Great OP. I agree wholeheartedly.
Interstate clubs should be thankful they even get to play in our league.
Interstate clubs should be thankful they even get to play in our league.
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Stuff this ridiculous thread...let's scrap afl x and give this a goI have actually wondered about something similar.
4 teams (4 sets of goal posts)
9 players per team
1 ball
Let's be honest. North Melbourne should be an interstate club. The sooner they are shipped to tassie the better. They are the ugly cousin of the Victorian clubs who we a pity.Well you should as North Melbourne would have gone belly up years ago without them.
Who?Actually I do have a point that there are many that are selectively dismissive of the history of our great game.
That is true to an extent. As to the why though, we outside of Victoria who don't necessarily only follow the AFL and have strong ties to the previous leagues have had the AFL foisted on to us as the top league and also as the custodian of the game as such, as well as the main governing body. Both things I could do without to be honest.Why? That's the job of the various non-Vic footy codes
Can’t tell if this is serious?Let's be honest. North Melbourne should be an interstate club. The sooner they are shipped to tassie the better. They are the ugly cousin of the Victorian clubs who we a pity.
That is true to an extent. As to the why though, we outside of Victoria who don't necessarily only follow the AFL and have strong ties to the previous leagues have had the AFL foisted on to us as the top league and also as the custodian of the game as such, as well as the main governing body. Both things I could do without to be honest.
Therefore it would be nice if the AFL was a bit less Victoria centric in its view of the history of the game nation wide.
Yep. As mentioned earlier, we are the only one who existed before though.Out of curiosity, why doesn’t other leagues such as the WAFL and the SANFL also get recognised? Port Adelaide is basically a direct team from there to AFL aren’t they?
I'm not sure either. I do think they should go to Tassie but perhaps without the same venomCan’t tell if this is serious?
Yes but the intro of WC (not sure about Freo) has rejuvenated WA footy
Ok, good question, complaining and criticising is easy, coming up with solutions quite a bit harder.What exactly do you want them to do?
Some valid points, but then this drivel about SA...you seriously understate the financial health and strength in a strict football sense of the SANFL back then.
If I were god for a day I'd remove any custodian or governing status from the AFL. Make it the responsibility of an Australia wide body instead. Leave the AFL to manage what is increasingly becoming an entertainment business rather than a sports league.
That is true to an extent. As to the why though, we outside of Victoria who don't necessarily only follow the AFL and have strong ties to the previous leagues have had the AFL foisted on to us as the top league and also as the custodian of the game as such, as well as the main governing body. Both things I could do without to be honest.
Therefore it would be nice if the AFL was a bit less Victoria centric in its view of the history of the game nation wide.
What part is drivel?
The SA was healthy, I thought I said that. It was a well run bush league.
It was also a second tier competition with no prospect of ever achieving the top level or becoming a genuine professional sport. Unless it found a way into the VFL.
This inconvenient truth tramples on the other myth, the one about SA and WA football being of equal standard to the VFL. They simply were not.
Most of the time VFL club sides won the games they played against WAFL and SANFL sides, at least two thirds, but what is forgotten is that the scorelines were what you would see in any game between two top league sides.
While there may be alternatives, it is doubtful that they would represent a better outcome.
The AFL came into existence as an expansion of the VFL. It might have been achieved in other ways, but that was how it happened.
Let us also not forget the attitude of the "previous leagues". The WAFL was awarded the first licence in WA. And immediately put it up for sale to the highest bidder. Hardly a glowing reason for the AFL to be more inclusive of WAFL sensibilities.
I assume you're talking about the Premiers' challenge matches. You're missing the part where the Vic Clubs got on the piss on Grand Final night and stopped drinking, briefly, on the morning of the exhibition games. While their WA and SA counterparts trained through "to show the Vics".
That may or may not have happened, but then that would be their own fault for not taking things seriously.I assume you're talking about the Premiers' challenge matches. You're missing the part where the Vic Clubs got on the piss on Grand Final night and stopped drinking, briefly, on the morning of the exhibition games. While their WA and SA counterparts trained through "to show the Vics".
Seems a decent enough bloke and knows a fair bit of stuff I think. I do not cross swords with him lightly.I really want to argue with you but I just love Laphroaig too damn much
Let us not forget how many WAFL and SANL and Tassie players were playing for said VFL. There were a lot.This inconvenient truth tramples on the other myth, the one about SA and WA football being of equal standard to the VFL. They simply were not.
Really!!!..Do you really think that or are you just spruiking for reactions. Shallowest comment on this thread.Great OP. I agree wholeheartedly.
Interstate clubs should be thankful they even get to play in our league.
There seems to be an absolute lack of respect for the history of our great game by some Interstate clubs supporters simply because their clubs were not present.
Should Carlton forget about champions such as Nicholls and Jesaulenko because they only played in 12 team competitions?
Should the legends of the Colliers and Coventry’s be wiped from the record books because they played iagaindt ‘suburban’ teams’ ?
Should the Coleman medal be renamed the ‘Kennedy Medal’ because the great man played in a time of ‘amateur’ footballers and should Reynolds exploits be ignored?
Perhaps Bunton and Murray should be thrown on the scrap heap.
Maybe the immortal that is EJ Whitten should be relegated to suburban footballer and forget about Charlie Sutton.
Farmer and Goggin should be removed because they were not part of the AFL. Even Ablett’s 9 goal GF heroics would be wiped.
Matthews the greatest of them all would not be considered with the modern greats because he played in pre AFL
Barrassi and the immortal Demons teams of the 50s and 60s should not be celebrated due to the the fact they didn’t play in the expansion. The Norm Smith medal should be renamed
Grieg and Dempsey only played part time and could not possibly rank with the greats of today
Forget the Jack Dyer medal, Tigers fans should ignore his legend and rename it the Dusty medal. As for Hart and Bartlett they would not rate.
Pratt’s 150 and Nash’s heroics do not count
Baldock and Stewart ??? Who ???
And well we are at let’s rename ‘Up there Cazaly’ - Up there Modra
and the Jock McHale medal the ‘Simpson Medal’. No matter what era, no matter how long ago, a champion of the game is a champion of the game. They were the best on a level playing field against their peers. A Premiership whether Essendon in 1897 or West Coasts in 2018 was just as important. The history of our great game has been carved and written and for those who don’t like it the answer is simple. Stop whinging about our past and go and make your own history.