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Chops18

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Trade made 0 sense. I accepted a long time ago that Lindor was going, i even started to ger excited at the thought of what we could get for him and then they pull that sh*t. We got Ernie Clement and Yu Chan on tbe roster and we got Gabriel Arias in the Clevenger trade and Tyler Freeman both coming up. Even JRam can move to SS with Nolan Jones ready to debut. Giminez could be a gem but he isn't a need, outfield is.

I really wanted us to deal with the Yankees and try to get Frazier back and Torres. Frazier would've been the perfect fit for us and Torres would've thrived at second for us.

Love this team but it's getting harder and harder to stay passionate.
 

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lionbear

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The issue for me about this trade is the ownership is officially not about winning it all,
They are about being good enough to attract crowds and revenue. It’s getting harder to watch the Indians when clearly winning pennants and getting to the World Series is not the number 1 priority
 

DFWGrapher

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Unfortunately that's the nature of the beast as a small market team, especially in baseball with their lack of a salary cap: unless you're the Yankees, Red Sox, Mets, Dodgers, Cubs, or a select few others, you get a small window to try to win before you have to blow it up and start the process over again. I remember watching Game 3 of the 2017 ALDS, gnawing my fingernails off and telling my wife's family (whose house we were at) that if the Indians didn't win it tonight we were looking at this being it until 2022, minimum. When Greg Bird homered, I told them that's it, this series is over and the Tribe's window is closed. They all thought I was nuts, but so far I've been right.

Lindor wasn't himself last year and has looked bad in the spring this year (small sample size, I know, but 2 for 13 is a bad stretch). I think the 2019 ankle injury is affecting him more that he cares to admit, and the trade netted them two guys with a lot of potential, including one who by many accounts just needs a change in scenery to have a chance to thrive in Gimenez. It clears the books, nets a couple prospects, and starts on a true youth movement.

We've been here before, this shouldn't be unexpected. But I feel better about this rebuild than a lot of others done by this organization.
 

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Not a good start. I know, small sample size, only a week in, anything can happen in a four-game stretch, cold weather = cold bats, whatever.

But I'm not liking this. Having a 3.71 ERA as a team should result in a record of better than 1-3, especially when those four games are against teams projected to finish behind you in the standings.

Every year there is a player whose existence on the roster is completely inexplicable and I want to set fire to them. Ben Gamel has already established himself in this role for 2021. He is a fungus.
 

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For better or for worse, I have a feeling that Tito may end up like Tom Kelly in Minnesota: come in, turn them into a contender immediately, and by doing so be granted the ability to keep the job until he no longer wants it regardless of results. His contract is through 2022 as well; and with this team's financial problems I don't see them buying him out without a disastrous season.

Granted, last year's health issues may cause him to step down sooner, and Alomar has proven himself capable (and has been rumored for openings for the better part of a decade).
 

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