Kurt Tippett to the Swans? **UPDATE: Tippett requests trade to Sydney***

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I know, I know.

It's easy to get sucked into this shit especially since the Adelaide board think this FAITH guy is basically the assistant to David Noble and now you got Collingwood posters saying they've heard the same thing (most likely just repeating what FAITH posted).
To be fair, FAITH has earned his rep for having good info. Last trade period, he told us we were getting Crouch + Luke Brown, Josh Jenkins, Lewis Johnston, and Tom Lynch well before the trades became public. He obviously knows somebody who has something to do with list management at the club. He didn't say Reid to Collingwood is a certainty or anything like that, he just said according to his source, Collingwood will be trying, but it will be very difficult. As for suggestions that he'd also need sources inside Collingwood and Sydney, I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility to suggest that these guys might actually talk to people in similar positions at other clubs during trade week.
 

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To be fair, FAITH has earned his rep for having good info. Last trade period, he told us we were getting Crouch + Luke Brown, Josh Jenkins, Lewis Johnston, and Tom Lynch well before the trades became public. He obviously knows somebody who has something to do with list management at the club. He didn't say Reid to Collingwood is a certainty or anything like that, he just said according to his source, Collingwood will be trying, but it will be very difficult. As for suggestions that he'd also need sources inside Collingwood and Sydney, I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility to suggest that these guys might actually talk to people in similar positions at other clubs during trade week.
Lewis Johnston was public information at the Swans and Tom Lynch had spilled his guts to his old private school buddies who were posting on here and ringing radio stations wit the gossip... no coups there. The others I know little about and this was not to diss FAITH but to point out the world knew the last two before.
 

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What the flying f***! Someone said jetta was spotted in adelaide today?!?!?! If we f****** trade jetta for that overrated concussed hack in tippett i will not be renewing my 10 year membership.
Surely he's visiting his sick aunty or something? Seriously, noone anywhere would believe that he would be willingly offered for trade.
Likewise, the same for Reid. IF, there is anything at all in this rumour, surely it is being driven by Reid for whatever reason (or even Collingwood), but surely not Sydney. There is definitely rumour other than on the Adel BF board about him, so you can imagine us supporters, desperate to salvage something out of this debacle, clinging onto anything at this stage. Deep down most believe we are not going to come out even in this trade.
 

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Grundy and 22 will be the deal that is done,adelaide will want it some this week because they said they are going to be shopping for a player to cover the tippet difference
 

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Surely he's visiting his sick aunty or something? Seriously, noone anywhere would believe that he would be willingly offered for trade.
Likewise, the same for Reid. IF, there is anything at all in this rumour, surely it is being driven by Reid for whatever reason (or even Collingwood), but surely not Sydney. There is definitely rumour other than on the Adel BF board about him, so you can imagine us supporters, desperate to salvage something out of this debacle, clinging onto anything at this stage. Deep down most believe we are not going to come out even in this trade.
good call about that post mate. I would be absolutely pissed off if reid wanted out and was in the same boat as Tippett and really ******* over adelaide. No doubt you guys deserve good compensation. Would pick 22 + Grundy do the job? What would adelaide want considering you guys need another key defender and forward. I know you guys want one of our young guns like Rohan and Ried because your losing such a key player but i dont think it will happen. Honestly i dont blame the clubs at all, i blame that campaigner Tippett. He can really **** over both our clubs imo.
 

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Lewis Johnston was public information at the Swans and Tom Lynch had spilled his guts to his old private school buddies who were posting on here and ringing radio stations wit the gossip... no coups there. The others I know little about and this was not to diss FAITH but to point out the world knew the last two before.
That's fair enough, and I'm not here to try and troll you guys either, just letting you know why we actually give any form of credence to what he says. He is about the only person on BigFooty I actually pay any sort of attention to when it comes to player movement.

Personally, I don't see Reid going anywhere, unless he really wants to leave, and there doesn't seem to be any indication of that being the case.
 

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To be fair, FAITH has earned his rep for having good info. .... He obviously knows somebody who has something to do with list management at the club. He didn't say Reid to Collingwood is a certainty or anything like that, he just said according to his source, As for suggestions that he'd also need sources inside Collingwood and Sydney, I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility to suggest that these guys might actually talk to people in similar positions at other clubs during trade week.
Just a suggestion jot down the list of names that Faith produces this year and see how many come to fruition and make a note how many were disclosed by him prior to them becoming publicly speculated elsewhere.

I'll give you 2 from Sydney he mentioned
Rohan of interest to Geelong and Reid of interest to Collingwood.

And do you really think Sydney (for example) would be telling an Adelaide list manager that they have had interest in Reid & Rohan from other clubs?
Hardly the most professional negotiating tactic.*

*EDIT I should add Faith actually mentioned that rumour on this board prior to trade week so it's not as if the matter came up in discussions when possible trades were being considered.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threa...-trade-to-sydney.975735/page-60#post-25985808
 

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good call about that post mate. I would be absolutely pissed off if reid wanted out and was in the same boat as Tippett and really ******* over adelaide. No doubt you guys deserve good compensation. Would pick 22 + Grundy do the job? What would adelaide want considering you guys need another key defender and forward. I know you guys want one of our young guns like Rohan and Ried because your losing such a key player but i dont think it will happen. Honestly i dont blame the clubs at all, i blame that silly Tippett. He can really **** over both our clubs imo.
Apparently Reg really does not want to leave. Don't think he will be involved unless both Syd and Adel can talk him around. But not even sure Adel would have him that high on the list. More likely a speedy outside mid. That's why a third club, at least, would need to be involved.
You guys would have to be rapt if you could get Reg and 22 done. I could imagine something like this happening. We (supporters!!) would think that is well under. A few will come back here, earn themselves a card and then we will all slink off quietly!
FWIW, I think Tipp's worth around a 10 and a 20 but can't see that happening.
 

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Just a suggestion jot down the list of names that Faith produces this year and see how many come to fruition and make a note how many were disclosed by him prior to them becoming publicly speculated elsewhere.

I'll give you 2 from Sydney he mentioned
Rohan of interest to Geelong and Reid of interest to Collingwood.

And do you really think Sydney (for example) would be telling an Adelaide list manager that they have had interest in Reid & Rohan from other clubs?
Hardly the most professional negotiating tactic.
No. But it being public knowledge that we're trying to work out a trade for a big name player ourselves, which from the outset looks difficult to complete when considering the assets available, I would certainly expect a list manager from Collingwood to be talking with the Adelaide staff about multi-club trading possibilities.

As for the rest of your post, I'm sure there are plenty of deals that don't eventuate during the trade period. It doesn't make his information any less accurate. As I said, he's not posting and saying these movements are certainties, is he?
 

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Just a suggestion jot down the list of names that Faith produces this year and see how many come to fruition and make a note how many were disclosed by him prior to them becoming publicly speculated elsewhere.

I'll give you 2 from Sydney he mentioned
Rohan of interest to Geelong and Reid of interest to Collingwood.

And do you really think Sydney (for example) would be telling an Adelaide list manager that they have had interest in Reid & Rohan from other clubs?
Hardly the most professional negotiating tactic.

Before leaving Oz, our close (very) friend's brother was a player manager. We used to get all the proposed talk between the managers about who was talking or chasing who. Not sure too many list managers told him everything they knew; just what was relevant to him. I reckon less than 10% of the proposed trades ever got up. That's why I learnt not to bother talking about them.
No doubt Faith has good info; just a matter of what comes off and what doesn't.
 
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Sometimes inside information is wrong or incorrect and no club would trade for a player yet to prove ability to run after a broken leg for anything below a 4th Round Pick. Plus the Reid rumour doesn't pass the smell test because Collingwood couldn't fit the front loaded contract under the salary cap.

Sure their might be interest, but not at what we would want.

Think about it, rather than blindly following the leader.......
 

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Guys, those who keep complaining to me about this thread, report posts. I'm not sitting here spectating this shit when there are way better threads on this board at the moment, so report a post and I'll action it straight away.
 

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Anyone who bites at the Jetta story probably doesn't watch the Swans often enough to realize how important he is. It's no wonder we get shit for having fairweather fans, when in reality any person who suggests a Jetta for Tippett trade should have their faced laughed at so hard.
 

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Apparently Reg really does not want to leave. Don't think he will be involved unless both Syd and Adel can talk him around. But not even sure Adel would have him that high on the list. More likely a speedy outside mid. That's why a third club, at least, would need to be involved.
You guys would have to be rapt if you could get Reg and 22 done. I could imagine something like this happening. We (supporters!!) would think that is well under. A few will come back here, earn themselves a card and then we will all slink off quietly!
FWIW, I think Tipp's worth around a 10 and a 20 but can't see that happening.

Of course he doesnt, hard enough for you guys to get people to stay let alone us convince someone to move there.


Grundy is massivelt underated in adelaide if they are your thoughts though, him and pick 22 the crows would should be bloody happy.
 

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Of course he doesnt, hard enough for you guys to get people to stay let alone us convince someone to move there.


Grundy is massivelt underated in adelaide if they are your thoughts though, him and pick 22 the crows would should be bloody happy.
He's still dirty that neither of the 2 SA sides never drafted him when they first had the chance.

Maybe he is under-rated and maybe he isn't. Just that the need for a speedy outside mid is greater than another defender, IMO.
Personally would love to see Reg with us; he played junior footy with our son from under 8's on until he got too good and jumped an age group and have followed his progress ever since.
 

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Does anyone else find the Hawks grabbing Lake opens things up a bit?

It means the Bulldogs are looking for a new defender. They have picks 5+6. So what about Grundy + our 22 to bulldogs for pick 5/6, which we then on-trade for Tippett. Of course that leaves a hole in our backline. We then go out and poach one of the Hawthorn defenders who've suddenly become surplus to thier requirements (Murphy, Gilham, Young).

GWS might also be losing Giles, so maybe White+TDL + our pick 22 for one of their early picks, and then on trade that to the Crows.

There seem like a number of ways to get the deal done, so it should happen. Adelaide might not want picks, preferring established players, but i'm sure if we offered them early picks they'd be smart enough to realise those could then be traded for a player they want.
 

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What the flying f***! Someone said jetta was spotted in adelaide today?!?!?! If we f****** trade jetta for that overrated concussed hack in tippett i will not be renewing my 10 year membership.
Don't stress. He was quoted last week saying he wants to play his whole career in Sydney.
 

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It would be a fairer trade than most that are being posted on the Adelaide board.

Over there you want Reid and 22 for Tippett. Reid by himself would have more trade currency than Tippett. And Reid is contracted for 5 years where Tippett has walked out. So I don't think we would do Tippett and 15 for Reid.

So as I said it is probably as close as most of the posts over their
 
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