Kurt Tippett to the Swans? **UPDATE: Tippett requests trade to Sydney***

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Not actually what I was implying, but whatever. Was just a reminder that he gave us two-thirds of five-eighths of bugger all in that game, so any inference to Sydney beating Adelaide even in spite of Tippett playing for us, and not you, means, well, not much at all really.

If my observation has unearthed any deep seated doubt or guilt you feel about him deliberately playing poorly to favour his future club, that has nothing to do with me.
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I'd be more concerned with how Tex Walker missed so many set shots that day and how wasteful their midfield was when they were going inside 50, before even concerning themselves over the effort of Tippett that day.

But hey this is Crows fans we are talking about, nothing is THEIR fault
I started a thread about it. The guy had been concussed and subbed in 3 games over about 5 weeks. He then missed a few through recovery. I posed the question as to whether we were expecting peak performance too soon. Wasn't the thread I thought it would be leading into a prelim. Oh well.
 

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One thing i don't really get is the amount of s*** the Adelaide fans are hanging on Jesse White. The guy is fine. Not quite best 22 but not very far off. The Crow board are acting as if offering Jesse + 23 is somehow WORSE than 23 alone.

In a way i'm really looking forward to the inevitable Tex Walker suspension or injury, and they find their two big 2012 forwards gone. I think it'll be right about then they will start wishing they had a ruck/forward with a little experience to fall back on.
 

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Not actually what I was implying, but whatever. Was just a reminder that he gave us two-thirds of five-eighths of bugger all in that game, so any inference to Sydney beating Adelaide even in spite of Tippett playing for us, and not you, means, well, not much at all really.

If my observation has unearthed any deep seated doubt or guilt you feel about him deliberately playing poorly to favour his future club, that has nothing to do with me.
Wtf... the new Sydney conspiracy theory is that we actively recruit players who show nothing or "throw" games to curry favour at the trade table? Is radioactive waste still dribbling into Adelaide s water supply from those nuclear tests in the 50's or something?

Barry Hall kicked 4 goals on us in his last game as a Saint. It was his job interview. Lockett just about averaged 8 goals a game on us before we recruited him...it's performance that gets clubs knocking on the door, not corruption...unless you're associated with the crows of course. :D
 

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He is a giant i dont think Sheedy cares one bit he doesn't wanna be there he will just be traded at the end of 2013 and they get another Draft pick.

Well played Sheedy.

Well played.
I keep hearing this quote "they can just trade him at the end of the year."

That must be the biggest load of rubbish I have heard. Sheedy will take him if he has a use for him and he thinks he is a good fit. Not to trade him next year.

Think of this possibility. GWS take him for 4 years at 1m a year. At the end of the first year Tippett has been in poor form and shown signs of not wanting to be there. So Sheeds says let's trade him. The question is to who. There would only be 3 teams that tippett would be likely to agree to go to, swans, lions, GC.

So now how much will they pay for an under performing KPF. Lions and GC only offered around 750 to 800 this year. What would that be after a bad year. Maybe 500. That would leave GWS to pick up the tab for 3 years. 1.5 million. All to get a high draft pick. They have had 20 something 1st round picks so far and are likely to have pick 1 next year anyway.

What they need is footballers who want to be there and are performing. Not more draft picks. Sheeds will know this so as I said the decision will be on is he a good fit or not.

To say the have nothing to loose is way off the mark.
 

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I keep hearing this quote "they can just trade him at the end of the year."

That must be the biggest load of rubbish I have heard. Sheedy will take him if he has a use for him and he thinks he is a good fit. Not to trade him next year.

Think of this possibility. GWS take him for 4 years at 1m a year. At the end of the first year Tippett has been in poor form and shown signs of not wanting to be there. So Sheeds says let's trade him. The question is to who. There would only be 3 teams that tippett would be likely to agree to go to, swans, lions, GC.

So now how much will they pay for an under performing KPF. Lions and GC only offered around 750 to 800 this year. What would that be after a bad year. Maybe 500. That would leave GWS to pick up the tab for 3 years. 1.5 million. All to get a high draft pick. They have had 20 something 1st round picks so far and are likely to have pick 1 next year anyway.

What they need is footballers who want to be there and are performing. Not more draft picks. Sheeds will know this so as I said the decision will be on is he a good fit or not.

To say the have nothing to loose is way off the mark.
You are right mate my post is probably way off :)
 

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I keep hearing this quote "they can just trade him at the end of the year."

That must be the biggest load of rubbish I have heard. Sheedy will take him if he has a use for him and he thinks he is a good fit. Not to trade him next year.

Think of this possibility. GWS take him for 4 years at 1m a year. At the end of the first year Tippett has been in poor form and shown signs of not wanting to be there. So Sheeds says let's trade him. The question is to who. There would only be 3 teams that tippett would be likely to agree to go to, swans, lions, GC.

So now how much will they pay for an under performing KPF. Lions and GC only offered around 750 to 800 this year. What would that be after a bad year. Maybe 500. That would leave GWS to pick up the tab for 3 years. 1.5 million. All to get a high draft pick. They have had 20 something 1st round picks so far and are likely to have pick 1 next year anyway.

What they need is footballers who want to be there and are performing. Not more draft picks. Sheeds will know this so as I said the decision will be on is he a good fit or not.

To say the have nothing to loose is way off the mark.
If you find it hard to believe that Tippett deliberately underperformed in the final against you, how do you then justify thinking he would throw a season.

If he did that he would only be damaging himself and all the consequences you have outlined would only detrimental to him getting away from GWS. If he decided in his own mind he was leaving after one year he would be professional, knuckle down, have the best year he can and use that to pave the way out.

IMO Sheedy has played this perfectly. To go public with the interest and make it a continuing news story puts massive pressure on Tippett. If he starts trying to put GWS off the media are going to be all over him and the AFL will be closely following. He cannot afford another slip up. Can you just see Sheedy's reaction if Tippett refuses to meet with them.....press conference!!!!

Im not convinced GWS will take him, but you count on it being their decision and not Tippetts
 

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Sheedy has zero control of the GWS list management
SOS and Gubby Allan have all control and final say on list management matters
So it doesn't matter what Sheedy says and wants
This is further highlighted by the fact the Leon Cameron is going to be the coach in 2014
GWS are not going to ruin their list management to supposedly get one over Sydney (what Sheedy might want)
Obliviously if SOS and Gubby also want him and think they can do so without potentially loosing alot of their young guns come 2015-16 then Tippett will be at GWS

I for one don't actually give a sh*t if he makes it to swans or not
If he makes it then great
If not then o well
 

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One thing i don't really get is the amount of s*** the Adelaide fans are hanging on Jesse White. The guy is fine. Not quite best 22 but not very far off. The Crow board are acting as if offering Jesse + 23 is somehow WORSE than 23 alone.
The Crows would have taken pick 22 alone, but Sydney demanded that the Crows MUST also take White. So not only were Sydney trying to get a top level player for a shit pick but they were also demanding the Crows take one of their highly paid spuds so they could fit Tippett into their salery cap better.
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In a way i'm really looking forward to the inevitable Tex Walker suspension or injury, and they find their two big 2012 forwards gone. I think it'll be right about then they will start wishing they had a ruck/forward with a little experience to fall back on.
In reality you just wish you had a forward who was half as good as Walker.
 

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If you find it hard to believe that Tippett deliberately underperformed in the final against you, how do you then justify thinking he would throw a season.

If he did that he would only be damaging himself and all the consequences you have outlined would only detrimental to him getting away from GWS. If he decided in his own mind he was leaving after one year he would be professional, knuckle down, have the best year he can and use that to pave the way out.

IMO Sheedy has played this perfectly. To go public with the interest and make it a continuing news story puts massive pressure on Tippett. If he starts trying to put GWS off the media are going to be all over him and the AFL will be closely following. He cannot afford another slip up. Can you just see Sheedy's reaction if Tippett refuses to meet with them.....press conference!!!!

Im not convinced GWS will take him, but you count on it being their decision and not Tippetts
I never said he would throw a season. If someone dosn't want to be somewhere it usually shows in there performance. At afl level you only need to be 5% off and it shows. It would depend on Tippett and his mindset.

I never suggested that this is a likely outcome only that it was a possibility. People are saying there is nothing to loose for gws. I was trying to show that like all things in life there are 2 sides. And there is a possible down side here as well.

I agree that it will be GWS's decision. But they will make it based on the question - can we get the best out of Tippett.

You see I don't think he is worth a million even when he is on his game. So if GWS were to pay that then they would want to be very sure that he was going to be in the right head space.

For what it is worth. I will be very happy if they take him. I personally think he is overpriced. And from what I have read in the last few days I also think the afl will block his passage to the swans.
 

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Of all the rubbish on this thread, the story of Tippett deliberately playing poor when Adelaide played the Swans in the final is the most ridiculas thing I have heard for some time. Adelaide lost get over it, dear me this is just like the school yard with no semblence of logic at all. Sydney won the 2012 Premiership that is what mattered to us as far as Adelaide supporters are concerned the term "grasping at straws" is relevant.
Just to be clear, I was not in any way suggesting Kurt sabotaged the game against the Swans - seriously, who could / would honestly think that would happen. But nor was I the one that brought it up! I was simply suggesting that in the context of the comment that Sydney beat us even though Kurt was playing for us, and not the Swans, that meant nothing because he spudded it up big time in that game. He may as well have not been playing.

You'll struggle to find too many people on either side of the fence who would argue that the Swannies were anything but the clear and deserved winners on that day.
 

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In reality you just wish you had a forward who was half as good as Walker.
Yes, Walker is very good. He was even better when it was him and Tippett. Walker and Tippett was a scary combination. Walker and whoever else you have... not so scary.

And my point wasn't that Walker isn't good, he certainly is. But he seems to have an anger management issue, and he seems pretty likely to get suspended in any given season (will probalby end up belting someone like Ballantyne). So my point was someone like Jesse would be pretty useful if you are without both Tippett and Walker for some time next year.
 

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In reality you just wish you had a forward who was half as good as Walker.
Two things:
1. Our club won the flag a few weeks ago. We don't really wish we had anyone ese except for the great bunch of blokes who delivered in spades.
2. If you asked the most enlightened decision-makers from each club to opt for Sam Reid or Taylor Walker for the next 4-5 years, it would be a very close call. "Half as good" is a ridiculous statement.
 

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Yes, Walker is very good. He was even better when it was him and Tippett. Walker and Tippett was a scary combination. Walker and whoever else you have... not so scary.

And my point wasn't that Walker isn't good, he certainly is. But he seems to have an anger management issue, and he seems pretty likely to get suspended in any given season (will probalby end up belting someone like Ballantyne). So my point was someone like Jesse would be pretty useful if you are without both Tippett and Walker for some time next year.
If he beats up Ballantyne he will proberbly be given a pat on the back from the mrp and everyone else in the afl system.
We don't have a need for Jesse. We have Mckernan and Jenkins who are well ahead of White in terms of ability and form. We don't need to take him and his salery to help Sydney get Tippett. If Sydney had of offered a half decent trade he would he putting his new Sydney uniform on right now. Sydney also has to take responsibility for that.
And Tippett is a good player, infact one of the best big men in the game today. He may not be a great person and is only interested in the dollar but you cannot deny his ability. He will be a loss to us. But we have a very talented list and we will still be in the finals for a long time yet.
However, Walker is the superior forward out of the two.
 

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In reality you just wish you had a forward who was half as good as Walker.
The key to trolling is to come up with something that makes people think. If I said Walker was a spud, that's not a troll, that's ******ed. But if I say it looks like we'll target Walker next season if we don't get Tippett and, thanks to your culture, there's a chance he'll be thinking about moving on, then that would be a (good) troll attempt.

Now, have another go and this time put some effort in.
 
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