Society/Culture Kyle Rittenhouse

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In this thread there was sh*t all debate about whether or not he was guilty by the letter of the law, it was predominantly about whether or not he should face consequences for his actions.

And what have those consequences been? He's been lionised by political groups that are against the BLM movement, and is presumably set-up for life, because he killed 2 people participating in a social movement which threatens those political groups.

Continuing to try to move the debate back towards the application of the law is an awfully convenient way to avoid talking about those consequences, though.
I'd say there was lots of debate about it, because so much of the posting was conflating the legality of what happened with outrage fuelled by political persuasion.

Both things can be true - Rittenhouse was used by both extremes of politics for their own gain while having acted legally according to the laws of the day.

That one political side "won" and are now exploiting him is a related but separate issue.
 

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I'd say there was lots of debate about it, because so much of the posting was conflating the legality of what happened with outrage fuelled by political persuasion.

Both things can be true - Rittenhouse was used by both extremes of politics for their own gain while having acted legally according to the laws of the day.

That one political side "won" and are now exploiting him is a related but separate issue.

you forgot the russian and chinese trolls whose sole purpose is to create division in western society.

no doubt they’ve had a field day with this case.
 

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It wasn't too long ago that the same people were against Greta Thunberg being used for political purposes.
 

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It wasn't too long ago that the same people were against Greta Thunberg being used for political purposes.
Is the only similarity between the two that they are both 18 now?

One was thrust into the spotlight to be the figurehead for a movement and then any criticism of her was dismissed because you can't say that about a child, the other had a circumstance thrust upon them and then agitated by a media that was still spreading convenient mistruths for themselves that worked people up to make more content for them.

Again, the juxtaposition is the guy who drove his car through a Christmas parade and the Charlottesville car attack. Look into the background of both and ask why one was terrorism and one was an accident.
 

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he other had a circumstance thrust upon them and then agitated by a media that was still spreading convenient mistruths for themselves that worked people up to make more content for them.

You could say the same about Greta. Climate change is a circumstance thrust upon her, and a lot of mistruths have been told by the media about that and about her.

Again, the juxtaposition is the guy who drove his car through a Christmas parade and the Charlottesville car attack. Look into the background of both and ask why one was terrorism and one was an accident.

Darrell Brooks is being charged with many counts of homicide, and I think the media described it as more than an accident given his criminal history. Is there something political about his history that would make this an act of terror?
 

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You could say the same about Greta. Climate change is a circumstance thrust upon her, and a lot of mistruths have been told by the media about that and about her.
She wasn't special in that though, what she was is chosen to spread a message because she was a child and would get media attention. Funded by external motivators.
Now that she is 18 I don't see her as much.

Darrell Brooks is being charged with many counts of homicide, and I think the media described it as more than an accident given his criminal history. Is there something political about his history that would make this an act of terror?
Prior to his social media being scrubbed he was full of black supremacy and aggressively anti-white content. Violently so. It's one of those ones where if the positions were reversed, the white guy running his car into the black people would be the biggest hate criminal ever.
 

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She wasn't special in that though, what she was is chosen to spread a message because she was a child and would get media attention. Funded by external motivators.
Now that she is 18 I don't see her as much.

Activists are often not special, or self-funded. Maybe her youth is a problem because she might not know what she's talking about, but then why idolise the likese of Rittenhouse and his decision to bring an AR-15 to a protest?

Prior to his social media being scrubbed he was full of black supremacy and aggressively anti-white content. Violently so. It's one of those ones where if the positions were reversed, the white guy running his car into the black people would be the biggest hate criminal ever.

Agreed. Maybe his priors indicated that this was just his usual criminal behaviour.
 
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Activists are often not special, or self-funded. Maybe her youth is a problem because she might not know what she's talking about, but then why idolise the likese of Rittenhouse and his decision to bring an AR-15 to a protest?
I don't think they are comparable.

I think one is a product of a machine and one was the attempted victim of another machine.

Both are problematic. Both are effectively used by bigger powers over bigger issues.

We have Hollywood people crying over child rapists dying because they are so anti gun.

The biggest issue though is how quick the media and political scene is to label white people as white supremacist, but don't carry the same standard for other racial groups as we discussed earlier.

It's almost like the whole fake narrative collapses.
 

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Both are problematic. Both are effectively used by bigger powers over bigger issues.


What's the bigger issue that Greta is being used for?

We have Hollywood people crying over child rapists dying because they are so anti gun.

Yeah that was weird. However the jury was not told of his sex offender past so maybe it's not relevant. The real concern for me is that people are being emboldened to bring guns to these protests.

Most sex offenders were violated themselves, and this was the case with Rosenbaum. You could argue he was also a victim of circumstance.
 

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Who was randomly murdering people?

We’ll if the perfectly sane and non lunatic Taylor justifies the killing because one of the victims was a pedo that was discovered after the shooting, you campaigners may as well go around drilling randoms a because some will be pedos.


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