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Society/Culture Kyle Rittenhouse

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Taylor said:
Again, the biggest story here is that criminals and heinous criminals at that are what are drawn to the riots. Not heroes. Not good people.
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Keep dehumanising the victims. It makes their deaths totally okay.
 
It's really great when someone spends a whole page banging on about facts just to say the major story here is something that cannot be verified by facts.
 
Taylor said:
The #1 person here was saying it. There were news reports still repeating it.

Again, the biggest story here is that criminals and heinous criminals at that are what are drawn to the riots. Not heroes. Not good people.
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Sure, provide a few quotes/examples then.

You know, just to humour us inferior intellects whilst also proving your assertion.

I'll make this point to you - saying this incident was about race is a completely different thing to saying Rittenhouse shot black people.
 

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Taylor said:
Their own actions, in all contexts here, made their deaths okay.
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In the eyes of the law, but law ddoesn't dictate morality.
 
SSwans2011 said:
It's really great when someone spends a whole page banging on about facts just to say the major story here is something that cannot be verified by facts.
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It's the particular poster's modus operandi.

Be warned, engage for a while by all means but don't go down the rabbit hole.

It will do your head in. :(
 
sherb said:
Sure, provide a few quotes/examples then.

You know, just to humour us inferior intellects whilst also proving your assertion.

I'll make this point to you - saying this whole incident was about race is a completely different thing to saying Rittenhouse shot black people.
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People have been doing that too, claiming it's a racial thing.

Just look up Chief already put his hand up over it, to his credit, he admitted he wasn't fully read up on the issue and rectified that position.

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SSwans2011 said:
In the eyes of the law, but law ddoesn't dictate morality.
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If you were to throw a handful of marbles at any crowd you wouldn't hit the number of violent and child raping felonies he hit with a few bullets, seems like a certain type of person is drawn to that kind of political movement.
 
Taylor said:
claiming it's a racial thing
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What do you think I am saying is a racial thing?

Respond so I can walk you back to a position grounded in facts.
 
SSwans2011 said:
In the eyes of the law, but law ddoesn't dictate morality.
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You see that reasoning quite a bit unfortunately, ie legality is the only parameter needed to measure if something is acceptable.

Unrelated to this matter, but, as an example, we saw it with St Gladys and her defence of pork barrelling. "It was legal". Never mind if it was moral or not, ethical or not, just plain right or not, "it was legal".
 
Chief said:
What do you think I am saying is a racial thing?

Respond so I can walk you back to a position grounded in facts.
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"Rittenhouse shot black people!"
 

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sherb said:
"Rittenhouse shot black people!"
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Did you see the screen grab I posted just a little bit ago where they were still repeating that lie? Actually I should call it a lie, I don't know for sure that they chose to do that knowing it adds extra inflammation.
 
Taylor said:
Did you see the screen grab I posted just a little bit ago where they were still repeating that lie? Actually I should call it a lie, I don't know for sure that they chose to do that knowing it adds extra inflammation.
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I saw that.

But how many people in this discussion said it?

I repeat - saying there are racial elements to this case is a completely different thing altogether to saying "Rittenhouse shot black people".
 
Taylor said:
If you were to throw a handful of marbles at any crowd you wouldn't hit the number of violent and child raping felonies he hit with a few bullets, seems like a certain type of person is drawn to that kind of political movement.
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And what do you think the propensity towards crime was amongst the Proud Boys Kyle chose to associate with before, during, and after he shot 3 people?
 
Taylor said:
Their gun laws, particularly in places like California were about taking guns out of the hands of black men. Look it up.

It's racist rubbish.
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Interesting and slightly amusing to note that California's first major shift away from having weapons in the streets was brought about by a conservative government and opposed by the Black Panthers, isn't it. Ronald Reagan's shift in stance over the next ten years, too.
 
sherb said:
I saw that.

But how many people in this discussion said it?

I repeat - saying there are racial elements to this case is a completely different thing altogether to saying "Rittenhouse shot black people".
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That's the thing about dog whistles, isn't it. Easy to ignore or pretend they don't exist, as suits your position at the time.
Even easier, derail a discussion into an argument on whether or not anyone even used one.
 

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Present Not Past said:
What an amazing country the US has become. Everyone of them should be so proud.
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Tbf we've seen similar events in other countries - Germany and UK come to mind. But still...
 
Dogs_R_Us said:
Tbf we've seen similar events in other countries - Germany and UK come to mind. But still...
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True - but the superiority the US built its own brand on has evaporated. Dare say, they joined the club the European nations are a part of.
 
sherb said:
I looked it up.

Waukesha is an hour's drive from Kenosha.

If it's not connected it is one remarkable coincidence.

The USA has got major problems.
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I thought Kyle living 20 minutes drive away from Kenosha was evidence he wasn't connected to Kenosha and was a hero-fantasy vigilante?

Hard to keep up with you guys in here.
 

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