Lack of Respect for the History of our Great Game by Interstate Clubs

[South of the Yarra]

There seems to be an absolute lack of respect for the history of our great game by some Interstate clubs supporters simply because their clubs were not present.

Should Carlton forget about champions such as Nicholls and Jesaulenko because they only played in 12 team competitions?

Should the legends of the Colliers and Coventry’s be wiped from the record books because they played iagaindt ‘suburban’ teams’ ?

Should the Coleman medal be renamed the ‘Kennedy Medal’ because the great man played in a time of ‘amateur’ footballers and should Reynolds exploits be ignored?

Perhaps Bunton and Murray should be thrown on the scrap heap.

Maybe the immortal that is EJ Whitten should be relegated to suburban footballer and forget about Charlie Sutton.

Farmer and Goggin should be removed because they were not part of the AFL. Even Ablett’s 9 goal GF heroics would be wiped.

Matthews the greatest of them all would not be considered with the modern greats because he played in pre AFL

Barrassi and the immortal Demons teams of the 50s and 60s should not be celebrated due to the the fact they didn’t play in the expansion. The Norm Smith medal should be renamed

Grieg and Dempsey only played part time and could not possibly rank with the greats of today

Forget the Jack Dyer medal, Tigers fans should ignore his legend and rename it the Dusty medal. As for Hart and Bartlett they would not rate.

Pratt’s 150 and Nash’s heroics do not count

Baldock and Stewart ??? Who ???

And well we are at let’s rename ‘Up there Cazaly’ - Up there Modra
and the Jock McHale medal the ‘Simpson Medal’. No matter what era, no matter how long ago, a champion of the game is a champion of the game. They were the best on a level playing field against their peers. A Premiership whether Essendon in 1897 or West Coasts in 2018 was just as important. The history of our great game has been carved and written and for those who don’t like it the answer is simple. Stop whinging about our past and go and make your own history.

 

[BF Tiger]

This will end well.

Maybe the AFL, as guardians and keepers of the game, should make a better fist of recognising interstate achievements.

 

[Cotchins Hair Piece]

I’m always telling people that Gold Coast supporters don’t respect Woewodin’s Brownlow medal. About time someone was on the same page as me.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Whilst agree with the sentiment of the op, you need to view it from a non vic supporters shoes. You've certainly opened a can of worms here!

For mine it's a tradition vs "it's our turn now" mantra even if subconsciously. And maybe rightly so, if the game is going to grow it needs more than just it's origin centralization.

Regardless of the overwhelming market being vic the game will not expand without foreign participation of those outside be it players and supporters.

 

[The King!]

lol why are non Victorian sides the interstate teams?

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

I think this is the reason they don't appreciate the Grand Final being at the MCG too! Disrespectful!

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Respect my clubs history by acknowledging our premierships then I will acknowledge the State league premierships of the VFL

 

[pablo668]

Said no one ever.......the bit about disregarding the Victorian contribution to the history of the game that is.

What on earth brought this on?

The WAFL and SANFL have history too you know, fascinating histories, all I've ever wanted was for these to be on a more even keel with the Victorian history. The AFL as an organisation is not very good at this.

 

[DaveEgoat]

Isn’t it funny how so many State of origin fixtures during the 80’s and early 90’s were played in SA and WA.

That’s because playing Victoria at the MCG was a guarantee of utter anilihation

Yet those games at Subiaco and Football Park we’re always thrillers. We basically conceded home ground advantage year after year to make everyone else look good

Feel to free to disagree. But do your research first. You know I’m right

 

[SaltPeter]

There seems to be an absolute lack of respect for the history of our great game by some Interstate clubs supporters simply because their clubs were not present.

Should Carlton forget about champions such as Nicholls and Jesaulenko because they only played in 12 team competitions? Yes

Should the legends of the Colliers and Coventry’s be wiped from the record books because they played iagaindt ‘suburban’ teams’ ? Yes

Should the Coleman medal be renamed the ‘Kennedy Medal’ because the great man played in a time of ‘amateur’ footballers and should Reynolds exploits be ignored? Yes

Perhaps Bunton and Murray should be thrown on the scrap heap. Murray, yes

Maybe the immortal that is EJ Whitten should be relegated to suburban footballer and forget about Charlie Sutton. Yes

Farmer and Goggin should be removed because they were not part of the AFL. Even Ablett’s 9 goal GF heroics would be wiped. Goggin, yes

Matthews the greatest of them all would not be considered with the modern greats because he played in pre AFL? Yes

Barrassi and the immortal Demons teams of the 50s and 60s should not be celebrated due to the the fact they didn’t play in the expansion. The Norm Smith medal should be renamed? Yes

Grieg and Dempsey only played part time and could not possibly rank with the greats of today? Pair of spuds, yes

Forget the Jack Dyer medal, Tigers fans should ignore his legend and rename it the Dusty medal. As for Hart and Bartlett they would not rate? Bartlett's a flog, * him

Pratt’s 150 and Nash’s heroics do not count? Of course not

Baldock and Stewart ??? Who ??? Exactly, and who cares

And well we are at let’s rename ‘Up there Cazaly’ - Up there Modra? Godra please
and the Jock McHale medal the ‘Simpson Medal’. No matter what era, no matter how long ago, a champion of the game is a champion of the game. They were the best on a level playing field against their peers. A Premiership whether Essendon in 1897 or West Coasts in 2018 was just as important. The history of our great game has been carved and written and for those who don’t like it the answer is simple. Stop whinging about our past and go and make your own history. Seems like you're the only 1 having a good whinge

You seem a little tired and emotional. Nice tanty friend. I've answered your questions in the quote above. Enjoy

 

[bzparkes]

Isn’t it funny how so many State of origin fixtures during the 80’s and early 90’s were played in SA and WA.

That’s because playing Victoria at the MCG was a guarantee of utter anilihation

Yet those games at Subiaco and Football Park we’re always thrillers. We basically conceded home ground advantage year after year to make everyone else look good

Feel to free to disagree. But do your research first. You know I’m right

Sounds pretty familiar, like higher places interstate teams playing grand finals at the lower team’s home ground...

 

[DaveEgoat]

Case in point. The last State of origin. Victoria vs the REST OF AUSTRALIA. At the G. Yet another demolition. We own Aussie Rules.

Be grateful you’ve been allowed onto the big boys table and move on

 

[DaveEgoat]

Sounds pretty familiar, like higher places interstate teams playing grand finals at the lower team’s home ground...

The eagles don’t exist if it wasn’t for the VFL. Just a thank you will do the trick here

 

[happy_eagle]

If you weren't alive to see it, its basically meaningless.

Clubs that endlessly crap on about how great the 1950s were obviously don't have a lot going on right now.

 

[DaveEgoat]

If you weren't alive to see it, its basically meaningless.

Clubs that endlessly crap on about how great the 1950s were obviously don't have a lot going on right now.

Isnt it amazing how non Victorian supporters forget that we wouldn’t have a national competition if it wasn’t for the VFL

 

[Carringbush2010]

Uh if we really want to get get down to the nitty gritty of it all then yes and shoot me down if you will, the state of origin of this game is the state of origin of this game. We all know what that is.

Boil it down and dissect all you will the facts can't be changed. Victoria IS the state of origin of Australian football, as far as the op is concerned well yeah there is a sentiment of "wah f u tradition"

 

[happy_eagle]

Isnt it amazing how non Victorian supporters forget that we wouldn’t have a national competition if it wasn’t for the VFL

Wasn't the VFL struggling financially before it expanded ?

Either way none of this should matter, as its 2019.

 

[South of the Yarra]

If you weren't alive to see it, its basically meaningless.

Clubs that endlessly crap on about how great the 1950s were obviously don't have a lot going on right now.

I am assuming 92 and 94 no longer count as 5 of today’s clubs did not exist then. ????

 

[happy_eagle]

I am assuming 92 and 94 no longer count as 5 of today’s clubs did not exist then. ????

I wasn't alive for one of them, so to me personally it holds little weight.

 

[sprockets]

Wasn't the VFL struggling financially before it expanded ?

Either way none of this should matter, as its 2019.

It wasn't struggling financially, it was just that the bottom teams couldn't compete financially with the top teams and the top teams were paying overs for far too long battling each other, so they decided the answer was to bring in more moola from interstate. Crowds and tv watchers were always high.

The AFL is simply a rebadged VFL with some interstate teams added, which is something interstate supporters, ie those from outside Vic, have never been able to grasp. Note that NONE of those teams existed before they became part of the AFL, so really, interstate league premierships mean zip in regards to AFL.

As for the OP, who really cares what supporters of other teams think.

 

[_jrtp09_]

lol why are non Victorian sides the interstate teams?

... because they’re non Victorian. Please try and keep up.

 

[kozi]

Interstate clubs are like that weird friend you invite to a party who gets there late. Everyone else is already happy and drunk and they just complain and are generally unhappy with the circumstances.

 

[Mcgovernator]

There seems to be an absolute lack of respect for the history of our great game by some Interstate clubs supporters simply because their clubs were not present.

Should Carlton forget about champions such as Nicholls and Jesaulenko because they only played in 12 team competitions?

Should the legends of the Colliers and Coventry’s be wiped from the record books because they played iagaindt ‘suburban’ teams’ ?

Should the Coleman medal be renamed the ‘Kennedy Medal’ because the great man played in a time of ‘amateur’ footballers and should Reynolds exploits be ignored?

Perhaps Bunton and Murray should be thrown on the scrap heap.

Maybe the immortal that is EJ Whitten should be relegated to suburban footballer and forget about Charlie Sutton.

Farmer and Goggin should be removed because they were not part of the AFL. Even Ablett’s 9 goal GF heroics would be wiped.

Matthews the greatest of them all would not be considered with the modern greats because he played in pre AFL

Barrassi and the immortal Demons teams of the 50s and 60s should not be celebrated due to the the fact they didn’t play in the expansion. The Norm Smith medal should be renamed

Grieg and Dempsey only played part time and could not possibly rank with the greats of today

Forget the Jack Dyer medal, Tigers fans should ignore his legend and rename it the Dusty medal. As for Hart and Bartlett they would not rate.

Pratt’s 150 and Nash’s heroics do not count

Baldock and Stewart ??? Who ???

And well we are at let’s rename ‘Up there Cazaly’ - Up there Modra
and the Jock McHale medal the ‘Simpson Medal’. No matter what era, no matter how long ago, a champion of the game is a champion of the game. They were the best on a level playing field against their peers. A Premiership whether Essendon in 1897 or West Coasts in 2018 was just as important. The history of our great game has been carved and written and for those who don’t like it the answer is simple. Stop whinging about our past and go and make your own history.

No idea where you’re getting this info from no ‘interstate’ team is showing lack of respect to these greats of the game, you need to get off bigfooty and go have a lay down you silly old fart

 

[The_Reaper]

Isn’t it funny how so many State of origin fixtures during the 80’s and early 90’s were played in SA and WA.

That’s because playing Victoria at the MCG was a guarantee of utter anilihation

Yet those games at Subiaco and Football Park we’re always thrillers. We basically conceded home ground advantage year after year to make everyone else look good

Feel to free to disagree. But do your research first. You know I’m right

And likewise the Melbourne Vic clubs need to rig it so they can play finals at the MCG

 

[Macpotata]

Nonsense. And interstate clubs are apart of '' our '' history.