Society/Culture Kyle Rittenhouse

[RedVest4]

I've already posed that question (to the same poster I think) and, surprise, surprise, it gets avoided/deflected.

Anything to avoid admitting that vigilantism is something they agree with only when it suits their philosophical/political leanings.

Ive already answered above. If the exact same thing happened with different political ideology of the parties involved they would be acquitted too. Im fine with that but you are too busy cheering on your "side" like a football team to do the same

 

[Taylor]

...as evidenced by the other people who backed off Rittenhouse when the gun was raised and he didn't shoot any of them.

Just the guy who tried to club him with the skateboard and the guy who pointed a handgun at his head. And the previously mentioned mentally unhinged nutter chasing him down for daring to put out a fire

 

[scoman]

OK, so you're saying that if two people are 'caught on camera trying to push a dumpster on fire into a gas station', it's OK for an ANTIFA member shoot each person dead several minutes later in an unrelated incident?

That's your position here?

Aren't you a lawyer yourself? You are just embarrassing yourself here.

 

[sherb]

Something that never ceases to amaze me.

The exact same pricks that are quick to denounce all Muslims for the horrors of Islamic terrorism, are apologists or even cheerleaders for the Norway and Christchurch shooters.

It doesn't amaze me, sadly.

Pretty much the same situation. An out of control crowd, many violent, lives under threat, property being damaged, police struggling to control the situation.

Yet you can't get these posters to admit that the Kyle approach - which was acceptable to them in Kenosha - would have been acceptable in the Jan 6 situation as well.

Funny that.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

No, there is no evidence that the people KR shot and killed were destroying a city. What they were trying to do was disarm him.

Again, in identical circumstances, are you down with ANTIFA affiliated arming themselves and heading on down to Right Wing rallies (like the Capital Hill rally and similar) and doing what KR did here (shooting people who tried to disarm them)?

Yes or No.

Malifice try looking at the actual evidence rather than the CNN/MSNBC characterisation of it.

They were not trying to disarm him. They were trying to assault (probably kill) him. Like (at least) the racist pedo had said he would.

 

[Chief]

Weren't you the one who used the "entire city" line?

And now you're mocking other people like they said it?

“destroying a city”

 

[RedVest4]

Weren't you the one who used the "entire city" line?

And now you're mocking other people like they said it?

Exactly right. Writing Chief off as irrelevant here as he has no interest in facts or a logical debate

 

[sherb]

Ive already answered above. If the exact same thing happened with different political ideology of the parties involved they would be acquitted too. Im fine with that but you are too busy cheering on your "side" like a football team to do the same

So you would have supported ANITFA vigilantes going into the Capitol situation, a la Kyle?

 

[scoman]

I've already posed that question (to the same poster I think) and, surprise, surprise, it gets avoided/deflected.

Anything to avoid admitting that vigilantism is something they agree with only when it suits their philosophical/political leanings.

It's been answered already with a big fat YES. Can I also add my YES!! Are you reading the posts!!!!!!!????????

 

[Taylor]

“destroying a city”

You're the one who took it to the next level, I know.

Claim: The rioters in Kenosha were destroying the city
ChiefFACTCheck: FALSE, they were not destroying an entire city, just the specific area around them.

 

[Chief]

They were not trying to disarm him. They were trying to assault

How do you disarm without assaulting??

The little shit got himself in trouble and killed people to get out of it.

 

[ChappyUK]

So just so we're clear here, you would support an ANTIFA member heading down (armed) to the Capitol hill riots, or at Charlestons 'Unite the Right' rally, and shooting those right wing protestors there under the same circumstances as this bloke here did to the blokes he shot?

Just want to make sure you're consistent here.

You'd be on the side of the ANTIFA member in that case?

ANTIFA doesn't exist and is just an idea.

 

[Chief]

You're the one who took it to the next level, I know.

What the duck does “destroying a city” mean then?

 

[sherb]

It's been answered already with a big fat YES. Can I also add my YES!! Are you reading the posts!!!!!!!????????

I missed your reply. Sorry.

 

[RedVest4]

It doesn't amaze me, sadly.

Pretty much the same situation. An out of control crowd, many violent, lives under threat, property being damaged, police struggling to control the situation.

Yet you can't get these posters to admit that the Kyle approach - which was acceptable to them in Kenosha - would have been acceptable in the Jan 6 situation as well.

Funny that.

One of the Jan 6 protesters was shot dead while unarmed. No charges there

 

[Taylor]

So you would have supported ANITFA vigilantes going into the Capitol situation, a la Kyle?

If nobody threatens people and nobody attacks anyone, nobody gets killed.

Just like the night before this event in Kenosha where the BLM/Riot/Left side had bulk rifles on the street.

 

[Chief]

they were not destroying an entire city, just the specific area around them.

Some people were destroying property.

“Destroying a city” is hyperbole. Which I made fun of.

 

[sherb]

If nobody threatens people and nobody attacks anyone, nobody gets killed.

Just like the night before this event in Kenosha where the BLM/Riot/Left side had bulk rifles on the street.

So you would have supported ANITFA vigilantes going into the Capitol situation, a la Kyle?

 

[sherb]

One of the Jan 6 protesters was shot dead while unarmed. No charges there

So you would have supported ANITFA vigilantes going into the Capitol situation, a la Kyle?

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

How do you disarm without assaulting??

The little sh*t got himself in trouble and killed people to get out of it.

Did you cut my quote again? You must stop doing that. It’s not very honest.

 

[Taylor]

What the duck does “destroying a city” mean then?

Starting fires, burning buildings and businesses down. Coming back the next night to continue. And all over the police shooting a guy they wouldn't pee on if their arson lit him on fire.

 

[RedVest4]

“destroying a city”

Burned at least 30 buildings to the ground in this peaceful protest...but hey the Jan 6 guys took a lectern

 

[Malifice]

Two different questions that again you are trying to deliberately confuse for a gotcha moment. You said neither was destroying anything. Fact is both were trying to but that wasnt why they were killed.

Then why the **** bring it up in the first place?

They were killed coz they tried to kill a man who had an AK and failed to take it off him

1) It wasnt an AK.

2) So your argument is, it should be legal for a gunman to shoot someone dead... who is trying to disarm the gunman?

Like... you're saying if you saw some crazed dude with a mean beard in the CBD waving ISIS' black flag of Jihad and screaming something that sounds like 'Admiral Akbar', while holding an AK-47, that this individual should be well within his legal rights to shoot you dead on the spot if you tried to disarm him, and that your killing should be legal?

Or even if you just saw some random fat nerdy 17 year kid with an AR-15 in the CBD... he's within his rights tp blow you away if you attempted to disarm him?

That's your argument here?

 

[RedVest4]

So you would have supported ANITFA vigilantes going into the Capitol situation, a la Kyle?

Pretty sure you will find there was plenty of ANTIFA "counter protesters" on Jan 6 and surrounds

 

[Chief]

Did you cut my quote again? You must stop doing that. It’s not very honest.

Rubbish. The rest was irrelevant to my question.

How do you disarm someone without assaulting them?