News Lachie Neale to Brisbane

[theGav56]

Borderline All Australian squad two years in a row. You rate Sheridan pretty highly.

Yeah, I understand the comparison, but the stats have them miles apart. Not sure what trade value I'd put for Duncan though.

 

[GreatPurpleShark]

No way north are swapping 10 for a 2019 pick. If gaff nominates them eagles will match and force trade. No way they would take 18 for their best mid. Plus port will want 10 for Polec.

 

[Scham]

Yeah, I understand the comparison, but the stats have them miles apart. Not sure what trade value I'd put for Duncan though.

Pretty similar value to Neale? Neale is 2 years younger but otherwise they compare very closely in terms of quality imo.

 

[Cobbler]

Any chance we keep Neale.

Get Lobb, Conca and Duncan for picks?

Well Conca is free.

 

[raffrox]

Any chance we keep Neale.

Get Lobb, Conca and Duncan for picks?

Well Conca is free.

If we lose pick 5.

 

[mike91]

Any chance we keep Neale.

Get Lobb, Conca and Duncan for picks?

Well Conca is free.

Keep Neale - yes

Get Lobb - yes

Get Conca - yes

Duncan - I don't buy into this rumour.

 

[Cobbler]

If we lose pick 5.

Would we consider exchanging 1st with GWS for Lobb?

Pick 5 for 12 and Lobb.

We then go Ian Hill, which despite sliding is probably something we need desperately.

I get the whole ‘no way man... top 5 talent blah blah’ but Ian Hill was considered top 5 all of last year and just had a poor year.

The other way to do similar is to downgrade 5 with Adelaide or Port and use one for Hill and the other for Lobb.

 

[raffrox]

Would we consider exchanging 1st with GWS for Lobb?

Pick 5 for 12 and Lobb.

We then go Ian Hill, which despite sliding is probably something we need desperately.

I get the whole ‘no way man... top 5 talent blah blah’ but Ian Hill was considered top 5 all of last year and just had a poor year.

The other way to do similar is to downgrade 5 with Adelaide or Port and use one for Hill and the other for Lobb.

We aren't going to get too many chances hopefully to land top end talent so personally I'd be spewing if we traded 5.

 

[Paracleet]

Pretty similar value to Neale? Neale is 2 years younger but otherwise they compare very closely in terms of quality imo.

Significantly less. Very good player: Not elite at anything. Neale: has limitations, but top six clearance mid in the comp.

 

[Cobbler]

We aren't going to get too many chances hopefully to land top end talent so personally I'd be spewing if we traded 5.

No doubt but do we rate Hill??

How confident are we of retaining the pick 5.

How far apart is the pick 5 from Ian Hill?

Before the champs most were wanting Ian Hill with our first, which was around 7 at the time.

We then do get Lobb.

 

[Bicco]

Assuming Walsh, Lukosius, Rozee, Rankine are gone and we have those picks from a Neale trade, then my personal plan would be:

BID on Nick Blakey
IF (Pick 5 = Blakey)
THEN (Pick 6 - Smith and END)
ELSE Pick 5 = Bailey Smith
BID on Tarryn Thomas
IF Pick 6 = Tarryn Thomas
THEN END
ELSE Pick 6 (Try Trade Pick 6 for 12 and 44 to GWS*)
IF (Trade accepted)
THEN look to pick Pick 12 with intent for Jordan Clark or Ian Hill and a later pick (Pick 44)
ELSE Pick 6 = Ben King

* or similar kind of trade to a club that is interested and has those kinds of picks like Hawthorn or Geelong - someone is going to tell me it isn't equivalent points or something but I don't care, do some more swapping with the residual from the presumed Lachie Neale trade.

General Reasoning:

• I have no qualms about picking up Vic players or from anywhere else, but from an overall list exposure perspective IMO you want to have a reasonable balance of actually decent WA players, and Jordan Clark fits a lot of boxes to the way we want to play and what we need to play in that way. Additionally Tom Joyce and Ian Hill are not bad players as other options sitting in the 10 - 30 category. Of course you could just take Jordan Clark with Pick 6 but I don't think anyone else will want him that early, so why not buy some extra leverage? It also opens up the possibility to pick up an O'Reilly type later.
• Not a big fan of the Kings and don't hold the weight for me as others but would probably take the uninjured one at Pick 6 if forced to pick there. I think they are both best up forward but both suffer from inaccuracy in front of goal - we already have a player in Cox that is more mobile and can take lots of marks. I think our current list management is to take more tall players in the hope that we get lucky, and reduce the risk of making a mistake early. The next best midfielder is probably Hately and he would be an option but again you are perhaps not taking the full value of the pick if you do.
• Tarryn Thomas has all the tools to be an absolute beast of the competition, despite the fall off a bit in the U18 Nationals and the rumours of having bad influences I would have not hesitation looking at him at pick 6. Essentially would be looking for him to be a hybrid forward; he has the height to play tall but also the agility and speed to play as a crumbing forward, or can go into the midfield and bulldoze people.

Of the playets in this draft, who has the most potential to win a Coleman medal.

 

[sherrif]

Significantly less. Very good player: Not elite at anything. Neale: has limitations, but top six clearance mid in the comp.

Duncan is an elite kick into the forward fifty and has been for a while.
He is easily geelong's best kick in their midfield group. Duncan is a really good runner in terms of both speed and endurance. He can also win both contested and uncontested ball. In my opinion he fills a massive need in our list in that he is terrific at linking up play and recruiting him would improve our kicking into the forward fifty significantly. We could do a lot worse, but if he is keen on coming Id much rather wait till he is a free agent then trade for him now as Geelong would want a help to let him go.

 

[raffrox]

No doubt but do we rate Hill??

How confident are we of retaining the pick 5.

How far apart is the pick 5 from Ian Hill?

Before the champs most were wanting Ian Hill with our first, which was around 7 at the time.

We then do get Lobb.

I'm not the best person to ask on draft quality but generally people are saying theres an elite top 7 players in this draft.

I'd hate to miss a Taranto type player for a Logue type player again unless we are getting something great in return and Im not sure Lobb is worth it.

 

[jedi mind tricks]

I'm not the best person to ask on draft quality but generally people are saying theres an elite top 7 players in this draft.

I'd hate to miss a Taranto type player for a Logue type player again unless we are getting something great in return and Im not sure Lobb is worth it.

We screwed ourselves over in that trade

I'd take Taranto over Logue and Cam any day

Quality over quantity

 

[rgauci]

We screwed ourselves over in that trade

I'd take Taranto over Logue and Cam any day

Quality over quantity

Wasn’t going to be Taranto. Was going to be McCluggage after the cards fell. But still, point taken.

Actually didn’t it end up being

Logue, Hamling, McCarthy and Ryan.

 

[UYD 4 Life]

We screwed ourselves over in that trade

I'd take Taranto over Logue and Cam any day

Quality over quantity

Hugh Mcluggage went with our pick.

 

[jedi mind tricks]

That's only because GWS traded up a pick after

Toranto or McCluggage I would have been happy with either

 

[UYD 4 Life]

That's only because GWS traded up a pick after

Toranto or McCluggage I would have been happy with either

Have you written Logue off?

 

[Yeti]

Yep, let's write Logue off after 2 seasons.

Some people are so fickle.

 

[raffrox]

Have you written Logue off?

Logue might end up being a decent player but he won't be as good as Taranto.

Of course I hope I'm wrong.

 

[jedi mind tricks]

Yep, let's write Logue off after 2 seasons.

Some people are so fickle.

Wow! Who's writing off Logue?

 

[Purple Jesus]

Logue might end up being a decent player but he won't be as good as Taranto.

Of course I hope I'm wrong.

Wayyy too early to tell. Logue's hardly played. From his instagram, he's put on a fair bit of muscle.

 

[raffrox]

Wayyy too early to tell. Logue's hardly played. From his instagram, he's put on a fair bit of muscle.

That's fine. You've got your opinion, I've got mine. Which player would I prefer now that I'm confident is going to be a very good player? Taranto.

No one outside of Freo fans would dispute this for a second.

I still stand by us taking top 5 picks to the draft and taking best available instead of getting guys like Lobb.

 

[james brayshaw]

Didn't we also get Darcy and Ryan/Hamling out of that trade?

 

[Yeti]

Didn't we also get Darcy and Ryan/Hamling out of that trade?

You know what they say, quality over quantity