value in going to a different club to the one you've spent 12-13 years at? 10 of which have been holding up the ladder.

Perhaps go and find a different person how to do things and then come back to the club in a few years with something to add?

Or would the club and Kreuzer be better off with just more of the same.

 

[Stamos]

You reckon there would be ANY value in going to a different club to the one you've spent 12-13 years at? 10 of which have been holding up the ladder.

Perhaps go and find a different person how to do things and then come back to the club in a few years with something to add?

Or would the club and Kreuzer be better off with just more of the same.

If you have the aim to be a career coach, and a long term goal of being the head coach, or at least senior assistant then there would definitely be a benefit to going to another club.

But a ruck coach? I just don't see how it matters at all.

Also, I think people get far too caught up in 'best'. A good fit can be more beneficial. Kreuzer already has a good relationship with TDK and Pitto. Continuing that relationship might well be better for their development than finding the 'best' ruck coach.

 

[Metalcrusher]

If you have the aim to be a career coach, and a long term goal of being the head coach, or at least senior assistant then there would definitely be a benefit to going to another club.

But a ruck coach? I just don't see how it matters at all.

Also, I think people get far too caught up in 'best'. A good fit can be more beneficial. Kreuzer already has a good relationship with TDK and Pitto. Continuing that relationship might well be better for their development than finding the 'best' ruck coach.

Krooz could defo ruck, I don't see what the issue is???

 

[gbatman]

Kreuzer was an elite competitor and if he can teach and encourage that then he's going to do a good job in this role.

 

[Dadda Dave]

just a question, has kreuz ruck-coached a single day yet?

Are you asking for a friend ?

 

[AB_Blue]

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[Metalcrusher]

Simpson and Kreuzer are statistically some of the biggest losers in afl history. We need the young players learning from and emulating WINNERS. This is a big mistake by the club at such a critical stage of development.

Wow, way to make a statement. This is awkward ......

 

[GoBlues!]

Didn’t all of Buckley, Voss, Hird take on a senior role without any experience?

We’re not even talking about a line coach here.

There is a massive difference.

Agree we’re talking about a specialist ruck role a specific part of the game - talk of the need to get an outsiders view of a specialist role is ridiculous. We tried that with McIntosh and Capuano and wow what a difference that made...

Analogies with senior coaching roles even more ridiculous.

 

[iAsbestos]

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