Lachlan Hunter

[wian]

Just a beat up, if they bid on him they will end up getting him so they had better be careful. I have heard the club won't go any higher than 3rd round pick.

Good Post. Common sense will hopefully prevail

If there is a better mid fielder available, take the better player and not Hunter. I hope we dont get sucked in if another club does something to bait us by nominating him for a 2nd rounder etc. Make an assessment on what he is really worth and call the other teams bluff

 

[Igloo]

Surely that isn't true? Source?

Was at a state screeniiing, but definitely true. Can't be bothered looking for a link though

 

[100action]

Surely that isn't true? Source?

http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=104832

The 18-year-old dodged and weaved his way around the course in 7.47 seconds, smashing the previous record.

 

[Clay]

http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=104832

An article like that really makes you wonder how he didn't get picked up in the draft.

 

[Mutt]

An article like that really makes you wonder how he didn't get picked up in the draft.

We did good Clay! One for the good guys.

 

[Easty]

An article like that really makes you wonder how he didn't get picked up in the draft.

So much this. Ridiculous that he slipped so far but I'm massively stoked that he did.

 

[Butane]

So much this. Ridiculous that he slipped so far but I'm massively stoked that he did.

Sometimes, it's not just about their agility tests or even their footballing ability. I have an inkling(ok I've heard things) that Dahlhouse was seen as a kid who wouldn't make the next step in professionalism. Especially for his size where hard work would be needed to over come his greatest inadequacies.

 

[Easty]

Sometimes, it's not just about their agility tests or even their footballing ability. I have an inkling(ok I've heard things) that Dahlhouse was seen as a kid who wouldn't make the next step in professionalism. Especially for his size where hard work would be needed to over come his greatest inadequacies.

Perhaps, but amazing all the same. Surely someone that is that athletically gifted and came 3rd in the TAC B&F should've had someone throw a 3rd rounder at him.

 

[Mutt]

Sometimes, it's not just about their agility tests or even their footballing ability. I have an inkling(ok I've heard things) that Dahlhouse was seen as a kid who wouldn't make the next step in professionalism. Especially for his size where hard work would be needed to over come his greatest inadequacies.

Well they got that wrong big-time didn't they!

Thanks for sharing that Butane.

 

[100action]

Sometimes, it's not just about their agility tests or even their footballing ability. I have an inkling(ok I've heard things) that Dahlhouse was seen as a kid who wouldn't make the next step in professionalism. Especially for his size where hard work would be needed to over come his greatest inadequacies.

from reading of various articles, I think the fact that he missed out on vote to allow him a state screening (4 minimum for national combine) and getting a second chance due to his coach using his connections is the making of him. Perhaps wouldnt be the player he is if his drafting process was smooth sailing.

 

[woofles]

Sometimes, it's not just about their agility tests or even their footballing ability. I have an inkling(ok I've heard things) that Dahlhouse was seen as a kid who wouldn't make the next step in professionalism. Especially for his size where hard work would be needed to over come his greatest inadequacies.

Heard a lot of the same things and there are definitley still things that need work

 

[doggies ftw]

Sometimes, it's not just about their agility tests or even their footballing ability. I have an inkling(ok I've heard things) that Dahlhouse was seen as a kid who wouldn't make the next step in professionalism. Especially for his size where hard work would be needed to over come his greatest inadequacies.

Could be, have heard that he enjoys a bit of a drink out in the city every now and then

But he's an absolute gem and its amazing that no one took a punt but us!!!

 

[Snarls Barkley]

Could be, have heard that he enjoys a bit of a drink out in the city every now and then

But he's an absolute gem and its amazing that no one took a punt but us!!!

Even then, we passed on him 3 times in the draft (74- Schofield, 88- Skinner, 89- Hill). We were very fortunate that he was still available at our pick in the rookie draft.

Reckon we were the big winners out of that draft. Wallis, Libba and Dahl are already guns and hopefully JJ can step up as well (early days but he is looking good as well right now).

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

Even then, we passed on him 3 times in the draft (74- Schofield, 88- Skinner, 89- Hill). We were very fortunate that he was still available at our pick in the rookie draft.

Reckon we were the big winners out of that draft. Wallis, Libba and Dahl are already guns and hopefully JJ can step up as well (early days but he is looking good as well right now).

Actually I agree with you, considering it was a draft that was affected by GWS we did ok.

 

[Snarls Barkley]

I wish Lachie Hunter would lay low for a while.

I think if he is nominated before our second rounder we take it. Looks great and would be another guy Macca would love. Hopefully we don't have to though and can get him with the third rounder.

 

[Snarls Barkley]

Actually I agree with you, considering it was a draft that was affected by GWS we did ok.

Yeah couldn't have been better timing with the father-sons. Two top 10 guys (15 at worst) going at 22 and 41 is brilliant.

Shame we didn't have any father sons for the GWS draft last year, although I'm pretty stoked with the guys we got.

 

[paulveed]

Do I understand the situation re Hunter correctly? It is only if one of the three teams ahead of us in round 2 bid on him with their pick would we be forced to use our R2 selection.
Should any later team nominate him as second round we are only obliged to use our R3 pick. If so I would be more than happy with that outcome. Not so sure one way or the other re using our R2 pick. Leave that with the recruiters who know more about what he has to offer.

Then to answer the proposal that the kid should roll over and play dead at the Combine. Why should he? Might be different if we had given him an iron clad commitment to take him. But since we haven't the lad has to do all he can to ensure his own future.

 

[dogwatch]

I think your placement relative to your peers is what is important because of the slight variations in the setup each year (ie different floors, slightly inaccurate measurements, recording devices ie non sandbox conditions), anyway probably splitting hairs in the end.

I find the beep test pretty useless tbh, Clay Smith recorded an elite score yet was out on his feet in the middle of Q3 round 1.

The Beep Test doesn't measure match endurance though. It measures ability to keep going in a sustained burst (specifically the "maximum oxygen uptake"). So doing well in a beep test doesn't mean you should automatically be able to run out four or even three hard quarters in your first AFL match.

Amazing that the world record for the beep test is 29.7!!

 

[Snarls Barkley]

Do I understand the situation re Hunter correctly? It is only if one of the three teams ahead of us in round 2 bid on him with their pick would we be forced to use our R2 selection.
Should any later team nominate him as second round we are only obliged to use our R3 pick. If so I would be more than happy with that outcome. Not so sure one way or the other re using our R2 pick. Leave that with the recruiters who know more about what he has to offer.

Then to answer the proposal that the kid should roll over and play dead at the Combine. Why should he? Might be different if we had given him an iron clad commitment to take him. But since we haven't the lad has to do all he can to ensure his own future.

Yep you've got it right. If any team bids their pick between 7 and 26, we'd be forced to use our second round.

I think all of us suggesting he play dead at the combine are all joking. We all just want to take him as late as possible.

 

[dogwatch]

Do I understand the situation re Hunter correctly? It is only if one of the three teams ahead of us in round 2 bid on him with their pick would we be forced to use our R2 selection.
Should any later team nominate him as second round we are only obliged to use our R3 pick. If so I would be more than happy with that outcome. Not so sure one way or the other re using our R2 pick. Leave that with the recruiters who know more about what he has to offer.

Then to answer the proposal that the kid should roll over and play dead at the Combine. Why should he? Might be different if we had given him an iron clad commitment to take him. But since we haven't the lad has to do all he can to ensure his own future.

Assuming for a moment that the draft order stays as it is (it won't, but currently we have picks 5,6, 27,46,47) then if GC,GWS or Melbourne bid with picks 1-4 we would be required to take him with pick 5 (not 6) or lose him to whoever bid. If anyone with picks 7-26 bids for him we'd have to take him with our second rounder (27) or lose him. That means a club would have to bid their first round selection to get him (unlikely) or else GC, GWS or Melb with their second rounder (slightly more likely, especially as Melbourne have 3 earlier picks).

Agree that he shouldn't play dead at the Combine (which could be seen as draft tampering) but I think it was mostly meant as a tongue in cheek suggestion.

EDIT: Sorry Snarling I didn't see your reply in time.

 

[Werewolf]

If we have to take Hunter with a 2nd round pick, we should. The average pick 20+ player generally does not turn out to be a gun. Hunter appears very capable and you can always do with more goalkicking midfielders

 

[Dry Rot]

FWIW, where do non-Dogs fans place Hunter in a fair draft ie forget F/S?

 

[dogwatch]

FWIW, where do non-Dogs fans place Hunter in a fair draft ie forget F/S?

I know I don't qualify to answer that but I will anyway. (Especially as you won't have many readers from your target group!)

I'd guess about 25-35 on latest reports. That would make our 2nd rounder (27) a marginal call but our 3rd rounder (46) would be good value.

 

[Tommycash]

Just out of interest what determines priorities in F/S bidding.
For example if Melbourne were to bid on Hunter, how does that affect their own F/S pick, and if GC were to bid on all of Hunter, Viney and Daniher and if dogs dees and bombers all passed (yeah i know it wont happen just hypothetically ) what would be the result, does anyone know

Well clubs have to nominate players at the picks they'd take them. For instance GWS would have to say we'll take Viney with our 1st rounder, Daniher with our second and Hunter with our third. Then if we all pass, they have those first 3 picks locked in stone on those players. If Melb bid on Hunter, and then it arises they'll have to use that pick to get Viney I think they then have a choice of who to get, if they pick Viney then it resumes as if they hadn't bid.

All we need is for no first round bids and none of GC, GWS and Melb to bid on him and he'll be at least our third rounder, maybe better depending on what bid someone says they'll put on him if any. We'll find out tomorrow at 2pm though!

 

[Clay]

I think that Lachie is going to be a solid midfielder or flanker who can kick a few goals. Elite agility, like he showed yesterday, is really handy for a guy around the sticks or even in congestion (see Dahlhaus). Agility translates into short burst acceleration (ie 5 to 10 metres) which is the most important kind of 'speed'.

I'll be really pleased to see him come to the club, and anything 46 or later would be a bargain.