I seem to recall the words 'percentage of around 100' being uttered also.
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News Leppitsch's contract extended until 2017
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Forget about asking questions. Hutchy and Barrett will be calling for his head if we lose our first couple of games.
Yep, he said that too.
As for Leppa stemming the flow of players leaving, aside from the GH5, there has still been too many for my liking, including, Patfull, Crisp, Aish, Redden and Leuenberger; all players that one could argue were more valuable than the GH5.
At this stage, I'm just not sure what the point of extending Leppa's contract was, aside from the club's attempt to keep the media hounds at bay were. If anything, a decision should have been made at season's end.
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Gonna have to chime in and disagree completely mate.
Patfull wanted his post-football life to be in Sydney, was happy to stay but if the right opportunity came up for us, was happy to go early. Got us Bundy.
Crisp was happy to stay but was used to get us BEAMS.
Aish is a twat who we wanted to keep but wanted to leave.
Redden left and we wanted to keep him.
Luey left because we wanted to use his FA pick. Backfired as the AFL ****ed us big time. Swann even said we'd have kept him if we knew.
In conclusion, Leppa HAS stemmed the flow. Losing two players we wanted to keep in two years, whilst being able to resign the rest is pretty damn good, especially considering our ladder positioning. We've also just resigned and are about to sign the biggest uncertainties we had. All that's really left is Mayes who could go either way due to personal life issues and Squizzy who you'd think is certain to resign.
Compare that to other clubs and I'd be confident we're on par with most.
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the lions have had no more or less players going out than any other side (since the GH5) that has been down in the bottom few clubs for an extended period of time.
j.patfull- wanted to move to sydney for post football opportunities, departure very amicable.
j.crisp- was willing to stay, but thrown in to get the dayne beams deal over the line.
j.aish- would have liked him to stay, but from reports he was more than likely leaving from the time he was drafted, i would say the young talent that has come in the last 2 drafts more than compensate for his loss.
j.redden- felt his football had gone stale, needed a fresh start another amicable departure.
m.leuenberger- wanted to be number 1 ruck, never going to happen with stef martin here long term. never lived up to his high draft pick hype. no animosity there from him or the lions.
i see this as normal player movement.
that has also been fully mitigated by the trading in of d.beams, a.christensen, t.bell, r.bastinac and j.walker.
the re signing of multiple players over the off season is a great sign of the players confidence in what leppa and the club has set in place. there has been a total revamp of the club on field and off over the last 2 seasons, the board obviously has no doubts that leppa is the man going forward and i for one 100% back the football knowledge of people like matthews and schwab.
To be fair, of those you list Dylan, I think Leppa could only have possibly stopped Redden.
Listing Crisp in there is odd - trades have to include something for both teams or they don't occur.
Listing Crisp in there is odd - trades have to include something for both teams or they don't occur.
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Last year we had more big losses but reduced the complete blowouts. Is that progress?
See, I wish people would just come out and say what they really think. If you think we shouldn't have extended Leppa's contract, just say we should've sacked him at the end of last season. I don't think there's any middle ground.
Why no 'middle ground'? He was contracted for this year; a known fact. He has a chance to prove his way is the right way this year and he deserves that. If we have a crap year he should be punted. All the stuff about 'outside pressure' from the media is garbage. If any club pays attention to these twats looking for a story because they are bored, then they have a problem. If the team meet certain goals (which should be transparent to Leppa) during the year then about round 16 (arbitrary) they should look at re-negotiating. If not, thanks for your efforts and begin the search for a new man.
My 2 cents worth:
He walked into a train wreck in 2014 with absolutely no say in or control over the GH5 situation, not to mention the rest of the turmoil surrounding the club after the sacking of Voss and a dysfunctional and out of touch Board.
We were all optimistic about a better performance in 2015 but our hundreds of (injuries time playing weeks ) soon put an end to that . From memory, that was something like a figure of 240, compared with the AFL average of 80.
How anyone can even attempt to quantify Leppa's performance over the last 2 years is beyond me.
In fact, considering that we were widely regarded as cannon fodder even before the Injury Toll from Hell set in 2015, one could probably mount a cogent argument that he actually did pretty well.
The upset win over the Dogs in the last Round was as exhilarating as it was unexpected
He needs to get a decent go at it with a bit of room to breathe.
I fully support the decision to give him a two year extension.
He walked into a train wreck in 2014 with absolutely no say in or control over the GH5 situation, not to mention the rest of the turmoil surrounding the club after the sacking of Voss and a dysfunctional and out of touch Board.
We were all optimistic about a better performance in 2015 but our hundreds of (injuries time playing weeks ) soon put an end to that . From memory, that was something like a figure of 240, compared with the AFL average of 80.
How anyone can even attempt to quantify Leppa's performance over the last 2 years is beyond me.
In fact, considering that we were widely regarded as cannon fodder even before the Injury Toll from Hell set in 2015, one could probably mount a cogent argument that he actually did pretty well.
The upset win over the Dogs in the last Round was as exhilarating as it was unexpected
He needs to get a decent go at it with a bit of room to breathe.
I fully support the decision to give him a two year extension.
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Redden is carrying an injury.
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A coach who's out of contract at the end of the season isn't like a player who's out of contract at the end of season. Clubs don't let a coach's contract run down that far unless they're halfway out the door- a lame duck, essentially. External pressure has nothing to do with it, that's just the way things work. Players aren't sure whether the coach will be there next season, the coach needs wins to save their job. Short-termism and uncertainty do not breed success in this league. Choosing the middle ground would've been fence sitting of the worst kind, basically an admission that the club had little faith in Leppa but couldn't find someone better either. Looking at re-negotiating late in the season would've been a disastrous option- there's a good chance we would've ended up in the same situation as 2013. What's the definition of insanity? Like I said, there's no middle ground if we're being realistic.
In addition to other points some people have made, overrating our list and expecting better performances than we are capable of doesn't mean the coach is terrible. I've thought where we've finished and the number of wins we've had is pretty much equal with the 22 we had on the park during the season. Sure maybe we could've won a couple more, but that's about it. If we shut down like a Ross Lyon team, maybe we could've lost by a little less in some of them too? But not sure.
In 3 off-seasons I think we've changed 34(?) players. This doesn't happen when 'it's the coach'.
Having said all that - I do believe that Leppa's real test starts now. If we don't improve over these two years, he'd have to go.
In 3 off-seasons I think we've changed 34(?) players. This doesn't happen when 'it's the coach'.
Having said all that - I do believe that Leppa's real test starts now. If we don't improve over these two years, he'd have to go.
Yes, that's fair.
Of course, we could have (yet) another disastrous year with injuries but putting that aside there would need to be a tangible improvement by the end of 2017 for him to reatain his job
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Pretty sure if we only get 2 or 3 wins this season Leppa will coach on.How is the youngest team in the league with average type injuries going to beat more than Ess or Blues types plus a couple of upsets ?How did GC and GWS go in their first couple of years ? This is where we are beginning.I am prepared for another bad year with Leppa at the helm,but won't be blaming him.
Ceebee are you saying Redden was carrying an injury last year (which is possible) or that he has a long term injury that will limit his output in the future, so his loss is not as great as some believe, or am I reading too much into a simple comment?
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Off the AFL website. Has an abductor injury. Not sure if he had it last year.
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very interesting.
Did Hammo then agree not to speculate about Leppa's job security until 2018?
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Do you reckon the messiah Roosy would have done a better job than Leppa over the last 2 years? Nah, I reckon not.
I think we could've had Alistair Clarkson for the last 2 years and done very similarly well (badly).
Capper is such a wildcard - I'm going to say that he would've gotten us to the top 8.
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So now Leppa is Clarkson?
I'll back the club in. 1 year deal show that they're not completely sold on whether or not Leppa is the guy to take us forward. When we do get that magical season with no injuries then we can judge him further.
Precisely what I was saying.
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I somewhat agree with Dylan12 but you have to put it in perspective. We had 20+ injured players IIRC at times last year. Any coach would have finished bottom 4 with that. I will give Leppa this year though with a healthy list to limit blow-outs and to get percentage close to 100. We should beat bottom 8 teams just from our midfield strength alone but it ight take a season for them to work together as a unit considering we have brought in 3 more mids and our first team midfield didn't play many games together last season.
If Leppa fails again (bottom 3) with a healthy list then I think he may get a tap on the shoulder to years end. This is a developmental year but if we just scrap out of the bottom 4 and our youngsters haven't improved as hoped then Leppa may be in a bit of trouble as well IMO.
If Leppa fails again (bottom 3) with a healthy list then I think he may get a tap on the shoulder to years end. This is a developmental year but if we just scrap out of the bottom 4 and our youngsters haven't improved as hoped then Leppa may be in a bit of trouble as well IMO.
