Labour party has gone full socialist

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Where's the UK sit on suicide rates?

I do see a lot of discussion pop up about it on twitter from various well known types over there talk about it and dealing with depression and all that, the awareness seems to be similar to what happens here.
Australia is ranked #51, the United Kingdom is #109
 
I disagree. It’s perfectly possible to acknowledge and be grateful for the incredible life we get to live here in Oz, yet maintaining very high standards and constantly striving to make the nation even better.

I find more than a few professed believers in individual effort and meritocracy are often proceeding from a very complacent view when it comes to the state of the nation. Not surprising. They’ve done fine, so why would they want to upset the applecart just so others can have a crack too?
And I think some people's narrative is so wrapped up in there needing to be downtrodden groups being held down that they will redefine it to suit.

In Australia you can coast through school, which is free, never putting in effort and still land on your feet in a great lifestyle compared to the rest of the world working a job that has to pay you at least $18.93 per hour, or $23.66 per hour if you're not also getting paid annual leave accruing and paid for days off sick. That places you in the top 2.17% of income on the planet if you work full time.

Being one of the richest countries in the world does come with expectations from the population about what minimum they expect, so I do understand why that figure would be thrown out by them.

I think a fairly large proportion of the resentment towards Australia and how things work comes from the same place that will gladly label Australia a racist place, or homophobic or sexist while completely ignoring other advanced nations openly having no foreigners allowed areas etc.

I also know quite a few people who gave zero effort in school who now blame their teachers for not making them work harder so now they aren't doctors and get in trouble with their actual work because they don't put in as much effort as their boss would like.

I also know people who chose to break the cycle of their family history and worked very hard, now enjoying the opportunity they created for themselves.

Long story short, unless you grew up in a horrible circumstance, which is not common, then Australia is the land of opportunity.
 
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Kidding, right?
Long story short, unless you grew up in a horrible circumstance, which is not common, then Australia is the land of opportunity.
I may well have mentioned this to you before, but while the very good news is that Australia is still one of the most upwardly-mobile societies on earth - meaning someone born poor in Australia has a better chance of dying rich than just about anywhere else - still the single most influential determinant of adult wealth in Australia is your parents’ postcode when you were born.

That is not good enough. Not nearly good enough.
 

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I may well have mentioned this to you before, but while the very good news is that Australia is still one of the most upwardly-mobile societies on earth - meaning someone born poor in Australia has a better chance of dying rich than just about anywhere else - still the single most influential determinant of adult wealth in Australia is your parents’ postcode when you were born.

That is not good enough. Not nearly good enough.

I agree that there are a lot of advantages to having parents that can provide for you a standard of living and education.

I don't discount that the greatest lesson your parents will teach you is how to work hard and not set examples in regards to alcohol, gambling, smoking or other substance use that will derail your aspirations if you've had that behavior normalised through growing up around it.
 
Finland and Sweden sit ahead of Australia on suicide rates, Finland by a fair bit. Sweden is the one above Australia.

If we had a population of five million then our GST and royalties from selling iron ore would make us much richer

I wasn't aware of this - this is absolutely disgusting - I haven't heard a word from either party about how they are going to make us one of the top destinations for suicide on earth!!!! We need to do better Australia!

#livesdontmatter
 
I wasn't aware of this - this is absolutely disgusting - I haven't heard a word from either party about how they are going to make us one of the top destinations for suicide on earth!!!! We need to do better Australia!

#livesdontmatter
Of the leading nations it's South Korea.
 
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The policy appears to be a two pronged approach. An overall rundown here (with criticisms):

https://theconversation.com/why-lab...economic-news-of-the-election-campaign-116441

The major issues with childcare sector is the attrition rate (35-40% within 3 years, primarily due to pay) which makes it a classis 'at risk' industry for market failure.

https://theconversation.com/labor-w...ect-storm-makes-it-not-such-a-bad-idea-116272
I thought you were referring to increased childcare worker wages as somehow boosting female participation. My mistake.
 
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Reports indicate pay is the number one reason people leave the industry.
Thats because too many 18-20 year olds decide to train as childcare workers without looking at what the wages are or at least comprehending what the wages mean for their standard of living. It results in an oversupply of workers in certain sectors desirable by 18 year olds such as childcare which pushes down wages even lower. This lack of focus on wages is a problem for all people straight out of high school who focus too much on non wage aspects of jobs. And this is particularly true of women due to cultural factors who on average rank wages as less important then men.

The solution here is not to distort the market and boost childcare workers wages. Its to educate people, particularly young women, to focus more on wages before deciding what they want to do in life. This will lead to workers skills better fitting societies desires and naturally boost childcare workers wages by reducing the oversupply of workers.
 
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If you don't even understand the basic meanings of terms, you can't fake it seeds. Capital as a result of social relations (an exchange value for labour), commodity production, the decoupling of productivity from wages and how this has renewed interest in certain Marxian analysis amongst many orthodox economists, the history of surplus value as a concept and so on. Unlike you, I actually have a background in economics. I know what faculties teach and why. So no amount of puffery will do it in this case.

That's why I called you an idiot. Not because you are ignorant, but because you are pretending not to be. Aggressively.
You get you are now just listing buzz phrases (some of which mean something and others which are so vague they mean nothing at all) without using them to actually make any coherent points right?

Make a point. Respond to points. Its how discussion happens. You have not responded to a single point which suggests you are illiterate in the subject you are trying to discuss.

I know you didnt actually mean socialism rejects capital in your previous post when you said capital. But I can only argue against the terms you actually use. Not the ones you think you are using.
 
At those ages the ratio is 1:7

Might be worth asking the question of the provider if you don't think those ratios are adhered to.
Where are you getting these ratios from? My experience is that ratio is about 1:8 for 4 year olds.
 

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You get you are now just listing buzz phrases (some of which mean something and others which are so vague they mean nothing at all) without using them to actually make any coherent points right?

Make a point. Respond to points. Its how discussion happens. You have not responded to a single point which suggests you are illiterate in the subject you are trying to discuss.

I know you didnt actually mean socialism rejects capital in your previous post when you said capital. But I can only argue against the terms you actually use. Not the ones you think you are using.
Just because you don't know the correct and specific meaning of words, or understand the fundamental concepts they represent, doesn't mean they are buzz phrases or incoherent.

Read a ******* book you plonker.
 

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If labor were really that left wing they would remove tax exemptions for religious institutions and churches

Unfortunately that won’t happen ever but there’s a case to say that it should
 

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Do LNP supporters know they're supporting a corrupt party and they're okay with it or are they all earning over like 200k?

I just don't understand how you can defend them.

Genuinely curious.

Maybe it's almost a religious thing? "My olds voted for 'em so I will too"
 

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