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[1970crow]

Anyone know what this is about? Seems weird, would mean that we want him out to eliminate his $350k salary from the books, but expect him to take equity instead of contract termination clause value whilst removing him from influence on profitability. Sanders, I think you'd have some understanding of this type of agreement. Seen something similar before?

Have heard Nigel Smart has been told clean out his desk in exchange for an Equity Stake in the E Sport stuff.

 

[Scorpus]

Apparently Legacy is doing quite well in the current tournament. Well above expectations

 

[Scorpus]

 

[Vhaluus]

If they get out of the group stage I'll be legitimately impressed.

Still not sold on it being a good investment, but impressed at their performance.

 

[hendo8888]

Game 4 starting now. If we win, we have a rematch against Team Liquid to auto-qualify for groups. If we lose, we go into the 2-4 playoff.
Already overachieving, genuine chance to qualify for the next round at this point.

 

[Sanders]

Anyone know what this is about? Seems weird, would mean that we want him out to eliminate his $350k salary from the books, but expect him to take equity instead of contract termination clause value whilst removing him from influence on profitability. Sanders, I think you'd have some understanding of this type of agreement. Seen something similar before?

yeah, I’ve heard of it in a private equity, deep tech style environment

sounds a bit like - you wanted it so much, what’s the problem?

 

[1970crow]

yeah, I’ve heard of it in a private equity, deep tech style environment

sounds a bit like - you wanted it so much, what’s the problem?

But he'd have to accept no ongoing involvement and now has skin in the game. Do people really accept offers like that?

 

[Rise_up_Stiffy]

Wow the adc popped off that game. Another good win

 

[hendo8888]

3-1 Baby!!!
Raes is a GOD

 

[MRB37]

Noticed Smart removed all references to AFC in his Twitter bio. Just all eSports stuff now.

 

[Sanders]

But he'd have to accept no ongoing involvement and now has skin in the game. Do people really accept offers like that?

yes

 

[Deaneus!]

 

[I_Was_There]

Why would they not have even the tiniest AFC logo on their clothes?

 

[spexau]

Why would they not have even the tiniest AFC logo on their clothes?

I believe they do on the back of their collars

 

[Rise_up_Stiffy]

They got absolutely destroyed by team liquid to get into the group stage, like Geelong/Port 2007 GF level of destroyed.

 

[Vhaluus]

They got absolutely destroyed by team liquid to get into the group stage, like Geelong/Port 2007 GF level of destroyed.

Which is to be expected.

As I've said repeatedly before, the quality of the OCE competitive scene is a long way back from the major regions.

 

[AFC3000]

Why would they not have even the tiniest AFC logo on their clothes?

I haven't followed this closely, but see that Essendon sold their team at the end of last year and that was 100% Bombers branded, of course, the team had to re-brand after selling.

This would mean there was no real value in the brand, just the license.

One reason I could see why they have avoided the Crows branding would be that the goal is to build a strong Australian esports brand that's not limited by AFL allegiances, giving them the flexibility to sell it at full value.

Likely the same reason we didn't rebrand the Bite/Giants as the Crows (at least I don't recall there being a logo or anything) I know Port supporters who support the Giants, not sure they'd stick with it if they had our name or logo and I don't think doing that would bring more baseball fans across to the football than it would turn off from the baseball.

Building the Giants brand gives them flexibility. I think the same would have happened if the 36ers thing worked out.

Bring "professional" (haha I guess) sports admin/management to smaller teams to increase their value.

 

[I_Was_There]

I haven't followed this closely, but see that Essendon sold their team at the end of last year and that was 100% Bombers branded, of course, the team had to re-brand after selling.

This would mean there was no real value in the brand, just the license.

One reason I could see why they have avoided the Crows branding would be that the goal is to build a strong Australian esports brand that's not limited by AFL allegiances, giving them the flexibility to sell it at full value.

Likely the same reason we didn't rebrand the Bite/Giants as the Crows (at least I don't recall there being a logo or anything) I know Port supporters who support the Giants, not sure they'd stick with it if they had our name or logo and I don't think doing that would bring more baseball fans across to the football than it would turn off from the baseball.

Building the Giants brand gives them flexibility. I think the same would have happened if the 36ers thing worked out.

Bring "professional" (haha I guess) sports admin/management to smaller teams to increase their value.

Thanks for the detailed response

 

[brucetiki]

I haven't followed this closely, but see that Essendon sold their team at the end of last year and that was 100% Bombers branded, of course, the team had to re-brand after selling.

This would mean there was no real value in the brand, just the license.

One reason I could see why they have avoided the Crows branding would be that the goal is to build a strong Australian esports brand that's not limited by AFL allegiances, giving them the flexibility to sell it at full value.

Likely the same reason we didn't rebrand the Bite/Giants as the Crows (at least I don't recall there being a logo or anything) I know Port supporters who support the Giants, not sure they'd stick with it if they had our name or logo and I don't think doing that would bring more baseball fans across to the football than it would turn off from the baseball.

Building the Giants brand gives them flexibility. I think the same would have happened if the 36ers thing worked out.

Bring "professional" (haha I guess) sports admin/management to smaller teams to increase their value.

There was also the legacy (pun not intended) of the Giants being the Adelaide team in the original national competition in the 1990's. I remember the meltdown by some on here last year when the Bite rebranded as the Giants - people wondered why we didn't just rebrand as the Crows (ala Collingwood and GWS having sides in the netball comp), and why we were rebranding as the same name as an AFL competitor. If the Giants had rebranded as the Crows, then we would've alienated non-Crows supporting Giants fans.

There is no obvious Crows branding at Giants games. Closest I've seen was the BBQ using an AFC EFTPOS machine, and last season's purple jersey auction using an AFC registered site, so the transactions showed as coming from AFC.

The Thunderbirds in the late 2000's got sponsored by Port for a few seasons, but ended up rebranding due to the fan backlash from the heavy Power branding (and the very audible boos when they thanked Port for being a sponsor after the 2010 Grand Final).

If the e-sports side was too heavily Crows branded, it could/would limit the supporter reach for the side

 

[Vhaluus]

There was also the legacy (pun not intended) of the Giants being the Adelaide team in the original national competition in the 1990's. I remember the meltdown by some on here last year when the Bite rebranded as the Giants - people wondered why we didn't just rebrand as the Crows (ala Collingwood and GWS having sides in the netball comp), and why we were rebranding as the same name as an AFL competitor. If the Giants had rebranded as the Crows, then we would've alienated non-Crows supporting Giants fans.

There is no obvious Crows branding at Giants games. Closest I've seen was the BBQ using an AFC EFTPOS machine, and last season's purple jersey auction using an AFC registered site, so the transactions showed as coming from AFC.

The Thunderbirds in the late 2000's got sponsored by Port for a few seasons, but ended up rebranding due to the fan backlash from the heavy Power branding (and the very audible boos when they thanked Port for being a sponsor after the 2010 Grand Final).

If the e-sports side was too heavily Crows branded, it could/would limit the supporter reach for the side

See I'm not entirely convinced there'd be much backlash.

As someone who has been heavily into esports and is still very much into AFL I haven't come across too much overlap between the fan bases.

But that's just my anecdotal experience.

 

[1970crow]

There was also the legacy (pun not intended) of the Giants being the Adelaide team in the original national competition in the 1990's. I remember the meltdown by some on here last year when the Bite rebranded as the Giants - people wondered why we didn't just rebrand as the Crows (ala Collingwood and GWS having sides in the netball comp), and why we were rebranding as the same name as an AFL competitor. If the Giants had rebranded as the Crows, then we would've alienated non-Crows supporting Giants fans.

There is no obvious Crows branding at Giants games. Closest I've seen was the BBQ using an AFC EFTPOS machine, and last season's purple jersey auction using an AFC registered site, so the transactions showed as coming from AFC.

The Thunderbirds in the late 2000's got sponsored by Port for a few seasons, but ended up rebranding due to the fan backlash from the heavy Power branding (and the very audible boos when they thanked Port for being a sponsor after the 2010 Grand Final).

If the e-sports side was too heavily Crows branded, it could/would limit the supporter reach for the side

Your not suggesting that the SA market has anything to do with the investment into e-sports. If it lives or dies by whether we keep PAFC footy fans engaged, then it's dead already.

 

[brucetiki]

Your not suggesting that the SA market has anything to do with the investment into e-sports. If it lives or dies by whether we keep PAFC footy fans engaged, then it's dead already.

Not just Port fans though

 

[Mego Red]

Your not suggesting that the SA market has anything to do with the investment into e-sports. If it lives or dies by whether we keep PAFC footy fans engaged, then it's dead already.

I don't think it's that.

It's about growing equity in a e-sports focused brand, that we could potentially sell when the moment is right. If it had its own identity, then it can be worth something to people other than us.

 

[Jcpdragonx]

Exceeded expectations, the team they lost to at the end (chinese team) would have been shot when they got back home had they lost. Threw game 2 very badly. Overall performed really well.

 

[Sanders]

I believe they do on the back of their collars

whoa

so Much