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I have to say - I don't understand teams ruling a player like Davis out because they have a "youth policy"
FFS the guy will improve your team immediately, provide some bloody exciting moments of football and probably help your team develop
you cannot have 22 "youth" playing in your team, so if you don't want him, don't say you have a youth policy because you are basically telling your members your planning on losing more than you win next season.
FFS the guy will improve your team immediately, provide some bloody exciting moments of football and probably help your team develop
you cannot have 22 "youth" playing in your team, so if you don't want him, don't say you have a youth policy because you are basically telling your members your planning on losing more than you win next season.
Yeah, but collision injuries aren't what does it to your body in most cases. Its the hamstrings, groins, calves which make it bloody impossible to run out a game at full pace.
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I'm not 100% sure but i think you're wrong, Fev kicking 0 would probably be a bigger story than him kicking 10, as i said though i'm not 100% sure and i'll be happy to be corrected.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-crunch-scorpions-in-daring-upset-20110910-1k3bh.html
He was also suspended in that game.
He kicked 69 for the season. So, started slow, had a purple patch over 7 games and then finished the year with zero goals. Inconsistent.
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Yeah me bad, i thought he kicked 5 in his last game, must of been the game before, i don't really follow the VFL though.
Totally agree with you Pete.
I'd take him in the PSD if he was there for the taking. IMO we'd be crazy not to.
We've got a team of young players with very few experienced heads around them, and he would boost us in that department. More than that he has those silky skills that very few players have - as you say McLeod like at times.
I heard them talking about his kicking off from a point I think it was. Apparently he had a patch of 29 kick-offs for 29 perfect passes at one stage this year.
It's not as if we're talking about Matthew (yuk) Smith here - we're talking about an AA player here, who is coming off of a great year.
I say we should do it if the opportunity is there to do so.
If we can snap up Davis with either our last ND pick or rookie draft then i'm all for it. Davis would play all the games next year, he fills a massive void in leadership (experience) and he could fill another massive hole on our list as a small creative forward.
He was quite unfit when the season began but he really picked up as the season went on. All key forwards have quite games from time to time, even after his 10 goal preformance he still managed to have 3 shots on goal (with the 3 behinds) so he was still involved in some level.
Fevola has never had any problems with preforming to an AFL level, it's what he does off the field which is the issue, if it was talent alone, every club would be wanting to pick him up.
Less chance of another team grabbing him I guess.
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Depends if you intend on using all of your ND picks, it's a very weak draft so most clubs wont.
I don't see how any of that refutes what I'm saying. Or are you agreeing?
Well you're saying his had an inconsistent season but once he got going he didn't really take a step backwards so I don't see how that makes his season inconstant.
From 10 goals to 6 goals to 0 goals in an elimination final is not a step backwards?
EDIT: I think my point is especially strong in the context of a thread of Davis and his supposed finals chokes
Going to 6 goals is hardly a step backwards and every key forward occassionaly has a game where they don't kick any (he still had 3 shots at goal). Back in 09 when Fev kick 89 goals for the season he had a game where he kicked no goals (round 7) so are you telling me you would call that an inconsistent season? There are plenty more examples of other key forwards who have done the same (The past 3 seasons Franklin has had at least one game where he hasn't kicked a goal, Lockett, Modra and Lloyd are other examples).
Well, you either use all your available picks, or you leave one for the PSD.
If you are taking the same person regardless for the PSD pick, there's no point running the risk of missing out on this player by leaving him until the PSD.
Only reason I can see for doing it is if you aren't 100% on getting him or you are seeing if someone better becomes available or if that player is only nominated in the PSD.
You're taking this way out of context fixating on one word I used to describe Fevola's season.
The point is that Fevola's behaviour this year has not demonstrated that he has overcome his mental demons. There is no question about his ability or whatever. Of course he had a purple patch in the VFL, he's a multiple Coleman Medal winner. I sincerely doubt he's going to replicate that form at AFL level because of his mental weakness, especially at the Crows with our delivery and forward structures. His inability to be at peak fitness at the start of the year raises more questions than answers.
And especially when you compare Fev to Davis' year, considering they both had a bad 2010 and were looking to turn things around. One had 7 good games in the VFL. The other took a pro-active approach to his game, forced the coaches to reconsider his role and got All-Australian honours. Its not even a contest.
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Well he was delisted from the Brisbane side very late in December last year (for memory) and it was also reported he attempted to commit suicide at some stage during that period. This is all when most AFL players are already a month or two into their pre season training (not sure when VFL players start theirs) so of course he was going to be behind the 8 ball at the start of the season. He then had to get his head clear before he was able to come back to football at any level which did take some time as the mental problems he was facing were very serious. But to me, his season has been very much a crescendo in which I think his form at the end of the season has proven that he has done as much as humanly possible to prove that he is ready for another crack at AFL if given the chance.
Not sure if this is aimed at me or the thread in general as I'm not trying to argue that we should go for Fevola over Davis as we already have two key forwards in our side and he would only hold the development of Walker back further.
I think we are debating at cross-purposes here. I'm talking about Davis, and made supplementary comments about how bad a selection Fev would be compared with Davis. The ins and outs of his season don't concern me, as the key indicators are far too worrying to take seriously.
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I honestly don't think it matters, if Leon comes to terms with you guys you will get him, the only real advantage of taking him in the ND is you could have access to him sooner so he can settle quicker/have a better pre season etc, he will settle in well at your club, top bloke etc etc.
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I wouldn't be averse to the idea of the Crows picking him up in the Pre-Season Draft.
Definitely pick him up. The guy has X factor and is much like gartlett or Yarran running out of the back lines- he has great lateral movement and no one can catch him. He has all the time in the world and evasive skils. Him and stiffy back there giving us drive would be absolutely great and our younger back players will grow an extra leg ie yaensh ans Talia. He will teach them about time and space. Davis plays the back line beatifully and any player who understands football will see this. I think this will enable players like Yaensh and Martin to play the wings as this is where I think they can use their flare. Martin should be released from his Leash that Craigy put on him and take the game on like he did in his first few games against the Saints and Port. Yaensh in my opinion too would be better on the wing delivering to our forwards as in the backline he doesnt use his nice kicking often enough as he was going sideways too often with chippy kicks. His kicks are a lot more affective when he goes direct and penetrates into our forward half. It forces him to go longer... Tambling on the other side of the coin must go forward- he looks lost minding a man and is much better when has the ball in his hand and just take the guys on. I think crumbing is his spot. Get the ball and make the goals your focus!!!
BIG YES FOR LEON and then when Doughty and goes out we can star playing young Luke from Norwood down back also with stints in the mddle.
