Autopsy Leon Cameron's coaching performance

BigFrizz36

Norm Smith Medallist
Mar 20, 2017
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Carlton
Average Key Defenders (Corr & Tomlinson - Davis O.K.) Mummy is a shot bird. Top heavy forward line that is so limited in keeping the ball in that De Boer is seen as the answer. Riches galore in the midfield but better at pushing forward than defending. Coach makes matters worse by refusing to make adjustments for the weather and playing Shaw on Betts taking away Shaws run and playing Eddie back into form. Trainwreck.
 
Aug 14, 2001
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Western Bulldogs
Funnily enough three of the last four teams left last year have struggled relatively this year. Could be another issue to come up from the bye.

GWS still finished top four but with 14 wins and two draws and they are way behind where they were this time last year.

I think they'll bounce back. It's just going to be basically as hard as it is for any side to win a flag. The first round picks don't mean as much as people think - plenty have left and they've traded in a few oldies who have dropped off.
 

Coolangatta

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Oct 27, 2007
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Everyone expects them to win at least one flag, likely two, maybe three or four, but as their older guys retire, it fills even more holes in a list that's great but not perfect. No list is, but if Cameron doesn't do something soon and they don't axe him next year if they fail again, the window could shut on this mob sooner than it opened.
 
Oct 8, 2009
29,705
27,614
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Carlton
Average coach but their list is terribly overrated.
Beginning to think this too. Think they'd like to have a better defence than what they currently have.

I think it goes both ways though. Hawks probably didn't have a team with the raw talent GWS has right now but they were well drilled and all bought into what Clarko wanted.
 
May 2, 2017
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Fremantle
Beginning to think this too. Think they'd like to have a better defence than what they currently have.

I think it goes both ways though. Hawks probably didn't have a team with the raw talent GWS has right now but they were well drilled and all bought into what Clarko wanted.
Yeah fair to say Clarko >>>>>>>>>>>> Cameron.

Think they can account for either team next week. Absolutely no faith in them to beat either of the Tigers or Cats though. Whoever wins tomorrow is going to a GF IMO.
 
Funnily enough three of the last four teams left last year have struggled relatively this year. Could be another issue to come up from the bye.

GWS still finished top four but with 14 wins and two draws and they are way behind where they were this time last year.

I think they'll bounce back. It's just going to be basically as hard as it is for any side to win a flag. The first round picks don't mean as much as people think - plenty have left and they've traded in a few oldies who have dropped off.
The bye?
 

TooBlue14

Cancelled
Feb 5, 2015
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Too many gws players don't run defensively. It's glaringly obvious. How many times were Adelaide out numbering gws in their own half. Ridiculous. It's either a mental thing for the playing group or its coaching.
 

TooBlue14

Cancelled
Feb 5, 2015
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They were too tall and slow
Not just tonight but all year they can't defend. Height could be compounding the issue. Carlton play quite tall particularly the backline but we play to a team built that way. Gws move the ball rrally fast. Kick to a contest and then give it up the other way.
 
Aug 14, 2001
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Western Bulldogs
In relative terms the teams that make it to the pointy end, who already had a late start to the preseason, now have an even later start relative to (in particular) bottom eight sides.

Sydney and the Dogs both dropped off badly this year, though Sydney fought back to an extent. GWS have won their share of games but have notably dropped off in performance.

There may be plenty of other factors but it'll be interesting to see how this year's top four start next year.
 

Sedat!

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Oct 3, 2003
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Western Bulldogs
Not quite?

Ummm we are a mile off that disaster

We are the 4th best team in the comp. Just a big gap between 2nd and 3rd.

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Your W/L was poorer in 2017 compared to 2016 and your % was much poorer. Relative to flag favouratism expectations for most of the year, it has been an ordinary campaign by GWS from the outset saved from being disastrous by a handful of very fortunate results. You can polish it up as much as you like but if you go out in straight sets next week it will end up being a turd of a season.
 
Apr 12, 2012
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Your W/L was poorer in 2017 compared to 2016 and your % was much poorer. Relative to flag favouratism expectations for most of the year, it has been an ordinary campaign by GWS from the outset saved from being disastrous by a handful of very fortunate results. You can polish it up as much as you like but if you go out in straight sets next week it will end up being a turd of a season.
We havent been where we wanted, ive never said we were favs.
Our year has def been worse than last year. So far. But it could still turn around.

But equating it to the dogs is laughable.

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Topkent

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Aug 29, 2010
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Jeremy Cameron is so overrated. Bloke is a big small forward and is only any good with space behind him. No good as a traditional forward when his defender can set up on his back shoulder.
 

Rotayjay

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Aug 28, 2014
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Adelaide
Everyone expects them to win at least one flag, likely two, maybe three or four, but as their older guys retire, it fills even more holes in a list that's great but not perfect. No list is, but if Cameron doesn't do something soon and they don't axe him next year if they fail again, the window could shut on this mob sooner than it opened.
Would be fitting
 

Testekill

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Dec 3, 2009
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Jeremy Cameron is so overrated. Bloke is a big small forward and is only any good with space behind him. No good as a traditional forward when his defender can set up on his back shoulder.

Can't really rag on him for tonight but his finals last season did not even reach a reasonable standard. Just doesn't have the capacity to stand up under a ton of pressure.
 
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