Player Watch #?: Lachie Young - NM trade pick 63 to BL for pick 70 - BL trades S.Martin to WBD - WBD trade LY to NM - welcome LY

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Tas

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"an offer" is singular.

"an offer.......but does not accept that offer", further reinforces singularity, which has been declined.

My reading of this is that the dogs have very weak grounds to apply for a trade pick, if this can be ratified.
The way I read that, he is a free agent as soon as he rejects the third year of being a rookie.
 

Tas

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Yes, there's definitely scope for that stricter interpretation, but what is his free agent status?
Pretty sure once he rejects it he becomes a delisted free agent and he is able to accept any contract with any other club. The other offer afterwards is void if he rejected the third year as a rookie.

It is designed to allow players who are being left as rookies to maximise their ability to become senior players, massive pay difference for them.
 

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"an offer" is singular.

"an offer.......but does not accept that offer", further reinforces singularity, which has been declined.

My reading of this is that the dogs have very weak grounds to apply for a trade pick, if this can be ratified.
Agree. As soon as the offer is declined, the Rookie Player becomes a Free Agent and able to negotiate a senior contract. The alternative interpretation would mean that the Current Club would always have the option to table a senior list offer at any time, which would result in other Clubs being less motivated to negotiate with the Rookie Player for a senior list contract (which cannot be the intention).
 

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As a bush lawyer only, I read it clearly that FA is triggered immediately upon the rejection of any offer of a 3rd year rookie contract. There are no sub-clauses about extraneous circumstances, e.g. subsequent offers, clouding this point.
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Pretty sure once he rejects it he becomes a delisted free agent and he is able to accept any contract with any other club. The other offer afterwards is void if he rejected the third year as a rookie.

It is designed to allow players who are being left as rookies to maximise their ability to become senior players, massive pay difference for them.
Agree. As soon as the offer is declined, the Rookie Player becomes a Free Agent and able to negotiate a senior contract. The alternative interpretation would mean that the Current Club would always have the option to table a senior list offer at any time, which would result in other Clubs being less motivated to negotiate with the Rookie Player for a senior list contract (which cannot be the intention).

Can the bulldogs then decide to match it, as they could under typical FA rules?
 

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Can the bulldogs then decide to match it, as they could under typical FA rules?
No, delisted free agents are unrestricted free agents.

Dogs are going to try and argue they offered him a senior contract after he rejected the rookie spot. We will have to see if the AFL try and screw us or not.
 

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As a bush lawyer only, I read it clearly that FA is triggered immediately upon the rejection of any offer of a 3rd year rookie contract. There are no sub-clauses about extraneous circumstances, e.g. subsequent offers, clouding this point.

Of course you may still choose to play nice with the Dogs in the context of any other deals that are being cooked up behind the scenes, but it seems black and white to me.

From a experience of watching the castle - the dogs haven’t got a leg to stand on.

And tell them they’re dreaming
 

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No matching for a DFA.

Okay, welcome to North Lachie Young.

 

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"an offer" is singular.

"an offer.......but does not accept that offer", further reinforces singularity, which has been declined.

My reading of this is that the dogs have very weak grounds to apply for a trade pick, if this can be ratified.
I agree, its the vibe, its mabo, yeah its the vibe.
 

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Yeh you'd think if there's evidence of the rookie offer he and his agent can argue that they took that as the trigger for his free agency status.

The fact the dogs came back with a senior spot to patch up their loophole ****up should be irrelevant.

As someone said though, this smacks of a pyrrhic victory. We'll whack off about getting one over them as he goes on to play 2 games and gets delisted.
Call their bluff they can keep him.
Who’s it push out instead?
 

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As someone said though, this smacks of a pyrrhic victory. We'll whack off about getting one over them as he goes on to play 2 games and gets delisted.
2 better than none like many we get! (Narrier)

Or play more than a few only to realise they were poor to start with and coincidentally, still are (Sierakowski)
 

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Lauchy young = the forever.
Lachie Young = The guns, having some fun, crazy ladies keep 'em on the run
 

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