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I rewatched the battle scene, because i like it, again. When she comes in i thought to myself, ya know what Peter, she should just smash thanos into pieces. When they fought she was toying with him, smirking even. Then when
Thanos grabbed the stone and put it in his clenched fist, she realised oh s**t and was punched very hard
. OK then. But you supposed to be the most powerful!




I guess for me personally in the end i didnt much like her movie, but does it cause outrage in me? No.
Two things.

Superhero movies have little resemblance to the real world. They rely on characters having supernatural powers that fluctuate hugely in power in order to create dramatic tension.

Recently we have recently seen movies depict tiny female characters destroying large male characters. Which is clearly unrealistic.

Combine the two and we see supernatural female kickass characters.
 

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So it's interesting watching this cultural shift through the eyes of a pre-pubescent boy (my son). He loves all of the Superhero characters - male or female. Black or white. Straight or gay. In other words, he doesn't care what they are - he cares that the character is kick-arse. I know a sample of one means jack but if that's the result of the this so-called agenda, then can someone explain why that's bad?

Seems to me people are jumping at shadows.
 

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So it's interesting watching this cultural shift through the eyes of a pre-pubescent boy (my son). He loves all of the Superhero characters - male or female. Black or white. Straight or gay. In other words, he doesn't care what they are - he cares that the character is kick-arse. I know a sample of one means jack but if that's the result of the this so-called agenda, then can someone explain why that's bad?

Seems to me people are jumping at shadows.
Mine too. Doesn't think or care about colour, gender etc. Perhaps one day the kids of today will as they get older.
 

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using kittle kids in this debate is disingenuous. kids dont care and havent the capacity to ponder beyond the superficial. this is an adult topic.
You undersell kids. My son very much understands the concepts of race, gender, sexuality. Point is he thinks there's no reason why you should discriminate on that basis and for him, it's perfectly natural to see a black, lesbian Superhero (is there one?) as a kick arse character because all sorts of people are being portrayed as kick-arse superheroes.

I go back to my point - what's the issue because I'm failing to see it.
 

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You undersell kids. My son very much understands the concepts of race, gender, sexuality. Point is he thinks there's no reason why you should discriminate on that basis and for him, it's perfectly natural to see a black, lesbian Superhero (is there one?) as a kick arse character because all sorts of people are being portrayed as kick-arse superheroes.

I go back to my point - what's the issue because I'm failing to see it.
kids can have opinions and thats fine, some of them precocious. but generally theyre opinions are still very nascent, theyre still in their formative years of thought, beliefs, understandings, experiences. why is it that only adults have an issue with this? because its a broad meaty topic and adults can analyze and incorporate other aspects of life as analogies.

anyway, the issue is not the diversity per se. its the re-booting of movies/etc with agendas of identity politics and sexual preferences and other SJW elements, and the meta or fourth wall of their scripts....instead of focusing on writing solid stories, or, creating new IPs to fill with diverse characters and then theres no problem.

also, the general thing now thats going way out of control of people getting offended bu everything. theres no fun left. look at the recent DSA conventions for where all this is going.
 

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kids can have opinions and thats fine, some of them precocious. but generally theyre opinions are still very nascent, theyre still in their formative years of thought, beliefs, understandings, experiences. why is it that only adults have an issue with this? because its a broad meaty topic and adults can analyze and incorporate other aspects of life as analogies.

anyway, the issue is not the diversity per se. its the re-booting of movies/etc with agendas of identity politics and sexual preferences and other SJW elements, and the meta or fourth wall of their scripts....instead of focusing on writing solid stories, or, creating new IPs to fill with diverse characters and then theres no problem.

also, the general thing now thats going way out of control of people getting offended bu everything. theres no fun left. look at the recent DSA conventions for where all this is going.
What is the right wing agenda in movies these days?
 

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kids can have opinions and thats fine, some of them precocious. but generally theyre opinions are still very nascent, theyre still in their formative years of thought, beliefs, understandings, experiences. why is it that only adults have an issue with this? because its a broad meaty topic and adults can analyze and incorporate other aspects of life as analogies.

anyway, the issue is not the diversity per se. its the re-booting of movies/etc with agendas of identity politics and sexual preferences and other SJW elements, and the meta or fourth wall of their scripts....instead of focusing on writing solid stories, or, creating new IPs to fill with diverse characters and then theres no problem.

also, the general thing now thats going way out of control of people getting offended bu everything. theres no fun left. look at the recent DSA conventions for where all this is going.
You still haven't said why it's a bad thing. Re-booting is lazy for sure - I thought the new Ghostbusters was a bad idea. Not because women were the lead characters but because the original was a classic and any reboot (with male or female leads) was going to flop. Using the DSA (a fringe group) as an example of why showing diversity in movies is a bad thing (in your opinion) is just plain silly. Extreme political correctness is silly - having a female Thor is not extreme political correctness.

Don't watch the new Thor, if it's such an issue for you.
 

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So it's interesting watching this cultural shift through the eyes of a pre-pubescent boy (my son). He loves all of the Superhero characters - male or female. Black or white. Straight or gay. In other words, he doesn't care what they are - he cares that the character is kick-arse. I know a sample of one means jack but if that's the result of the this so-called agenda, then can someone explain why that's bad?

Seems to me people are jumping at shadows.
Exactly; there are some rusted on middle aged white folks (of which I am one) who are used to see themselves in every depiction on screen. Now that other races/genders are getting a chance to see themselves on screen, albeit in a relatively small way, they are losing their minds. These are characters on a screen, their colour or gender doesn't matter if the story is good.

using kittle kids in this debate is disingenuous. kids dont care and havent the capacity to ponder beyond the superficial. this is an adult topic.
Superhero movies are an adult topic? Okaaaaaay.
 

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superhero movies arent adult topics, but left-wing agenda in movies/tv is an adult topic.

adults notice this stuff when watching movies, taking their kids to movies. just like theyd notice such an agenda in early childhood education, whereas kids are just sponges.
 

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superhero movies arent adult topics, but left-wing agenda in movies/tv is an adult topic.

adults notice this stuff when watching movies, taking their kids to movies. just like theyd notice such an agenda in early childhood education, whereas kids are just sponges.
Where’s the left wing agenda? I don’t see any movies bestowing the virtues of socialism.
 

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What I mostly see here is conservatives worried that things are different and not like they “should” be, like when they were growing up.

And yes, the Ghostbusters re- boot was a s**t film btw.

I don’t think it was some liberal conspiracy.
 

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But this new age socialism is a political thing right?

Do you think Hollywood would be pandering to them or trying to make films that make them money?
Hollywood, the Music Industry, the TV Industry are overrun by new-age socialists or Left-Wingers, and they're making movies for them.
It's obvious they're losing money in the process. Disney for instance are bleeding.
 

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Hollywood, the Music Industry, the TV Industry are overrun by new-age socialists or Left-Wingers, and they're making movies for them.
It's obvious they're losing money in the process. Disney for instance are bleeding.
I’d like to see some proof of your claims.

I’d say Hollywood in particular make films that they think will make them money, whatever the agenda.
 

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