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Pretty sure Fev was anything but inconsistant during the last half of the season, averaged a ridiculous amount of goals for his last 10 games or so.
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Pretty sure Fev was anything but inconsistant during the last half of the season, averaged a ridiculous amount of goals for his last 10 games or so.
Completely different players.
No way could we play Davis anywhere but the backlines after last year.
Different players but similar age bracket. Callinan is undersized and could be serviceable at afl level at best, Davis is a dual AA. I'll even say that Davis would make a better small forward than callinan at afl level despite his indifferent form in the forward line.
Davis could do everything callinan could at afl level, but the reverse couldn't apply.
Davis could do everything callinan could at afl level, but the reverse couldn't apply.
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Agreed, he basically kicked 60 goals in 10 games or something insane.
Is that meant to be a can or can't? If we did pick him and didn't want him along the HBF I hope we let him push up the ground when he is in the forward pocket or otherwise he loses confidence and has a season like 2010 (compared to his 09 season where he spent time in the forwards and mid).
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I completely agree with this. I'm a little surprised by the reaction in this thread.
The guy is silky smooth, can hit targets on both sides of his body, and is a dead eye dick in front of goal. On those merits alone, he'd be a standout in our team.
Is my memory playing tricks on me, or did he kick the clutch goal from 50m that allowed Collingwood to stave off Hawthorn in the last stanza of that prelim final?
If the price is right, I'd have no problem at all with picking up Davis.
Maybe,
But why the hell would we take an AA half back flanker and put him to flounder back in the forward pocket.
Also I'd back Callinan to be the better midfielder.
I'm often amazed by the responses on this board. The people here that are passionately opposed to Leon coming here are the same ones who would critisize Craigy for being too conservative. The simple fact is that Davis is AA, has probably 4 years of footy left and is an elite user of the footy by foot. To say that he is taking a game from a kid would apply equally to Truck, Dogger and Stiffy who are in their last couple of years, should we drop them? And as I see it, Davis would help our young midfield and forwards as he would help increase the speed and accurassy of our transition out of defence. Imagine him hitting Otten or Smith at full run from a kick in or Danger or McKay on the birst from a stoppage at half back, this has to help those kids improve their games and will certainly help Tip and Walker if the ball comes in quicker and under less pressure. If there is any chance of getting him for a pre season pick and only 300k a year then we should be skipping about and rubbing our hands.
PS We definately are too quick to write people off because of age in our sport, most test cricketeres for Australia don'r get a chance until around 30 and guys like Brett Favre in the NFL have shown that you can be an incredible signing even at 40.
PS We definately are too quick to write people off because of age in our sport, most test cricketeres for Australia don'r get a chance until around 30 and guys like Brett Favre in the NFL have shown that you can be an incredible signing even at 40.
The sad thing about this is most players get greedy.Ok if it was GWS with all their concessions paying leon Davis 350 k per year is not a problem.
Collingwood is in a premiership window and has salary cap issues to keep the current team together to have a few more cracks at another flag or two.
If the team counted then offering 250k per year is still 250k per year.
Very few people eran that sort of money anyway.
Now the problem is how much money does Leon Davis thinks he is going to earn when his playing days end ?
He'll be lucky to earn 50 k per year as he will find out shortly.
He should have taken the slight pay cut for the team and maybe he could have been part of something special in another year or two then he could've written his own ticket.
Collingwood is in a premiership window and has salary cap issues to keep the current team together to have a few more cracks at another flag or two.
If the team counted then offering 250k per year is still 250k per year.
Very few people eran that sort of money anyway.
Now the problem is how much money does Leon Davis thinks he is going to earn when his playing days end ?
He'll be lucky to earn 50 k per year as he will find out shortly.
He should have taken the slight pay cut for the team and maybe he could have been part of something special in another year or two then he could've written his own ticket.
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No its not playing tricks, and despite playing severely injured /poorly in the drawn GF, he actually kicked the goal in the last quarter that got Collingwood back into it, when it looked like the Sainters were going to win. I am glad the club are considering it. I agree with your post, amazed by the critisism
Slight Pay cut? 100K? Slight? 28%.
Would you take a 28% pay cut in what is arguably your best performing year so your employer can go for success in a competition?
To say he is greedy shows how one eyed you are. Good luck replacing quality like Davis.
Actually, crows please take him just to piss collingwood off.
Would you take a 28% pay cut in what is arguably your best performing year so your employer can go for success in a competition?
To say he is greedy shows how one eyed you are. Good luck replacing quality like Davis.
Actually, crows please take him just to piss collingwood off.
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Would definitely have a crack at Davis if the price is right, once again the dumb perfect AFC mentality has reared its head on this board, how about for a change we go out on a limb and have a crack at a genuinely good player who we could possibly get 2-3 years out of with a bucket load of AFL experience and is an AA, he isnt no dud and actually has won games off his own boot in the past.
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He would also be ahead of Tambling and Reilly.
I don't have the numbers with me, but one week he went from 10 goals to 0 goals late in the season. That is inconsistent! It tells me that his head still isn't right. Under AFL environment I reckon he would struggle again. There's no doubt about his talent, and it's wasted in the VFL, but he simply does not have an AFL footballer's head.
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How is it a dumb mentality to prefer to have a place in the side for developing our own future AA that we could get 12-13 years out of rather than have to be filling Davis' place in the side when he retires in 2-3 years right when we could be in a period of real strength?
That was a final where they got flogged where he dropped to 0 goals. Watched a ton of him in the second half of the year and he was pretty consistent and good, but barely left the 50. Don't have to work as hard in the VFL.
Not just an AFL head, he doesn't have a human head. He can't help it, I don't think he makes conscious decisions that lead to his mistakes, he generally can't help being a dick. He's a nice guy and tries, but just can't help being an idiot.
AFL talent of course, but at his age, you'd want to be in the window and VERY comfortable with your culture and entire playing list.
Not just an AFL head, he doesn't have a human head. He can't help it, I don't think he makes conscious decisions that lead to his mistakes, he generally can't help being a dick. He's a nice guy and tries, but just can't help being an idiot.
AFL talent of course, but at his age, you'd want to be in the window and VERY comfortable with your culture and entire playing list.
Based on what exactly? Similar age, callinan is smaller, slower, and has poorer disposal and never really played at the elite level for long periods. You are overrating him based on sanfl form.
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I'm in two minds whether we should have a crack at Davis or not. But, let's not forget that if we pick him up in the pre-season draft, he will be the 39th and last player on our list. He's hardly going to be taking the spot of an elite youngster.
Also, let's not forget that aside from Gold Coast and GWS, we have just about the most inexperienced list going around. Someone of his career profile (not to mention ability) could be just what we need.
Frankly, I won't be fussed if we do or don't, just think there is certainly some merit to recruiting him.
Also, let's not forget that aside from Gold Coast and GWS, we have just about the most inexperienced list going around. Someone of his career profile (not to mention ability) could be just what we need.
Frankly, I won't be fussed if we do or don't, just think there is certainly some merit to recruiting him.
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I agree with this, my point is only that if we take Davis instead of callinan we are not actually changing the shape of the squad by keeping the same amount of 30 year olds while at the same time improving the overall quality output.
There is no way we should have callinan and Davis though
I think you're stretching it to suggest that he has 3-4 years left in him. I'm sure Collingwood would be making greater efforts to retain him if that were the case. I'd be very surprised if he's still on an AFL list in 2014, assuming he gets picked up this year.
I can see good reasons for drafting him (via the PSD) and good reasons for not doing so. On the positive side, he is highly skilled and very experienced - 2 assets which are both in short supply at the Crows right now. I have no doubt at all that the likes of Jaensch, Petrenko & Wright would be able to learn a great deal from him. On the other side of the coin, he's no spring chicken and one of our priorities (not necessarily our 1st or only priority) is to pump as many games as possible into our kids, so as to make up the experience deficit we suffer relative to the better teams in the competition.
At the end of the day, $300k is not excessive for a player of Davis' calibre.
Yeah.. nah. Very few footballers play into their 30s because their bodies are shot - Australian Rules football is a far more physical game than cricket. Cricketers playing into their 30s is a relatively recent phenomenon as well, with most players being long since retired by that age before the game went completely professional.
I'm not an NFL fan and have no idea who Brett Favre is, so no comment on that one.
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Why not? What is this phobia we have at our club of guys that are over 28 years of age? Are we still reeling from the Carey trade? Really?
Davis has a good kick and awarness. Callinan is a hard nut who knows how to win clearances. One of the hardest things to teach a player.
You are over rating Davis because he played for Collingwood.
If it comes down to a choice between these two, then Callinan loses out every day of the week. This is a complete no-brainer. Davis is 50x better than Callinan could ever hope to be.
In all seriousness, if we can get Davis for nothing in the PSD, anyone who complains is a moron. He is ridiculously quick, a current AA, can play forward or back and to see him link up with Stiffy or get under Tippett's feet would be a joy, even if only for 2 years....
Even if he doesn't kick a ball the knowledge he would bring from the Collingwood system would be priceless...
But my tip..... Melbourne..... Mark Neeld and he were close and he would be sensational for them... Wouldn't surprise if Neeld has already been in his ear... I hope Sando is as good as we are all expecting because Neeld is looking the goods, ultra ruthless.
Even if he doesn't kick a ball the knowledge he would bring from the Collingwood system would be priceless...
But my tip..... Melbourne..... Mark Neeld and he were close and he would be sensational for them... Wouldn't surprise if Neeld has already been in his ear... I hope Sando is as good as we are all expecting because Neeld is looking the goods, ultra ruthless.
