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Society/Culture Kyle Rittenhouse

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Malifice said:
Again someone who tried to disarm him.

How was Anthony supposed to know any of this, with the crowd screaming out that the kid with the rifle was an active shooter?
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He didn't know. That's the point. He chased down a bloke who was running towards the police and belted him, sorry, "made contact" with a skateboard.

And Rosenbaum had made a bunch of threats earlier in the night. Which is in evidence. Stop watching CNN. They're unreliable.
 

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ChampRevesby said:
Watts in 1965, Detroit in 1967, Los Angeles in 1992, or Baltimore in 2015, Kenosha 2020. All stemming from police violence. The US really needs to start to address some of these issues otherwise it will never end. LA was particularly insane.
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The Rittenhouse defenders will defend the shooting of Blake too sadly.

Attitudes like theirs are a big part of the problem (certainly when held by those in the US).
 
Malifice said:
Its my opinion. Im allowed one.

Also, seeing as you think its a pre-requisite to have knowledge of US laws to post here, and you know SFA about US laws, I presume (to be consistent) this will be the last we hear from you in this thread.

Unless you're a hypocrite of course.
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I've never said what Rittenhouse should have/should not of done. I haven't condoned his actions.

I'm only curious as to why this case, out of all the shit that happened last year. Has become such a racial and political lightening rod when it only involved white people.

It's obvious it is media driven. Dividing people is a ratings and clickbait winner.

I'm just amazes me so many have willingly fallen for it.
 
BruceFromBalnarring said:
He didn't know. That's the point. He chased down a bloke who was running towards the police and belted him, sorry, "made contact" with a skateboard.
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So we agree on these facts:

1) All Anthony likely knew about Kyle was what the crowd were yelling (that there was an active shooter, and Kyle was likely the person)
2) Anthony moved his GF out of harms way and went towards Kyle
3) He attempted to disarm Kyle and hit him with his skateboard
4) Kyle then shot him in the chest with his rifle, killing him

Do you agree that those are the facts?
 
Malifice said:
So we agree on these facts:

1) All Anthony likely knew about Kyle was what the crowd were yelling (that there was an active shooter, and Kyle was likely the person)
2) Anthony moved his GF out of harms way and went towards Kyle
3) He attempted to disarm Kyle and hit him with his skateboard
4) Kyle then shot him in the chest with his rifle, killing him

Do you agree that those are the facts?
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No. And you are a lousy lawyer.
 
ChappyUK said:
I'm only curious as to why this case, out of all the sh*t that happened last year. Has become such a racial and political lightening rod when it only involved white people.
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Ask all the usual RWNJ's flood on here to defend his actions as one.

Rather than have a discussion about the merits of what happened, or humanizing the victims its all 'ANTIFA and BLM' blabbering bullshit and typcial partisan trolling bullshit.
 
Malifice said:
So we agree on these facts:
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3) He attempted to disarm Kyle and hit him with his skateboard
4) Kyle then shot him in the chest with his rifle, killing him

Do you agree that those are the facts?
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Surprised the prosecution didn't call you to the stand with their strike rate
 
BruceFromBalnarring said:
You defending another rapist now? He was resisting arrest and had grabbed a knife.
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No, I'm criticizing the over-reaction of the police. How many bullets in the back was it?

Nice try at getting a reaction though.
 

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BruceFromBalnarring said:
No. And you are a lousy lawyer.
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Which of those facts dont you agree with then:

1) All Anthony likely knew about Kyle was what the crowd were yelling (that there was an active shooter, and Kyle was likely the person)
2) Anthony moved his GF out of harms way and went towards Kyle
3) He attempted to disarm Kyle and hit him with his skateboard
4) Kyle then shot him in the chest with his rifle, killing him

Presuming you can count above 3, I've even numbered them for you to make it easier to call out which one you disagree with.
 
sherb said:
No, I'm criticizing the over-reaction of the police. How many bullets in the back was it?

Nice try at getting a reaction though.
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The amount of shots cops unload always shocks me. But it seems to be consistent, so must be in their training or something.

Once the bad guy shows a weapon, it seems all bets are off.

But I won't be shedding tears for Blake.
 
Malifice said:
Which of those facts dont you agree with then:

1) All Anthony likely knew about Kyle was what the crowd were yelling (that there was an active shooter, and Kyle was likely the person)
2) Anthony moved his GF out of harms way and went towards Kyle
3) He attempted to disarm Kyle and hit him with his skateboard
4) Kyle then shot him in the chest with his rifle, killing him

Presuming you can count above 3, I've even numbered them for you to make it easier to call out which one you disagree with.
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1 and 4 are probably true. 2 and 3 probably not true.

But you keep ignoring verifiable facts, evidenced by video footage, that Rittenhouse was running away from the drama and towards the police.

Now it's 10.45 and I'm going to bed.
 
Malifice said:
No you forfeit your right to self defence when you put yourself intentionally in harms way through an act of armed vigilantism. If it were any other way, then fu** the rule of law, lets all just grab some guns and legalize dueling again.

Beats me what the laws are in the USA though.
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Wouldn't the laws in the USA, Wisconsin in particular be relevant to this case?
If Rittenhouse had of been threatening people with his rifle, or with his words for that matter, showing a clear intent to shoot, this case would have gone differently. Witnesses would have taken the stand to state that. There would also quite likely have been vision of that. The prosecution found something they thought/ hoped might be evidence of that, but it was very poor quality.

Many people attended these riots with their firearms. This is not illegal. It's not unusual over there. It's a way of life. There is lots of vision of confrontation that night. Pushing, shoving, screaming, threats even with guns drawn and visible. The reality is nobody pulled a trigger or assumed anybody would, until Rosenbaum tried to run down Rittenhouse and lunge at him (video and witness accounts) after threats that he would do so earlier in the night. As it turns out the guy was a complete mess and didn't seem to have much of a care for his own safety.

I feel sorry for Huber the skateboard guy. I'm not sure if he genuinely felt he needed to step in to save lives or if he was trying to deal out a bit of his own swift justice. Im happy for the family to believe he acted heroically. It turns out he didn't need to do what he did, he misjudged the situation. I'm also happy to give Grosskruetz a pass as well. He has changed his story a bit, lied to police, bragged that he should have pulled the trigger etc, but in the moment he decided not to. I think he was confused.

The whole thing stinks that's for sure, it doesn't make any sense for us here in Australia. The only place we expect to see anyone with a firearm who is not a cop or in the armed forces is at a range, a gun shop, a farm or we happen to stumble across a hunter in the back country somewhere. We also don't expect to see rioting, looting and that much agro even in our most passionate demonstrations and rallies. It's a scale and level of violence we just aren't used to.
 

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BruceFromBalnarring said:
The amount of shots cops unload always shocks me. But it seems to be consistent, so must be in their training or something.

Once the bad guy shows a weapon, it seems all bets are off.

But I won't be shedding tears for Blake.
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And yet, according to you, I was defending a rapist.

As the poster I quoted pointed out, police (mis)behaviour is a big part of this problem. Not the whole problem of course, but a big part of it. And this needs to be recognized by those who don't want to currently do so.

Handle the Blake arrest in a better way and it's likely that none of this occurs. That's not saying that Blake doesn't bear his share of responsibility - but multiple shots in the back? Nah, sorry, not necessary.
 
BruceFromBalnarring said:
1 and 4 are probably true. 2 and 3 probably not true.
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2) Anthony moved his GF out of harms way and went towards Kyle
3) He attempted to disarm Kyle and hit him with his skateboard

The only evidence we have about 2 (he moved his GF to safety first) is from a first hand witness and is unchallenged by any other evidence.

What evidence do you have to make that 'probably not true' in your head that I missed?

As for 3, the fact he tried to disarm and strike Kyle with his skateboard is accepted by only literally everyone at the trial, argued by Kyle and his own lawyer, but also backed up by the video footage!

How on earth can you argue it's 'probably not true' based on the footage showing that occurring, and the submissions from witnesses, and Kyle himself?
 
Malifice said:
Ask all the usual RWNJ's flood on here to defend his actions as one.

Rather than have a discussion about the merits of what happened, or humanizing the victims its all 'ANTIFA and BLM' blabbering bullshit and typcial partisan trolling bullshit.
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I have tried till the point of frustration to discuss the case in what I feel is an objective manner.
I don't think I have used the words Antifa or BLM at all in this thread.
Then again I don't consider myself a RWNJ either, so I'm going to assume you are not talking about me.
 
BruceFromBalnarring said:
The amount of shots cops unload always shocks me. But it seems to be consistent, so must be in their training or something.

Once the bad guy shows a weapon, it seems all bets are off.

But I won't be shedding tears for Blake.
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they shoot until the threat is neutralised. shooting once or twice and waiting to see how it goes is how cops get killed. also the real world isn't like a movie where one shot sends the bad guy flying through a plate glass window. in a highly charged and stressful situation the human body can do some crazy shit and absorb an insane about of damage and keep going... at least for a while.
a long but excellent video on the topic:
 
scoman said:
I have tried till the point of frustration to discuss the case in what I feel is an objective manner.
I don't think I have used the words Antifa or BLM at all in this thread.
Then again I don't consider myself a RWNJ either, so I'm going to assume you are not talking about me.
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There are the usual trolls that want to make it a 'left vs right' thing and buy into the USA spawned bullshit about 'ANTIFA and BLM' alt-right bullshit on social media.

Im not saying you're one of them, but we have them.
 

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