Lets re-visit the pick 6 curse

[Daytripper]

With another season almost at an end, we can now make further judgements on this cursed draft pick.

Last 10 years.

1998 : Murray Vance (delisted by Carlton)
1999 : Damian Cupido (delisted by Essendon)
2000 : Dylan Smith (delisted by Nth Melb)
2001 : Ashley Sampi (delisted by West Coast)
2002 : Steven Salopek (dropped by Port and trying to get back in the team via the SANFL)
2003 : Kepler Bradley (struggling at Fremantle)
2004 : Tom Williams (going ok at Bulldogs but is generally a much maligned player by the Bulldogs supporters)
2005 : Beau Dowler (finding it hard to get a game even with the Hawks having lots of injuries to KPP's.
2006 : Mitch Thorp (always injured but hasn't really set the football world on fire when available either)
2007 : David Myers (see Mitch Thorp)
2008 : Chris Yarran (poor work ethic and off field issues haven't exactly made for a great debut year.)

At this stage you would not be wanting to finish 12th as that would get you pick 6 (assuming Melbourne don't lose another game).

 

[w00dy]

compare that to the pick following it, number 7, and it makes for some interesting reading, as highlighted on Footy Classified last night...

2004 - Jordan Lewis
2005 - Paddy Ryder
2006 - Joel Selwood
2007 - Rhys Palmer
2008 - Daniel Rich

really seems to have been the case since 2004, but clubs drafting at pick 6 have really made some blues, given what has followed at pick 7...

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

I cringe every time I think we could have Selwood and Ryder running around in gold and brown.

 

[BOND 007]

I guess WC will be hoping they can stop the rot.

 

[Wizard]

Thats the beauty of West Coast winning on the weekend, Freo can have no worse then pick 5 now.

 

[NAUGHT5]

Still confident that Yarran will become an excellent player

 

[Wizard]

For West Coast?

 

[markr]

I'm a bit worried that the eagles will keep winning and steal our precious pick 7. The last thing we want is 6 again given our history with it.

 

[Silvagnis]

No curse unless you're a troll and/or an insecure Bombers fan...

There isn't a curse unless you're a troll or an insecure Essendon supporter.

Or both.

Approx. half of the pick fives are hacks or good to very good players.

Former pick sevens in Tenace, Roach, Angwin and Hale are awful.

Isn't Palmer a hack who can't kick and use the ball?

Pick ten will have you reaching for the razor blades.

[U]Pick one[/U]

1998: Des Headland
1999: Josh Fraser
2000: Nick Riewoldt
2001: Luke Hodge
2002: Brendan Goddard
2003: Adam Cooney
2004: Brett Deledio
2005: Marc Murphy
2006: Bryce Gibbs
2007: Matthew Kreuzer
2008: Jack Watts

[U]Pick two[/U]

1998: Justin Longmuir
1999: Paul Hasleby
2000: Justin Koschitzke
2001: Luke Ball
2002: Daniel Wells
2003: Andrew Walker
2004: Jarryd Roughead
2005: Dale Thomas
2006: Scott Gumbleton
2007: Trent Cotchin
2008: Nic Naitanui

[U]Pick three[/U]

1998: Nic Fosdike
1999: Aaron Fiora
2000: Alan Didak
2001: Chris Judd
2002: Jarred Brennan
2003: Colin Sylvia
2004: Ryan Griffen
2005: Xavier Ellis
2006: Lachlan Hansen
2007: Chris Masten
2008: Steven Hill

[U]Pick four[/U]

1998: Ryan Fitzgerald
1999: Matthew Pavlich
2000: Luke Livingston
2001: Graham Polak
2002: Tim Walsh 
2003: Farren Ray
2004: Richard Tambling
2005: Josh Kennedy 
2006: Matthew Leuenberger
2007: Cale Morton
2008: Hamish Hartlett

[U]Pick five[/U]

1998: Michael Stevens
1999: Leigh Brown
2000: Andrew McDougall
2001: Xavier Clarke
2002: Jarrad McVeigh
2003: Brock Mclean
2004: Lance Franklin
2005: Scott Pendlebury
2006: Travis Boak
2007: Jarrad Grant
2008: Michael Hurley

[U]Pick six[/U]

1998 : Murray Vance 
1999 : Damian Cupido
2000 : Dylan Smith 
2001 : Ashley Sampi 
2002 : Steven Salopek 
2003 : Kepler Bradley 
2004 : Tom Williams 
2005 : Beau Dowler 
2006 : Mitch Thorp 
2007 : David Myers 
2008 : Chris Yarran

[U]Pick 7[/U]

1998 : Josh Carr
1999 : Danny Roach
2000 : Laurence Angwin
2001 : David Hale
2002 : Andrew Mackie
2003 : Kane Tenace
2004 - Jordan Lewis
2005 - Paddy Ryder
2006 - Joel Selwood
2007 - Rhys Palmer
2008 - Daniel Rich

[U]Pick 8[/U]

1998 : Jude Bolton
1999 : Joel Corey
2000 : Daniel Motlop 
2001 : Jimmy Bartel
2002 : Luke Brennan
2003 : Raph Clarke
2004 : John Meesen
2005 : Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls
2006 : Ben Reid
2007 : Lachlan Henderson
2008 : Tyrone Vickery

[U]Pick 9[/U]

1998 : Mark McVeigh
1999 : Caydn Beetham
2000 : Kayne Pettifer
2001 : Luke Molan
2002 : Hamish McIntosh
2003 : David Trotter
2004 : Jordan Russell 
2005 : Mitch Clark
2006 : David Armitage
2007 : Ben McEvoy
2008 : Jack Ziebell

[U]Pick ten[/U]

1998: Brandon Hill
1999: Luke McPharlin
2000: Jordan McMahon
2001: Sam Power
2002: Jason Laycock
2003: Ryley Dunn
2004: Chris Egan
2005: Marcus Drum
2006: Nathan Brown
2007: Patrick Dangerfield
2008: Phil Davis

 

[Daytripper]

Re: No curse unless you're a troll and/or an insecure Bombers fan...

There isn't a curse unless you're a troll or an insecure Essendon supporter.

Or both.

Approx. half of the pick fives are hacks or good to very good players.

Former pick sevens in Tenace, Roach, Angwin and Hale are awful.

Isn't Palmer a hack who can't kick and use the ball?

Pick ten will have you reaching for the razor blades.

At least pick 10 had McPharlin, Nathan Brown and Dangerfield.

Pick 6 has been rubbish overall but I think the point has gone over your head.

 

[Vader]

Re: No curse unless you're a troll and/or an insecure Bombers fan...

At least pick 10 had McPharlin, Nathan Brown and Dangerfield.

Pick 6 has been rubbish overall but I think the point has gone over your head.

Crows fans have high hopes for Phil Davis as well - but after 12 months it's way too early to tell. All the signs so far have been good though.

 

[Lionheart182]

Re: No curse unless you're a troll and/or an insecure Bombers fan...

At least pick 10 had McPharlin, Nathan Brown and Dangerfield.

Pick 6 has been rubbish overall but I think the point has gone over your head.

Yeah, definately think there are more hacks in pick 6 than other picks on that table.

Had no idea McDougall was pick 5. That's crazy talk

 

[adagio]

The success/failure of each pick seems to run in trends, funnily enough..

Look at pick #8 - Bolton, Corey, Motlop & Bartel in successive years.. then it turns to s**t.

Other than Pavlich, pick #4 seemed pretty cursed for a while too - but the last 4 years have produced Kennedy, Leunberger, Morton & Hartlett, while all of a sudden Ray and Tambling are starting to show a little.

After extended runs of crapness, I reckon picks 6 and 10 are both starting to turn.

p.s. Get a load of the duds from 2000!!

 

[Invigoration]

Gez I had no idea Pettifer was an early pick, that makes it even worse. I always had the impression he was just a numpty rookie upgrade.

Pick 3 is a decent pick, some of the guys have just taken longer to come on (Didak, Sylvia, Ellis to extent who was very slight/in yr.12). If Lachie Hansen comes on it ends up being a very good pick after 1999.

Pick 6 would bring nightmares, Salopek and Williams are the only two you would even consider.

 

[wixism]

Re: No curse unless you're a troll and/or an insecure Bombers fan...

Isn't Palmer a hack who can't kick and use the ball?

Palmer is a freak and will be a superstar. Only if he had someone he could kick it too.

 

[Bananayard]

Re: No curse unless you're a troll and/or an insecure Bombers fan...

Yarran is the worst of the lot.

 

[Hawks1523]

I cringe every time I think we could have Selwood and Ryder running around in gold and brown.

How depressing is it!

 

[Selective Retention]

For West Coast?

Kennedy suddenly looks like a decent prospect rather than a draft blunder since leaving Carlton. There is a trend there.

 

[jonesy86]

It all depends how long Yarran spends 'developing' at Carlton.

Kennedy was only there for 2 years and it has taken the best part of another 2 years to see some positive signs from him.

 

[LemmingMaster]

Kennedy suddenly looks like a decent prospect rather than a draft blunder since leaving Carlton. There is a trend there.

I agree, you need to give a KPP time to develop. Good work spotting the trend, move straight to the top of the class.

 

[PAFC_1870]

Bit of an insult that Salopek is mentioned in this, he is head and shoulders above everyone on that list.

 

[adagio]

It all depends how long Yarran spends 'developing' at Carlton.

Kennedy was only there for 2 years and it has taken the best part of another 2 years to see some positive signs from him.

He actually showed very positive signs last year too, but had his season cut short by injury. The scary thing is he's only 21.

This thread just really makes me feel sorry for Richmond.

 

[Armitage2Riewoldt]

Bit of an insult that Salopek is mentioned in this, he is head and shoulders above everyone on that list.

Agreed. And he probably would have gone at no.3 had Carlton not screwed up in 2002. Was a Saints fan too I believe...

Oh well, can't really complain with Goddard.

 

[Ablettttttt!]

Bit of an insult that Salopek is mentioned in this, he is head and shoulders above everyone on that list.

WAS head and shoulders abover everyone, has had a horrible year so far and has gone downhill.

 

[PAFC_1870]

WAS head and shoulders abover everyone, has had a horrible year so far and has gone downhill.

so 1 year in what 7?

He has had a few injuries, his team has struggled, he is played out of position (backlines) and he struggles, and he's useless now?