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Society/Culture Kyle Rittenhouse

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That's not what you said, which was this:
His former partner called the police as he was sexually assaulting her.

So was he sexually assaulting her at the time of the call or not?
That was my understanding, I'm happy to be wrong on that and it was just a previous sexual assault that he was returning to the victim over. That he was facing charges for, that he had an arrest warrant issued for.
 
How did the media shape that narrative? Which particular report did I read?
Such that you were lead to believe something clearly incorrect for such a significant amount of time.

It's not your fault either. It would only become your fault when presented with clear examples of being mislead you don't then gain a measure of distrust of the groups you're being fed the narrative by.
 

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Led astray by the media?
I think I'm responsible for mistaking timelines.

Blake sexually assaulted her, had a restraining order over it - turned up to his victim's home and she called the police. So he had sexually assaulted her and was in the act of breaching a restraining order when he refused to comply.
 
I think I'm responsible for mistaking timelines.

Blake sexually assaulted her, had a restraining order over it - turned up to his victim's home and she called the police. So he had sexually assaulted her and was in the act of breaching a restraining order when he refused to comply.

My understanding is Blake digitally r*ped her (which obviously was also a breach of the a current restraining order) prior to the call which lead to him getting shot. The restraining order was due to domestic violence during their previous relationship. But stand to be corrected.
 
the state lines meme only ever had any bearing if the rifle was an SBR (short-barrelled rifle) requiring a federal tax stamp. it wasn't.
 
That was my understanding, I'm happy to be wrong on that and it was just a previous sexual assault that he was returning to the victim over. That he was facing charges for, that he had an arrest warrant issued for.

Where’d the understanding come from?


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The press conference from the DA detailing sexual crimes committed against her when he chose not to press charges against the police officer.
 
scoman, I haven’t talked about things I haven’t looked at. I’ve talked mainly about the support at the time. I’ve pointed out the difference in support and public statements and about the reasons for this - the hierarchy of white vs other.

So what does this all mean when it comes down to the verdict? Are you upset that he got a 'fair go' and the facts were able to be layed out by a competent lawyer. If so that's rather petty and just a pretty shit view to be honest.
Or are you upset that another person might not be afforded that opportunity. If that's the case I agree with you. Who wouldn't? The idea in all of this; law, race, opportunity etc, should be to raise the standard rather than lower it.
 

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Don't people feel even a tad manipulated by the politics at play here? Where was this outrage when peoples livelihoods were being destroyed and people murdered during all these riots?

Does that make this killing ok?

Just shooting someone on the street is hardly 'justice'.

The fact he's a mentally 'light on' lad with a gun, who went off to a volatile situation & killed someone, must surely worry people?
 
Don't people feel even a tad manipulated by the politics at play here? Where was this outrage when peoples livelihoods were being destroyed and people murdered during all these riots?

This is in the politics thread and you’re expressing political opinions. He was politically radicalised against those seeking a political solution.

But you’re above politics.
 
Absolute scenes in the courtroom. His closing remarks were quite biazzare as well.
Was the prosecution able to find any witnesses or decent vision that suggested Rittenhouse was threatening people prior to the incident with Rosenbaum? You would think with all the people there and the amount of vision that was captured, it would have been presented if it existed. Would have turned the case on its head.
 
I'd prefer that there weren't any killings but the evidence seems to suggest that the violence was brought to Rittenhouse and he protected himself, then attempted to flee again and more violence was brought to him where he defended himself again.

Video shows him being attacked while fleeing, people who stopped attacking him when his gun was raised weren't shot. The guy who sought to club him with his skateboard would be alive if they followed him to the police where he said he was going, the guy who had the handgun would have use of his right arm if he didn't bring his gun up to Rittenhouse's head - and he didn't continue firing at him after he was disabled - before continuing to the police to surrender to them, directing them down the road to where people needed help.

Rosenbaum appears to be the mentally loose cannon, screaming about how he doesn't care about going back to jail, throwing around the N word. He just got out of a mental hospital post a suicide attempt after he found out that his girlfriend wouldn't let him stay at her place post his release from prison for sexually assaulting multiple boys. He chased Rittenhouse, he was armed with a chain. He was intimidating and was unhinged.

But for his clearly mentally unwell state I think there would be no story out of Kenosha that night except more property destroyed.
 
He was politically radicalised against those seeking a political solution.

The guy yelling racism slurs at the anti-racist rally that was causing destruction and committing arson might have just been a deranged person who needed more mental health treatment and shouldn't have been allowed on the street anyway, venting his clearly emotional state at his life fallen apart for raping children such that he had tried to kill himself one event prior to that night - that's where he was released from hospital, from that attempt on that night.

That wasn't political solution seeking. That was violent and destructive acting out with any excuse.
 

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The guy who sought to club him with his skateboard would be alive if they followed him to the police where he said he was going
Trust is lacking you reckon?
 
Trust is lacking you reckon?
I think the power of a mob is being understated here.

The swell of the crowd would have made them feel invincible, caught up in the adrenaline.

When they realised he would fire on them for attacking him they withdrew and he didn't shoot any of those people.
 
Does that make this killing ok?

Just shooting someone on the street is hardly 'justice'.

The fact he's a mentally 'light on' lad with a gun, who went off to a volatile situation & killed someone, must surely worry people?
Of course it worries people and the whole thing is an absolute shit show of the highest order. However that doesn't mean he should be convicted if the law and the facts don't support it.
I'm actually surprised this kind of thing doesn't happen more often. Im sure it happens frequently in other settings over there. It's nuts.
 
So, use of the n word is used as justification for being murdered in this thread, in others ‘it’s just a word snowflakes…free speech’.


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No, the violence brought against someone is justification for them defending themselves in a fashion that results in death. He didn't deserve to die but he forfeited his right to live when he threatened and brought violence to someone else over them putting out a fire you started. Nobody has an obligation to wait and see if the clearly deranged guy screaming and armed is going to take it easy with you.

Putting his penis in a boy under ten's body justified him being put in the ground years earlier. They are different things.
 

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