List Mgmt. Lets Be Aggressive

[SpudsLoveChild]

Senior List Depth Chart

Rucks:

Ivan Maric 200cm 102kg 124 games 28 years old 2016

Shaun Hampson 201cm 104kg 74 games 26 years old 2016

Orren Stephenson 200cm 104kg 15 games 31 years old 2014


KPF:

Jack Riewoldt 195cm 95kg 149 games 25 years old 2016

Tyrone Vickery 200cm 97kg 85 games 24 years old 2016

Ben Griffiths 200cm 104kg 29 games 22 years old 2014

Liam McBean 200cm 90kg 0 games 19 years old 2014


Medium Forwards:

Ben Lennon 190cm 82kg 5 games 19 years old 2015

Brett O’Hanlon 189cm 89kg 9 games 21 years old 2014

Nathan Gordon 188cm 86kg 7 games 24 years old 2015

Aaron Edwards 184m 93kg 94 games 30 years old 2014

Chris Knights 184cm 83kg 101 games 27 years old 2015

Cadeyn Williams 186cm 86kg 0 games 20 years old 2014


Small Forwards:

Shane Edwards 182cm 83kg 144 games 25 years old 2016

Sam Lloyd 182cm 84kg 5 games 24 years old 2015

Matthew McDonough 180cm 84kg 8 games 20 years old 2014

Jake King 178cm 82kg 107 games 30 years old 2014

Todd Banfield 183cm 83kg 53 games 24 years old 2014


KPD:

Alex Rance 194cm 96kg 99 games 24 years old 2015

Troy Chaplin 195cm 99kg 177 games 28 years old 2016

David Astbury 195cm 96kg 37 games 23 years old 2014

Dylan Grimes 193cm 88kg 37 games 23 years old 2015

Todd Elton 197cm 97kg 1 game 21 year old 2014

Ben Darrou 190cm 97kg 0 games 20 year old 2014


Medium Defenders:

Steve Morris 185cm 83kg 57 games 25 years old 2017

Jake Batchelor 188cm 87kg 44 games 22 years old 2014

Matthew Dea 186cm 87kg 31 games 22 years old 2014

Bradley Helbig 185cm 85kg 16 games 22 years old 2014


Small Defenders:

Bachar Houli 180cm 86kg 106 games 26 years old 2016

Chris Newman 183cm 81kg 243 games 32 years old 2014


Inside Midfielders:

Trent Cotchin 185cm 85kg 123 games 24 years old 2015

Anthony Miles 179cm 78kg 15 games 22 years old 2014

Daniel Jackson 188cm 92kg 155 games 28 year old 2015

Matt Thomas 186cm 87kg 97 games 27 years old 2014

Nathan Foley 178cm 79kg 146 games 28 years old 2015

Matt Arnot 180cm 86kg 8 games 20 years old 2014


Hybrid Midfielders:

Brett Deledio 188cm 88kg 206 games 27 years old 2017

Dustin Martin 187cm 89kg 101 games 23 years old 2015

Reece Conca 185cm 83kg 65 games 22 years old 2016

Ricky Petterd 185cm 85kg 76 games 26 years old 2015

Nick Vlastuin 187cm 86kg 30 games 20 years old 2016


Outside Midfielders:

Brandon Ellis 181cm 81kg 57 games 21 years old 2015

Shaun Grigg 190cm 85kg 119 games 26 years old 2015

Kamdyn McIntosh 192cm 87kg 0 games 20 years old 2014


From the above depth list the changes I would be looking at making are:

Delisted:

Chris Newman 183cm 81kg 243 games 32 years old 2014

Aaron Edwards 184m 93kg 94 games 30 years old 2014

Jake King 178cm 82kg 107 games 30 years old 2014

Bradley Helbig 185cm 85kg 16 games 22 years old 2014

Matt Arnot 180cm 86kg 8 games 20 years old 2014

All 5 are delisted as I don’t see any of them getting us anything of value at the trade table. The final 2 spots I have 3 players in contention for, they being Arnot Helbig & O'Hanlon. The thing that saves O'Hanlon is his size and flexibility. At 189cm/89kg he can play as a tall winger or a 3rd tall forward. I realise that Helbig and Arnot can also play multiple positions, but sub 185cm midfielder/flankers are a dime a dozen, tall midfielders/forwards with good foot skills aren't.


Trade Table:

Daniel Jackson 188cm 92kg 155 games 28 year old 2015

Dylan Grimes 193cm 88kg 37 games 23 years old 2015

Ben Griffiths 200cm 104kg 29 games 22 years old 2014

Shaun Grigg 190cm 85kg 119 games 26 years old 2015

Jake Batchelor 188cm 87kg 44 games 22 years old 2014

Matthew Dea 186cm 87kg 31 games 22 years old 2014

Not all of these guys are getting traded, so before everyone loses their minds, lets just get that clear. What I'd be looking at is trading 3 of them if possible.

1. All the whispers at the moment are about Griffiths wanting out, if that is the case then I'd be hoping that a 200cm/104kg KPF who can play some ruck sees a bidding war develop. Saints Lions Dogs Fremantle Carlton are all players with picks in the 15-25 range of the draft and all 5 could do with Griffiths on their lists. So getting a pick in this area for us would be a good return on our initial investment on Griffiths.

2. Jackson/Grigg would be a handy addition for a young side looking for some mature bodies to help their kids develop or a team thinking they are close to a flag. Either one IMO would net us a second round pick from a rebuilding side, while we might be able to snare a late first round pick(might take packaging our 2nd round pick) from a side thinking they are close. Put both on the table and see what comes of it, they might not get anything of real value and we keep them. Some will suggest trying to trade a contracted player out is dangerous as if it doesn't work you get s disgruntled player on your list, I'd hope that both would be smart enough to understand that it's business not personal.

3. Grimes/Batchelor/Dea looking at the roles these 3 are best suited to I think we can afford to trade one of them out in the search for a pick in the second round. I think Grimes is capable of getting a second round pick on his own, while Batchelor/Dea would have to be packaged with a draft pick to get it done. Like Jackson/Grigg above I see them being handy for a rebuilding side or a side thinking they are close to challenging.

Summary:
From this aggressive list management we would free up 5 spots immediately which would then allow us to elevate say Miles & Darrou or Thomas to the senior list. With the trade bait we might be able to get ourselves right into the second round of the draft with 3-4 picks to really go hard at snaring some new kids. This might be a pipe dream but if we worked it right we could end up with picks 7, 17, 21, 27, 34 & 45 in the draft. Adding 6 kids from the top 45 of the draft while losing predominately under performing players would be a decent return from a horror year results wise.

You mentioned Griff and hearing whispers that he wanted out. What's the source?

 

[SpudsLoveChild]

I'll never understand the trade Lids argument.
He's a walk up start at any club. Great vision, uses the ball beautifully and runs all day. He's never going to be that hard in and under player that some expect him to be...but he's silk in a team that is short on class.

 

[TheTigerArmy]

Senior List Depth Chart

Rucks:

Ivan Maric 200cm 102kg 124 games 28 years old 2016

Shaun Hampson 201cm 104kg 74 games 26 years old 2016

Orren Stephenson 200cm 104kg 15 games 31 years old 2014


KPF:

Jack Riewoldt 195cm 95kg 149 games 25 years old 2016

Tyrone Vickery 200cm 97kg 85 games 24 years old 2016

Ben Griffiths 200cm 104kg 29 games 22 years old 2014

Liam McBean 200cm 90kg 0 games 19 years old 2014


Medium Forwards:

Ben Lennon 190cm 82kg 5 games 19 years old 2015

Brett O’Hanlon 189cm 89kg 9 games 21 years old 2014

Nathan Gordon 188cm 86kg 7 games 24 years old 2015

Aaron Edwards 184m 93kg 94 games 30 years old 2014

Chris Knights 184cm 83kg 101 games 27 years old 2015

Cadeyn Williams 186cm 86kg 0 games 20 years old 2014


Small Forwards:

Shane Edwards 182cm 83kg 144 games 25 years old 2016

Sam Lloyd 182cm 84kg 5 games 24 years old 2015

Matthew McDonough 180cm 84kg 8 games 20 years old 2014

Jake King 178cm 82kg 107 games 30 years old 2014

Todd Banfield 183cm 83kg 53 games 24 years old 2014


KPD:

Alex Rance 194cm 96kg 99 games 24 years old 2015

Troy Chaplin 195cm 99kg 177 games 28 years old 2016

David Astbury 195cm 96kg 37 games 23 years old 2014

Dylan Grimes 193cm 88kg 37 games 23 years old 2015

Todd Elton 197cm 97kg 1 game 21 year old 2014

Ben Darrou 190cm 97kg 0 games 20 year old 2014


Medium Defenders:

Steve Morris 185cm 83kg 57 games 25 years old 2017

Jake Batchelor 188cm 87kg 44 games 22 years old 2014

Matthew Dea 186cm 87kg 31 games 22 years old 2014

Bradley Helbig 185cm 85kg 16 games 22 years old 2014


Small Defenders:

Bachar Houli 180cm 86kg 106 games 26 years old 2016

Chris Newman 183cm 81kg 243 games 32 years old 2014


Inside Midfielders:

Trent Cotchin 185cm 85kg 123 games 24 years old 2015

Anthony Miles 179cm 78kg 15 games 22 years old 2014

Daniel Jackson 188cm 92kg 155 games 28 year old 2015

Matt Thomas 186cm 87kg 97 games 27 years old 2014

Nathan Foley 178cm 79kg 146 games 28 years old 2015

Matt Arnot 180cm 86kg 8 games 20 years old 2014


Hybrid Midfielders:

Brett Deledio 188cm 88kg 206 games 27 years old 2017

Dustin Martin 187cm 89kg 101 games 23 years old 2015

Reece Conca 185cm 83kg 65 games 22 years old 2016

Ricky Petterd 185cm 85kg 76 games 26 years old 2015

Nick Vlastuin 187cm 86kg 30 games 20 years old 2016


Outside Midfielders:

Brandon Ellis 181cm 81kg 57 games 21 years old 2015

Shaun Grigg 190cm 85kg 119 games 26 years old 2015

Kamdyn McIntosh 192cm 87kg 0 games 20 years old 2014


From the above depth list the changes I would be looking at making are:

Delisted:

Chris Newman 183cm 81kg 243 games 32 years old 2014

Aaron Edwards 184m 93kg 94 games 30 years old 2014

Jake King 178cm 82kg 107 games 30 years old 2014

Bradley Helbig 185cm 85kg 16 games 22 years old 2014

Matt Arnot 180cm 86kg 8 games 20 years old 2014

All 5 are delisted as I don’t see any of them getting us anything of value at the trade table. The final 2 spots I have 3 players in contention for, they being Arnot Helbig & O'Hanlon. The thing that saves O'Hanlon is his size and flexibility. At 189cm/89kg he can play as a tall winger or a 3rd tall forward. I realise that Helbig and Arnot can also play multiple positions, but sub 185cm midfielder/flankers are a dime a dozen, tall midfielders/forwards with good foot skills aren't.


Trade Table:

Daniel Jackson 188cm 92kg 155 games 28 year old 2015

Dylan Grimes 193cm 88kg 37 games 23 years old 2015

Ben Griffiths 200cm 104kg 29 games 22 years old 2014

Shaun Grigg 190cm 85kg 119 games 26 years old 2015

Jake Batchelor 188cm 87kg 44 games 22 years old 2014

Matthew Dea 186cm 87kg 31 games 22 years old 2014

Not all of these guys are getting traded, so before everyone loses their minds, lets just get that clear. What I'd be looking at is trading 3 of them if possible.

1. All the whispers at the moment are about Griffiths wanting out, if that is the case then I'd be hoping that a 200cm/104kg KPF who can play some ruck sees a bidding war develop. Saints Lions Dogs Fremantle Carlton are all players with picks in the 15-25 range of the draft and all 5 could do with Griffiths on their lists. So getting a pick in this area for us would be a good return on our initial investment on Griffiths.

2. Jackson/Grigg would be a handy addition for a young side looking for some mature bodies to help their kids develop or a team thinking they are close to a flag. Either one IMO would net us a second round pick from a rebuilding side, while we might be able to snare a late first round pick(might take packaging our 2nd round pick) from a side thinking they are close. Put both on the table and see what comes of it, they might not get anything of real value and we keep them. Some will suggest trying to trade a contracted player out is dangerous as if it doesn't work you get s disgruntled player on your list, I'd hope that both would be smart enough to understand that it's business not personal.

3. Grimes/Batchelor/Dea looking at the roles these 3 are best suited to I think we can afford to trade one of them out in the search for a pick in the second round. I think Grimes is capable of getting a second round pick on his own, while Batchelor/Dea would have to be packaged with a draft pick to get it done. Like Jackson/Grigg above I see them being handy for a rebuilding side or a side thinking they are close to challenging.

Summary:
From this aggressive list management we would free up 5 spots immediately which would then allow us to elevate say Miles & Darrou or Thomas to the senior list. With the trade bait we might be able to get ourselves right into the second round of the draft with 3-4 picks to really go hard at snaring some new kids. This might be a pipe dream but if we worked it right we could end up with picks 7, 17, 21, 27, 34 & 45 in the draft. Adding 6 kids from the top 45 of the draft while losing predominately under performing players would be a decent return from a horror year results wise.

I wouldnt be putting Grimes or batchelor out their for trade as i think both wiill develop into good backs especially Grimes

 

[SpudsLoveChild]

Bit harsh on Giuseppe.

Mate I think they're gunning for you next.

 

[TheTigerArmy]

Can't delist contracted players.

Yep the rest beside these ones id delist..

 

[theflea]

Retire:
King
Newman

Delist:
A Edwards
Helbig
Arnot
Knight (pay out 3rd year. His body will never be right)
Gordon (pay out 2nd year)
Banfield (r)
Williams (r)

Retain Thomas & Stephenson, promote Miles & Darrou (lack of the KPD depth)

Trade:
Grimes for a top 30 pick (if we can't get top 30, then keep)
Griff for a top 30 pick (if we can't get top 30, then keep)

So you would pay out contracted players, of which their money still go in their finals years' cap, so we can get more players in, but then we cant afford to pay them because we still have to pay the contracted delisted players? Sorry but a, we wont pay out contracts early, and b, it doesn't make economic sense anyway.

 

[Albert Ross]

Bit harsh on Giuseppe.

Bloke needs to put his head over the gatorade bottles ... and if I see him miss one more zipper !!

 

[3rdManUp]

Bit harsh on Giuseppe.

I've seen those lawns Stig! Dud, delist

BTW, I'm not saying that all these people aren't doing their jobs. I have no idea how to run a football department (unlike 99.9% of Bigfooty )
But I do know that investing into getting the best people on that list translates directly to on-field success. It would be fantastic to see some extra coaches added, or even a position that is totally novel and out of the box.

Example: I know you have a psychologist on board but what about a neuropsychologist? They can create programs that increase attention, focus and decision making skills. This is a part of what I do (And by the way, Richo is spot on about the goal posts), and I'm confident that having someone in that role with AFL experience (which isn't me unfortunately ) would improve a number of skills.

Lastly, is there any discussions happening in regards to adding onto the football dept Stig?

Do we have a knight in shining in armour?

 

[DontArgue4]

I've seen those lawns Stig! Dud, delist

BTW, I'm not saying that all these people aren't doing their jobs. I have no idea how to run a football department (unlike 99.9% of Bigfooty )
But I do know that investing into getting the best people on that list translates directly to on-field success. It would be fantastic to see some extra coaches added, or even a position that is totally novel and out of the box.

Example: I know you have a psychologist on board but what about a neuropsychologist? They can create programs that increase attention, focus and decision making skills. This is a part of what I do (And by the way, Richo is spot on about the goal posts), and I'm confident that having someone in that role with AFL experience (which isn't me unfortunately ) would improve a number of skills.

Lastly, is there any discussions happening in regards to adding onto the football dept Stig?

Do we have a knight in shining in armour?

#hirehooch

#standbyhooch

 

[Del65166]

Enlighten me as to why we have a boxing coach?????

MMA coach would be more progressive...might help players at bottom of packs, or being tackled, get the ball out

 

[Del65166]

#standbygiuseppe

 

[RFC_Official]

#standbygiuseppe

#ingiuseppewetrust

 

[RFC_Official]

I've seen those lawns Stig! Dud, delist

Example: I know you have a psychologist on board but what about a neuropsychologist?

Lastly, is there any discussions happening in regards to adding onto the football dept Stig?

Do we have a knight in shining in armour?

Our groundskeeper isnt even listed on that page, lucky for him!

We do not have a neuropsychologist.

Im sure there are plenty of discussions around the shaping of the football department, tweaks here and there like every year.

I think the "knight in shining armour" like a "messiah" or a "big fish" is something that we don't believe in, it will take a team effort from a lot of people to right things, there likely won't be one person that gets us up the ladder and back into finals.

 

[Del65166]

MMA coach would be more progressive...might help players at bottom of packs, or being tackled, get the ball out

With the bump on the way out maybe there are some MMA/ muay thai moves that can incapacitate key opposition players for say, 1 or 2 hours. but cause no long term injury.

Brian lake's sleeper hold was good - but a bit old school.

 

[RichoLedio]

With the bump on the way out maybe there are some MMA/ muay thai moves that can incapacitate key opposition players for say, 1 or 2 hours. but cause no long term injury.

Brian lake's sleeper hold was good - but a bit old school.

Get Juddy in to coach us in pressure point moves

 

[a_fighting_fury]

Bit harsh on Giuseppe.

So you agree on the rest?

Interesting Freudian slip there, RFC_Official

 

[Mr Magic]

Griffiths has shown glimpses of what he can do, unfortunately for him and us though, those glimpses aren't often enough to have him secure a spot in our best 22. However at a club like the ones I mentioned where he would be the focal point of a forward line, those glimpses might become more consistent. Like I said it is all about creating/hoping that a bidding war happens.


Interesting idea no doubt that us keyboard warriors know better than what the clubs recruiters/list managers know.

If you look at the depth chart I put up, Griffiths sits 3rd/4th in line for that KPF spot in our side, he also sits 4th/5th in our ruck options. At a rebuilding club like the ones that I mentioned he would be 1st/2nd on their lists given most of those clubs don't have a ready to go option currently on their lists. That is what we'd be hoping creates the bidding war for him. It's not like you're trading a dime a dozen run of the mill midfielder/flanker, you're trading out a KPF/ruck and when you look at what they are worth to teams an early second rounder is around the mark.

When you look at the top end of the draft and what these teams could pick up they have a chance to really shore up their KPP stocks moving forward. Saints & Lions in particular could go out and take McCartin or Durden with their first pick add Griffiths with their second round pick and their KPP stocks are looking a lot better than they currently do. They could even go and pick up Petracca if they rated him the best kid and bolster both their midfields and KPF stocks with their first 2 picks and both players would be able to play from round 1 next year.

I have a different depth chart, he is second after JR for KPF for mine

 

[richoatthedisco]

What does the colour code mean, _RT_?

 

[_RT_]

What does the colour code mean, _RT_?

Red is the players coming out of contract be that senior list or rookies, Green is players that are still contracted for next year meaning they are a little harder to move on. Understand I have some contracted players listed on my trade bait list, but I do think those that are going to be entering the last year of a contract can be moved on if they are of the belief that their might be better opportunity elsewhere.

 

[Googstar]

From the Tiger Sanctuary, contracts expiring 2014 (* to be confirmed)

#1 Chris Newman, #7 Matt Dea *, #11 Jake Batchelor, #12 David Astbury #24 Ben Griffiths, #27 Aaron Edwards,
#28 Jake King, #32 Brad Helbig *, #33 Kamdyn McIntosh, #34 Liam McBean, #36 Matthew McDonough, #43 Todd Elton
#44 Matt Arnott *, #45 Brett O'Hanlon *

Contracts expiring 2015

#2 Dylan Grimes, #4 Dustin Martin, #5 Brandon Ellis, #6 Shaun Grigg, #9 Trent Cotchin, #13 Ricky Petterd *
#15 Chris Knights , #18 Alex Rance, #23 Daniel Jackson, #39 Nathan Gordon, #41 Nathan Foley, #42 Sam Lloyd.

Contracts expiring 2016

#8 Jack Riewoldt, #10 Shane Edwards, #14 Bachar Houli, #16 Shaun Hampson *, #20 Ivan Maric, #25 Troy Chaplin
#29 Tyrone Vickery, #30 Reece Conca, #31 Nick Vlastuin.

Contracts expiring 2017

#3 Brett Deledio & #38 Steven Morris.

Plus from Rookie List

#19 Matt Thomas (unknown), #22 Todd Banfield (unknown), #26 Anthony Miles (unknown)
#40 Cadeyn Williams (expires 2014) * & #48 Ben Darrou (expires 2014) *

That means we have to make 14 calls on Senior Listed Players and at least 2 Rookie calls. Each Club must make at least 3 changes to their list every year. So to get the ball rolling;

Delist/Retire: Newman, A Edwards, & King.
Trade/Delist: Dea, Batchelor, Griffiths, Helbig, Arnott, O'Hanlon
Re-sign: Astbury, McBean, McDonough
Undecided: McIntosh, Elton, Williams, Darrou. Would be nice to see them in the 1's to get a better idea.
Promote: Miles

That's 9 off, 1 on and 4 to be decided.

 

[Wallaby]

Everybody is tradeable - Rance, Riewoldt, Cotchin............everybody.

If we reckon we get more than we give, we do the trade. Now, those 3 guys up there seem 'untouchable' - but what if a Cameron, or Patton, or Fyfe, or Dangerfield or suchlike come on the market? (In the past names like Ablett, Franklin, Judd have moved - Franklin via F/A). If we want one of those types, we have to give something back. We won't have a No 1 or No 2 pick to trade either.

Free agency - well, that's different. If w want a good one - like Goddard - we have to clear salary cap space there - so if we are tight we could trade a high earner (like Deledio) for draft picks (which come with cheap salaries for the first couple of years).

Every player on the list can't be a star - if so, we blow our salary cap. HOWEVER - we are in the situation where we don't have enough top-liners to compete - so we have to find some. That means either in the draft, or via trade (as we did for Miles), or via Rookie.

So we may have to delist some players who may still make it, but are only ever going to be fillers - great if we have 5-6 in the side - they do a particular job - but we have 10-12. So we have to be aggressive at finding top-liners. OK - maybe trade - but even our 'successes' there - Houli, Grigg, Morris, Chaplin - are easily replaceable. We need to draft more kids. We need 3-4 picks in the top 25. (Yes, I know we had 5 in the top 20 in 2004 and f*cked up 4 of them - the principle stands).

I think we need to trade for draft picks - then with the salary cap relief, go after some big F/A targets. Which players will attract high draft picks - our stars, or our very good players. If I could get 2xTop 10 picks for Cotchin, I would take it.

 

[3rdManUp]

Our groundskeeper isnt even listed on that page, lucky for him!

We do not have a neuropsychologist.
.

Should totally look into a cognitive neuropsych! They will turn the team into a bunch of Pendleburys': Threading a handball to an open team mate, while in heavy congestion, in the blink of an eye

I think the "knight in shining armour" like a "messiah" or a "big fish" is something that we don't believe in

So no knights in shining armour huh,

#hirehooch

#standbyhooch

I genuinely lol'd

 

[Del65166]

Should totally look into a cognitive neuropsych! They will turn the team into a bunch of Pendleburys': Threading a handball to an open team mate, while in heavy congestion, in the blink of an eye


So no knights in shining armour huh,


I genuinely lol'd

training the team into a bunch of Neo s from the Matrix wouldn't be bad

 

[Del65166]

From the Tiger Sanctuary, contracts expiring 2014 (* to be confirmed)

#1 Chris Newman, #7 Matt Dea *, #11 Jake Batchelor, #12 David Astbury #24 Ben Griffiths, #27 Aaron Edwards,
#28 Jake King, #32 Brad Helbig *, #33 Kamdyn McIntosh, #34 Liam McBean, #36 Matthew McDonough, #43 Todd Elton
#44 Matt Arnott *, #45 Brett O'Hanlon *

Contracts expiring 2015

#2 Dylan Grimes, #4 Dustin Martin, #5 Brandon Ellis, #6 Shaun Grigg, #9 Trent Cotchin, #13 Ricky Petterd *
#15 Chris Knights , #18 Alex Rance, #23 Daniel Jackson, #39 Nathan Gordon, #41 Nathan Foley, #42 Sam Lloyd.

Contracts expiring 2016

#8 Jack Riewoldt, #10 Shane Edwards, #14 Bachar Houli, #16 Shaun Hampson *, #20 Ivan Maric, #25 Troy Chaplin
#29 Tyrone Vickery, #30 Reece Conca, #31 Nick Vlastuin.

Contracts expiring 2017

#3 Brett Deledio & #38 Steven Morris.

Plus from Rookie List

#19 Matt Thomas (unknown), #22 Todd Banfield (unknown), #26 Anthony Miles (unknown)
#40 Cadeyn Williams (expires 2014) * & #48 Ben Darrou (expires 2014) *

That means we have to make 14 calls on Senior Listed Players and at least 2 Rookie calls. Each Club must make at least 3 changes to their list every year. So to get the ball rolling;

Delist/Retire: Newman, A Edwards, & King.
Trade/Delist: Dea, Batchelor, Griffiths, Helbig, Arnott, O'Hanlon
Re-sign: Astbury, McBean, McDonough
Undecided: McIntosh, Elton, Williams, Darrou. Would be nice to see them in the 1's to get a better idea.
Promote: Miles

That's 9 off, 1 on and 4 to be decided.

Is Newman on the veterans' list - 1/2 his salary into the cap?

If so I'd keep him and

#7 Matt Dea *,
#11 Jake Batchelor,
#12 David Astbury
#24 Ben Griffiths,
#34 Liam McBean,
#36 Matthew McDonough,
#43 Todd Elton
#44 Matt Arnott *,

trade/delist
#45 Brett O'Hanlon * (unless he shows great form in rest of season)
#27 Aaron Edwards,
#28 Jake King,
#32 Brad Helbig *,
#33 Kamdyn McIntosh,

 

[_RT_]

Is Newman on the veterans' list - 1/2 his salary into the cap?

Only $100k from veterans comes off their contract value. So if Newman is on $350k we'd still have $250k counted. Newman should be gone at seasons end. The way it looks they are going to get him to his 250th which IMO is wrong if his form doesn't warrant it.