Kreuzer development, serious question?

The Grover · Jun 16, 2012

TheTrueBlue said:
Kreuzer is coming along nicely. We really missed him last year, but Warnock is a darn good ruckman, not quite as mobile as Kruezer...

Warnock is NOT a darn good ruckmen, all he is is a bean pole.

makes me sick watching Jacobs play at Adelaide.

T2B_ · Jun 17, 2012

I love Warnock's tap ability, I just wish he'd get stronger in the marking contests.

Blue Flame · Jun 17, 2012

Like so many on our list, Warnock requires a lot of bulk and muscle, although I suspect he may be one that doesn't bulk up easily.
Kreuzer needs a bit more strength, but mostly needs to get his knee right. There are little positioning things for him to learn, but it will be a lot easier if he isn't injured. Hopefully we are not running him into the ground now, it is a worrying thought.
Hampson is physically the complete article, but needs to learn a lot more.

Omega Blue · Jun 17, 2012

i dont think our ruckmen need to look like tarzan to play well. they do need fitness, core body strength and confidence.
i think most ppls strength issues can be fixed with a greater core strength.

Blue Flame · Jun 17, 2012

True.
But it would nice to see someone on Warnock's size have the build to put some fear into the opposition.

Omega Blue · Jun 17, 2012

Blue Flame said:
True.
But it would nice to see someone on Warnock's size have the build to put some fear into the opposition.

good point i didnt consider the intimidation factor, it definately has merit i think theres a handful of players in the league that don't get nervous when big sandilands charges at them, luckly we have two.

mediumsizered · Jun 17, 2012

People need to be a little bit patient with Kreuzer. It should be remembered that an ACL is considered a 2 year injury these days. The last 2 games have shown that Kreuzer is starting to get some confidence back. I suspect he is going to finish the year quite strongly.

Omega Blue · Jun 17, 2012

mediumsizered said:
People need to be a little bit patient with Kreuzer. It should be remembered that an ACL is considered a 2 year injury these days. The last 2 games have shown that Kreuzer is starting to get some confidence back. I suspect he is going to finish the year quite strongly.

agreed, 1 year to be able to play and 2 year to be back where you were before injury.
thats why it sucks as an injury so much.

Big Red is back · Jun 19, 2012

mediumsizered said:
People need to be a little bit patient with Kreuzer. It should be remembered that an ACL is considered a 2 year injury these days. The last 2 games have shown that Kreuzer is starting to get some confidence back. I suspect he is going to finish the year quite strongly.

The bigger issue would appear that his knee is actually stuffed.

Just Kreuzing · Jun 19, 2012

Big Red is back said:
The bigger issue would appear that his knee is actually stuffed.

Well if it isn't then they are going the right way about stuffing it if he is playing on it whilst not being 100%.

Big Red is back · Jun 20, 2012

Just Kreuzing said:
Well if it isn't then they are going the right way about stuffing it if he is playing on it whilst not being 100%.

Absolutely... pop him on ice for the rest of the year if need be. For godsake lets not destroy him.

Carlton_Blues · Jun 21, 2012

Big Red is back said:
Absolutely... pop him on ice for the rest of the year if need be. For godsake lets not destroy him.

I doubt we'd risk playing him if there was any chance of serious long term injury to our no. 1 pick. This is elite level footy with highly trained & experienced medicos making the decisions. IMO Kreuzer needs time to build full confidence, and form will follow.

Big Red is back · Jun 23, 2012

Carlton_Blues said:
I doubt we'd risk playing him if there was any chance of serious long term injury to our no. 1 pick. This is elite level footy with highly trained & experienced medicos making the decisions. IMO Kreuzer needs time to build full confidence, and form will follow.

Hope your right but clubs often do strange things when desperate.

Big Red is back · Jun 29, 2012

Three disposals vs hale and roughed to half time. Lift for Christ sake! Don't try just do, come on big fella do something we need you now!

Magnificence · Jun 30, 2012

Big Red is back said:
Three disposals vs hale and roughed to half time. Lift for Christ sake! Don't try just do, come on big fella do something we need you now!

His form is embarrassing now he simply must be dropped

Magnificence · Jun 30, 2012

Big Red is back said:
The bigger issue would appear that his knee is actually stuffed.

Brib doctor Peter larkins mentioned he said given his hip issues before he was drafted it was unlikey he would be a 200 game player.

CarltonKid07 · Jun 30, 2012

Rest him for the rest of the year in the VFL until he starts moving like a living organism.

AB_Blue · Jun 30, 2012

Compared to rounds 1 to 3 he is a shadow and must be carrying significant injuries. Reality and intelligence warrants him to get his body right for 2013, (along with Judd who has a back injury ATM.) however the MC is clinging to a finals berth so he will continue to play a s hybrid forward ruck/ rover until he blows out again

Big Sim · Jul 2, 2012

If he is injured he shouldn't be playing. If he is not injured then he should be playing VFL. Is the worst of our three big men at the moment and one needs to go.

Mr.X · Jul 3, 2012

He needs to settle in a spot, and that spot is as a ruckman. He's not a tall forward.

Kreuzer needs to be left in the ruck, and a tall forward found asap.

Get rid of Warnock and start shopping Hampson - 3 ruckman is too top heavy

I bleed Blue · Jul 3, 2012

Mr.X said:
Get rid of Warnock and start shopping Hampson - 3 ruckman is too top heavy

Yeah, 1 ruckman at the club is a much better idea.

Blue since 72 · Jul 3, 2012

Mr.X said:
He needs to settle in a spot, and that spot is as a ruckman. He's not a tall forward.

Kreuzer needs to be left in the ruck, and a tall forward found asap.

Get rid of Warnock and start shopping Hampson - 3 ruckman is too top heavy

I wouldn't be shopping anyone just yet.

If Kruezer is as injured as the rumour mill suggests he shouldn't be playing at all until his body is right. He's providing bugger all at the moment anyway so get him out of the side and fixed up.

206 can stay in the middle and the Hammer should be played at FF and relieving ruck only.

If we could actually get a KF on the park to help Hammer out we would see an instant improvement in the functionality of our forward line.

Sector 7G · Jul 3, 2012

I bleed Blue said:
Yeah, 1 ruckman at the club is a much better idea.

Especially one with a suspect knee and a suspect hip.

gbatman · Jul 3, 2012

I wish Kreuzer, or any of our tall players knew how to use their body as well as Fev still does. Kreuzer especially.

Silvagnis · Jul 7, 2012

Sakc Doc Larkins.

The Tractor just needed a good run on the freeway by avoiding the peak hour in our forwardline.

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