Lack of Respect for the History of our Great Game by Interstate Clubs

South of the Yarra

Norm Smith Medallist
Jul 23, 2006
5,445
3,190
Victoria
AFL Club
Collingwood
There seems to be an absolute lack of respect for the history of our great game by some Interstate clubs supporters simply because their clubs were not present.

Should Carlton forget about champions such as Nicholls and Jesaulenko because they only played in 12 team competitions?

Should the legends of the Colliers and Coventry’s be wiped from the record books because they played iagaindt ‘suburban’ teams’ ?

Should the Coleman medal be renamed the ‘Kennedy Medal’ because the great man played in a time of ‘amateur’ footballers and should Reynolds exploits be ignored?

Perhaps Bunton and Murray should be thrown on the scrap heap.

Maybe the immortal that is EJ Whitten should be relegated to suburban footballer and forget about Charlie Sutton.

Farmer and Goggin should be removed because they were not part of the AFL. Even Ablett’s 9 goal GF heroics would be wiped.

Matthews the greatest of them all would not be considered with the modern greats because he played in pre AFL

Barrassi and the immortal Demons teams of the 50s and 60s should not be celebrated due to the the fact they didn’t play in the expansion. The Norm Smith medal should be renamed

Grieg and Dempsey only played part time and could not possibly rank with the greats of today

Forget the Jack Dyer medal, Tigers fans should ignore his legend and rename it the Dusty medal. As for Hart and Bartlett they would not rate.

Pratt’s 150 and Nash’s heroics do not count

Baldock and Stewart ??? Who ???

And well we are at let’s rename ‘Up there Cazaly’ - Up there Modra
and the Jock McHale medal the ‘Simpson Medal’. No matter what era, no matter how long ago, a champion of the game is a champion of the game. They were the best on a level playing field against their peers. A Premiership whether Essendon in 1897 or West Coasts in 2018 was just as important. The history of our great game has been carved and written and for those who don’t like it the answer is simple. Stop whinging about our past and go and make your own history.
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

Carringbush2010

Norm Smith Medallist
Jun 6, 2016
5,318
3,024
Perth
AFL Club
Collingwood
Other Teams
Pines Football Club
Whilst agree with the sentiment of the op, you need to view it from a non vic supporters shoes. You've certainly opened a can of worms here!

For mine it's a tradition vs "it's our turn now" mantra even if subconsciously. And maybe rightly so, if the game is going to grow it needs more than just it's origin centralization.

Regardless of the overwhelming market being vic the game will not expand without foreign participation of those outside be it players and supporters.
 

pablo668

Club Legend
May 3, 2007
2,152
2,385
Claremont
AFL Club
Fremantle
Other Teams
Claremont Tigers
Said no one ever.......the bit about disregarding the Victorian contribution to the history of the game that is.

What on earth brought this on?

The WAFL and SANFL have history too you know, fascinating histories, all I've ever wanted was for these to be on a more even keel with the Victorian history. The AFL as an organisation is not very good at this.
 

DaveEgoat

Senior List
Mar 29, 2019
172
420
AFL Club
Carlton
Isn’t it funny how so many State of origin fixtures during the 80’s and early 90’s were played in SA and WA.

That’s because playing Victoria at the MCG was a guarantee of utter anilihation

Yet those games at Subiaco and Football Park we’re always thrillers. We basically conceded home ground advantage year after year to make everyone else look good

Feel to free to disagree. But do your research first. You know I’m right
 

SaltPeter

"I’m a professional bulls**tter"
Jan 6, 2018
6,278
6,943
AFL Club
Adelaide
Other Teams
Norwood
There seems to be an absolute lack of respect for the history of our great game by some Interstate clubs supporters simply because their clubs were not present.

Should Carlton forget about champions such as Nicholls and Jesaulenko because they only played in 12 team competitions? Yes

Should the legends of the Colliers and Coventry’s be wiped from the record books because they played iagaindt ‘suburban’ teams’ ? Yes

Should the Coleman medal be renamed the ‘Kennedy Medal’ because the great man played in a time of ‘amateur’ footballers and should Reynolds exploits be ignored? Yes

Perhaps Bunton and Murray should be thrown on the scrap heap. Murray, yes

Maybe the immortal that is EJ Whitten should be relegated to suburban footballer and forget about Charlie Sutton. Yes

Farmer and Goggin should be removed because they were not part of the AFL. Even Ablett’s 9 goal GF heroics would be wiped. Goggin, yes

Matthews the greatest of them all would not be considered with the modern greats because he played in pre AFL? Yes

Barrassi and the immortal Demons teams of the 50s and 60s should not be celebrated due to the the fact they didn’t play in the expansion. The Norm Smith medal should be renamed? Yes

Grieg and Dempsey only played part time and could not possibly rank with the greats of today? Pair of spuds, yes

Forget the Jack Dyer medal, Tigers fans should ignore his legend and rename it the Dusty medal. As for Hart and Bartlett they would not rate? Bartlett's a flog, fu** him

Pratt’s 150 and Nash’s heroics do not count? Of course not

Baldock and Stewart ??? Who ??? Exactly, and who cares

And well we are at let’s rename ‘Up there Cazaly’ - Up there Modra? Godra please
and the Jock McHale medal the ‘Simpson Medal’. No matter what era, no matter how long ago, a champion of the game is a champion of the game. They were the best on a level playing field against their peers. A Premiership whether Essendon in 1897 or West Coasts in 2018 was just as important. The history of our great game has been carved and written and for those who don’t like it the answer is simple. Stop whinging about our past and go and make your own history. Seems like you're the only 1 having a good whinge
You seem a little tired and emotional. Nice tanty friend. I've answered your questions in the quote above. Enjoy :thumbsu:
 

bzparkes

Brownlow Medallist
May 2, 2006
10,494
6,130
Sydney
AFL Club
West Coast
Other Teams
East Fremantle
Isn’t it funny how so many State of origin fixtures during the 80’s and early 90’s were played in SA and WA.

That’s because playing Victoria at the MCG was a guarantee of utter anilihation

Yet those games at Subiaco and Football Park we’re always thrillers. We basically conceded home ground advantage year after year to make everyone else look good

Feel to free to disagree. But do your research first. You know I’m right
Sounds pretty familiar, like higher places interstate teams playing grand finals at the lower team’s home ground...
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

Carringbush2010

Norm Smith Medallist
Jun 6, 2016
5,318
3,024
Perth
AFL Club
Collingwood
Other Teams
Pines Football Club
Uh if we really want to get get down to the nitty gritty of it all then yes and shoot me down if you will, the state of origin of this game is the state of origin of this game. We all know what that is.

Boil it down and dissect all you will the facts can't be changed. Victoria IS the state of origin of Australian football, as far as the op is concerned well yeah there is a sentiment of "wah f u tradition"
 

sprockets

Premiership Player
Oct 15, 2004
3,596
4,394
Melbourne
AFL Club
Richmond
Other Teams
Richmond
Wasn't the VFL struggling financially before it expanded ?

Either way none of this should matter, as its 2019.
It wasn't struggling financially, it was just that the bottom teams couldn't compete financially with the top teams and the top teams were paying overs for far too long battling each other, so they decided the answer was to bring in more moola from interstate. Crowds and tv watchers were always high.

The AFL is simply a rebadged VFL with some interstate teams added, which is something interstate supporters, ie those from outside Vic, have never been able to grasp. Note that NONE of those teams existed before they became part of the AFL, so really, interstate league premierships mean zip in regards to AFL.

As for the OP, who really cares what supporters of other teams think.
 

kozi

Hall of Famer
Oct 14, 2011
38,146
41,777
living rent free
AFL Club
Richmond
Other Teams
Dubs, United
Interstate clubs are like that weird friend you invite to a party who gets there late. Everyone else is already happy and drunk and they just complain and are generally unhappy with the circumstances.
 

Mcgovernator

Premium Platinum
May 24, 2016
204
805
AFL Club
West Coast
There seems to be an absolute lack of respect for the history of our great game by some Interstate clubs supporters simply because their clubs were not present.

Should Carlton forget about champions such as Nicholls and Jesaulenko because they only played in 12 team competitions?

Should the legends of the Colliers and Coventry’s be wiped from the record books because they played iagaindt ‘suburban’ teams’ ?

Should the Coleman medal be renamed the ‘Kennedy Medal’ because the great man played in a time of ‘amateur’ footballers and should Reynolds exploits be ignored?

Perhaps Bunton and Murray should be thrown on the scrap heap.

Maybe the immortal that is EJ Whitten should be relegated to suburban footballer and forget about Charlie Sutton.

Farmer and Goggin should be removed because they were not part of the AFL. Even Ablett’s 9 goal GF heroics would be wiped.

Matthews the greatest of them all would not be considered with the modern greats because he played in pre AFL

Barrassi and the immortal Demons teams of the 50s and 60s should not be celebrated due to the the fact they didn’t play in the expansion. The Norm Smith medal should be renamed

Grieg and Dempsey only played part time and could not possibly rank with the greats of today

Forget the Jack Dyer medal, Tigers fans should ignore his legend and rename it the Dusty medal. As for Hart and Bartlett they would not rate.

Pratt’s 150 and Nash’s heroics do not count

Baldock and Stewart ??? Who ???

And well we are at let’s rename ‘Up there Cazaly’ - Up there Modra
and the Jock McHale medal the ‘Simpson Medal’. No matter what era, no matter how long ago, a champion of the game is a champion of the game. They were the best on a level playing field against their peers. A Premiership whether Essendon in 1897 or West Coasts in 2018 was just as important. The history of our great game has been carved and written and for those who don’t like it the answer is simple. Stop whinging about our past and go and make your own history.
No idea where you’re getting this info from no ‘interstate’ team is showing lack of respect to these greats of the game, you need to get off bigfooty and go have a lay down you silly old fart
 

The_Reaper

Hall of Famer
Jan 26, 2006
40,132
30,940
Perth
AFL Club
West Coast
Other Teams
East Fremantle
Isn’t it funny how so many State of origin fixtures during the 80’s and early 90’s were played in SA and WA.

That’s because playing Victoria at the MCG was a guarantee of utter anilihation

Yet those games at Subiaco and Football Park we’re always thrillers. We basically conceded home ground advantage year after year to make everyone else look good

Feel to free to disagree. But do your research first. You know I’m right
And likewise the Melbourne Vic clubs need to rig it so they can play finals at the MCG
 
Top Bottom