Movie Left-Wing Agenda in Cinema/TV

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Rusty Brookes

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kids can have opinions and thats fine, some of them precocious. but generally theyre opinions are still very nascent, theyre still in their formative years of thought, beliefs, understandings, experiences. why is it that only adults have an issue with this? because its a broad meaty topic and adults can analyze and incorporate other aspects of life as analogies.

anyway, the issue is not the diversity per se. its the re-booting of movies/etc with agendas of identity politics and sexual preferences and other SJW elements, and the meta or fourth wall of their scripts....instead of focusing on writing solid stories, or, creating new IPs to fill with diverse characters and then theres no problem.

also, the general thing now thats going way out of control of people getting offended bu everything. theres no fun left. look at the recent DSA conventions for where all this is going.
You still haven't said why it's a bad thing. Re-booting is lazy for sure - I thought the new Ghostbusters was a bad idea. Not because women were the lead characters but because the original was a classic and any reboot (with male or female leads) was going to flop. Using the DSA (a fringe group) as an example of why showing diversity in movies is a bad thing (in your opinion) is just plain silly. Extreme political correctness is silly - having a female Thor is not extreme political correctness.

Don't watch the new Thor, if it's such an issue for you.
 

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So it's interesting watching this cultural shift through the eyes of a pre-pubescent boy (my son). He loves all of the Superhero characters - male or female. Black or white. Straight or gay. In other words, he doesn't care what they are - he cares that the character is kick-arse. I know a sample of one means jack but if that's the result of the this so-called agenda, then can someone explain why that's bad?

Seems to me people are jumping at shadows.
Exactly; there are some rusted on middle aged white folks (of which I am one) who are used to see themselves in every depiction on screen. Now that other races/genders are getting a chance to see themselves on screen, albeit in a relatively small way, they are losing their minds. These are characters on a screen, their colour or gender doesn't matter if the story is good.

using kittle kids in this debate is disingenuous. kids dont care and havent the capacity to ponder beyond the superficial. this is an adult topic.
Superhero movies are an adult topic? Okaaaaaay.
 

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superhero movies arent adult topics, but left-wing agenda in movies/tv is an adult topic.

adults notice this stuff when watching movies, taking their kids to movies. just like theyd notice such an agenda in early childhood education, whereas kids are just sponges.
 

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superhero movies arent adult topics, but left-wing agenda in movies/tv is an adult topic.

adults notice this stuff when watching movies, taking their kids to movies. just like theyd notice such an agenda in early childhood education, whereas kids are just sponges.
Where’s the left wing agenda? I don’t see any movies bestowing the virtues of socialism.
 

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What I mostly see here is conservatives worried that things are different and not like they “should” be, like when they were growing up.

And yes, the Ghostbusters re- boot was a sh*t film btw.

I don’t think it was some liberal conspiracy.
 

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But this new age socialism is a political thing right?

Do you think Hollywood would be pandering to them or trying to make films that make them money?
Hollywood, the Music Industry, the TV Industry are overrun by new-age socialists or Left-Wingers, and they're making movies for them.
It's obvious they're losing money in the process. Disney for instance are bleeding.
 

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Hollywood, the Music Industry, the TV Industry are overrun by new-age socialists or Left-Wingers, and they're making movies for them.
It's obvious they're losing money in the process. Disney for instance are bleeding.
I’d like to see some proof of your claims.

I’d say Hollywood in particular make films that they think will make them money, whatever the agenda.
 

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That's obvious and doesn't need proving, because you can rifle off a litany of recent movies that are agenda-focused.
I can't believe you'd need proof of that.
There’s always been films focused on agendas since day dot of film making.

Do you think Hollywood moguls would purposely make films to push a political agenda over making films that make them money. Isn’t it more likely that they are trying to make films that they think people want in order to make more money?
 

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There’s always been films focused on agendas since day dot of film making.

Do you think Hollywood moguls would purposely make films to push a political agenda over making films that make them money. Isn’t it more likely that they are trying to make films that they think people want in order to make more money?
Dont think they are mutually exclusive. Whilst the primary motive is to make money, one sure fire way of achieving this is by tapping into the current populist zeitgeist.
 

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Dont think they are mutually exclusive. Whilst the primary motive is to make money, one sure fire way of achieving this is by tapping into the current populist zeitgeist.
I agree with this.

I just don’t think that they are pushing a liberal agenda for political purposes. It’s all about the money.

More females will go see their films if they are playing more prominent/powerful characters. Females are half the worlds population and have money too.
 

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I agree with this.

I just don’t think that they are pushing a liberal agenda for political purposes. It’s all about the money.

More females will go see their films if they are playing more prominent/powerful characters. Females are half the worlds population and have money too.
watch the video i posted tho. the guy talks about what his fiance said about a few lines from the trailer that rubbed HER wrong....and an example of the agenda going on.
 

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I think the sticking point is the way it is done. Work hard and diligently and creatively to write more powerful female characters. Characters that stand on their own through powerful writing rather than a lazy means of a character having to verbalise constantly "I am a powerful female character".
Im exaggerrating a tad obviously and not saying its all like that but I think thats the crux of the matter.
Clever impactful writing of characters regardless of gender and not lazy writing using cliche obvious sentiments to make the differentiation.
 

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yep, the Bond franchise was made for a white male, and other cultures converted the concept for their own race. Like Shaft, and theres probably a Korean one made in Korea. But imagine if Shaft suddenly became a bearded white dude.
You understand why people would react differently, though, right?
 

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