Player Watch Rory Laird

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And the outcome is he walks?
Then he walks

In any negotiation/contract situation both sides must have a position where they say no deal - otherwise one party starts from a negative position. The AFC cant start negotiations based around '' but he might walk''

I am glad Laird signed and I am happy for him to play for us - I hope there are clauses where we as the AFC arent paying dead money
 
This is really a six year deal though, not many players get a contract through until 33 unless they are absolute guns.

I don't have a real problem with it but I think we had to probably settle on paying overs.
If the deal is front loaded I expect him to be traded at the back end of the deal. It may have been a smarter strategy to hold off on contract negotiations until we see how Pedlar, Berry and Schoenberg progress this year. If they star this season (Schoenberg has shown a lot already) that weakens Laird's bargaining position. We also will be getting a top 3 draft pick mid end of year (Horne I hope). Maybe Laird saw the writing on the wall and was the one that pushed to get it done now. Smart by him and his management if they didn't drop their price to get it done before the season starts. What also strengthened Laird's position was whether the club believed Crouch will take up free agency.
 
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The AFC social media team has been on point for the past 2 years. Very entertaining delivery.

Josh is just a tri-hard who tries to copy the Crows ideas and the Adelaide United guy is just a Port Adelaide douche bag.

Really bad take.
And yet they're both better than the AFC guy, but not to worry.... You do a very good job too mate.
 

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If the deal is front loaded I expect him to be traded at the back end of the deal. It may have been a smarter strategy to hold off on contract negotiations until we see how Pedlar, Berry and Schoenberg progress this year. If they star this season (Schoenberg has shown a lot already) that weakens Laird's bargaining position. We also will be getting a top 3 draft pick mid end of year (Horne I hope). Maybe Laird saw the writing on the wall and was the one that pushed to get it done now. Smart by him and his management if they didn't drop their price to get it done before the season starts. What also strengthened Laird's position was whether the club believed Crouch will take up free agency.

Agreed. I don't see the benefit on our end signing him early. Could have easily waited and I doubt his value would have risen in that time
 
Agreed. I don't see the benefit on our end signing him early. Could have easily waited and I doubt his value would have risen in that time
Depends how much we signed him for.

You would hope by guaranteeing him 5 years, it would be for a discounted amount & he also gets to stay at home.

Also, I gather would be lower with covid rates.
 
If you're a dual AA before you hit free agency you will get at least a 5 year deal, weather it's your original club or a different one, 3 year deals for star players approaching free agency will pretty much be obsolete now.

This will be league wide, not just something the AFC will deal with.

At this point, even if you're a painfully mediocre player, you can pick up 5 year deals through FA.
 
There is no decent argument as to why this is bad business. Lot of wannabe list managers around.
There is plenty of decent argument as to why you do not give a 5 year deal to a 27 year old.

Wannabe list manager?

Are you suggesting our current list manager isn't a wannabe one?
 
At this point, even if you're a painfully mediocre player, you can pick up 5 year deals through FA.
Aidan Corr, Brandon Ellis and Rory Atkins got 5 year deals, CEY got 4. Zac Williams is turning 27 this year the the Blues had to give him a 6 year deal to get him over.
 
Aidan Corr, Brandon Ellis and Rory Atkins got 5 year deals, CEY got 4. Zac Williams is turning 27 this year the the Blues had to give him a 6 year deal to get him over.
From poorly run clubs.
 

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There is plenty of decent argument as to why you do not give a 5 year deal to a 27 year old.

Wannabe list manager?

Are you suggesting our current list manager isn't a wannabe one?
Even one as good as Laird ??
 
It's a year too long for mine, but if you're going to give any senior player on our list a 5 year deal its Laird.
The point being we shouldn't be giving 5 year deals to anyone over 24 at the stage we are at as a club.
 
The point being we shouldn't be giving 5 year deals to anyone over 24 at the stage we are at as a club.
Disagree, you pick the right ones.

That said, I wouldn't be giving out too many more. Maybe Crouch, that's it.
 
Disagree, you pick the right ones.

That said, I wouldn't be giving out too many more. Maybe Crouch, that's it.
Not at the moment, where we are at as a club. In essence Laird is now being paid by us until the end of 2026.

I certainly wouldn't entertain a 5 year deal to Matt Crouch. IMO if a Crouch was going to get 5 years at our club, it should have been Brad not Matt. Even then you wouldn't have done it due to Brad's injury history.
 
Not at the moment, where we are at as a club. In essence Laird is now being paid by us until the end of 2026.

I certainly wouldn't entertain a 5 year deal to Matt Crouch. IMO if a Crouch was going to get 5 years at our club, it should have been Brad not Matt. Even then you wouldn't have done it due to Brad's injury history.
Matt's been the better Crouch over the journey however he's the easier to replace.

You could probably give him 4 with slightly higher coin.
 
Matt's been the better Crouch over the journey however he's the easier to replace.

You could probably give him 4 with slightly higher coin.
Only due to durabilty. Brad has far more ability than what Matt does.

Matt should have been the one we tried to shop, not Brad.

Anyway, I digress, this thread is about Rory Laird after all.
 
Only due to durabilty. Brad has far more ability than what Matt does.

Matt should have been the one we tried to shop, not Brad.

Anyway, I digress, this thread is about Rory Laird after all.
His lack of durability means he can't do things he used to.
 

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