Let's talk Ports! Part 3

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NoddyHolder

Norm Smith Medallist
Mar 2, 2014
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Port Adelaide has always understood how important it is for supporters to be able to have actual contact with players. It forges a special bond between club and supporters. The Che Cockatoo-Collins anecdote is something that Port just do time and again.

As a supporter, it was always special in the 80s and 90s being able to go up to the McLean room post-match and talk with the players.
When i was a kid in the 70s and 80s I loved getting to Alberton early and hanging around the gates for when the league players arrived and pestered them for autographs. The best was Dave Granger. He gave all the time in the world, chatting, joking, etc. I loved him and it hurt me deeply when they said mean things about him in the papers.
 

RossFC

Moderator
May 23, 2012
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“We’re now at a point where we have written to the AFL to highlight that these issues, when grouped, see us competing under materially different conditions to those of our AFL competitors. There can be no denying that the current environment compromises our ability to develop the talent available to our playing list when compared to our competitors in the AFL competition. - Chris Davies

Differing rules and limitations:

  • Access to state league contracted players
  • Access to Next Generation Academy and father-son players
  • Differing rules, ie. stand on the mark rule, 3rd man up at ruck contests, last touch out of bounds, medical substitute
 

Doctor Feel

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Mar 30, 2009
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“We’re now at a point where we have written to the AFL to highlight that these issues, when grouped, see us competing under materially different conditions to those of our AFL competitors. There can be no denying that the current environment compromises our ability to develop the talent available to our playing list when compared to our competitors in the AFL competition. - Chris Davies

Differing rules and limitations:

  • Access to state league contracted players
  • Access to Next Generation Academy and father-son players
  • Differing rules, ie. stand on the mark rule, 3rd man up at ruck contests, last touch out of bounds, medical substitute
Yeahhhh Chris - noice.
 

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DaTBird187

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Feb 9, 2014
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“We’re now at a point where we have written to the AFL to highlight that these issues, when grouped, see us competing under materially different conditions to those of our AFL competitors. There can be no denying that the current environment compromises our ability to develop the talent available to our playing list when compared to our competitors in the AFL competition. - Chris Davies

Differing rules and limitations:

  • Access to state league contracted players
  • Access to Next Generation Academy and father-son players
  • Differing rules, ie. stand on the mark rule, 3rd man up at ruck contests, last touch out of bounds, medical substitute
 

DEUS

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May 3, 2018
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When i was a kid in the 70s and 80s I loved getting to Alberton early and hanging around the gates for when the league players arrived and pestered them for autographs. The best was Dave Granger. He gave all the time in the world, chatting, joking, etc. I loved him and it hurt me deeply when they said mean things about him in the papers.
What mean things


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Ford Fairlane

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“We’re now at a point where we have written to the AFL to highlight that these issues, when grouped, see us competing under materially different conditions to those of our AFL competitors. There can be no denying that the current environment compromises our ability to develop the talent available to our playing list when compared to our competitors in the AFL competition. - Chris Davies

Differing rules and limitations:

  • Access to state league contracted players
  • Access to Next Generation Academy and father-son players
  • Differing rules, ie. stand on the mark rule, 3rd man up at ruck contests, last touch out of bounds, medical substitute
Yeah Chris, go you good thing.

Time to pack up and get out of the shitshow where we are not appreciated or treated fairly.
 

Steve Dore

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Or an AFL take over of the sanfl
They've tried. The AFL want the SNAFL to become AFLSA which would mean a lot more money going to grass roots footy in SA but it would mean that the current SNAFL power brokers would lose their power. The SNAFL do what is best for the people running the SNAFL, not what is best for footy in SA.
 

Tibbs

Norm Smith Medallist
Sep 9, 2013
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When i was a kid in the 70s and 80s I loved getting to Alberton early and hanging around the gates for when the league players arrived and pestered them for autographs. The best was Dave Granger. He gave all the time in the world, chatting, joking, etc. I loved him and it hurt me deeply when they said mean things about him in the papers.
What a character! I remember playing a game of golf down at West Beach back in 1980 or so, and it was a busy day, with our foursome getting held up by slow play in front. In turn, we were holding up the group behind us, which happened to include Dave Granger. At the par 3, the group in front of us called us up to hit our tee shots, but when it was our turn, we forgot to call up the dudes behind us. After putting out we moved off and watched them hit up and come to the green, and we realized it was a bunch of Port boys, being led by none other than big bad Grave Danger!

The next hole was a big wait and they caught up with us waiting to hit off on the next tee. Man I was kakking my daks! As he walked up to us & I thought I better apologise, which I did. But he was just as nice as Pie. All of us were port supporters, so we chatted about how Port were going, and pretty much exchanged chit chat every hole after that.

Changed my view of him completely.
 

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Papa G

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Apr 13, 2006
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They've tried. The AFL want the SNAFL to become AFLSA which would mean a lot more money going to grass roots footy in SA but it would mean that the current SNAFL power brokers would lose their power. The SNAFL do what is best for the people running the SNAFL, not what is best for footy in SA.
I'm honestly not so sure about that. The AFL is owned and funded by the Victorian Government, who obviously have a Victoria First, second and third focus. I'm not so sure that handing over control of all football to them is ideal. The SANFL are provincial campaigners. The AFL are bigger provincial campaigners.
 

Interstater

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Jun 7, 2015
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I'm honestly not so sure about that. The AFL is owned and funded by the Victorian Government, who obviously have a Victoria First, second and third focus. I'm not so sure that handing over control of all football to them is ideal. The SANFL are provincial campaigners. The AFL are bigger provincial campaigners.
And what jumper would we be allowed to wear.
 

Enviable Tradition

Professional Procrastinator
Oct 12, 2007
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I'd give up our reserves playing in the bars in a heartbeat to have our club playing to the rules and regulations of the big league with no caps on how we develop and play our talent.

There are some battles you need to pick, and others you need to let go for tangible benefit.
Only if both the league and the reserves can wear the bars at least 3 times a year (2 x showdowns, 1 x ANZAC).

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backtozero

Premiership Player
Jul 26, 2020
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I'd give up our reserves playing in the bars in a heartbeat to have our club playing to the rules and regulations of the big league with no caps on how we develop and play our talent.

There are some battles you need to pick, and others you need to let go for tangible benefit.
Thats going to be an unpopular opinion but I tend to agree.
 

RossFC

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May 23, 2012
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We are fighting for more Prison Bars, not less. We currently have no agreement to wear them at AFL level. I don't want us throwing it all away because the SANFL allows a few sidesteps on the mark, or a 3rd man up in the ruck. Highly damaging to leave us in a vulnerable state for ZERO presence of the Prison Bars at any level.
 

GremioPower

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We are fighting for more Prison Bars, not less. We currently have no agreement to wear them at AFL level. I don't want us throwing it all away because the SANFL allows a few sidesteps on the mark, or a 3rd man up in the ruck. Highly damaging to leave us in a vulnerable state for ZERO presence of the Prison Bars at any level.
The different rules in playing are absolutely irrelevant. If our players cannot adjust to them, they aren’t good enough.

The issue is absolutely everything else.
 

backtozero

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Jul 26, 2020
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We are fighting for more Prison Bars, not less. We currently have no agreement to wear them at AFL level. I don't want us throwing it all away because the SANFL allows a few sidesteps on the mark, or a 3rd man up in the ruck. Highly damaging to leave us in a vulnerable state for ZERO presence of the Prison Bars at any level.
Eventually the reserves competition is going to go ahead and who knows if going to it is a decision we make or it gets made for us.
We need to keep fighting to wear the bars at AFL level no doubt, but the jumper will probably not have any bearing on what league our reserves play in. The club isn't going to dig its heels in here if it means everybody else in the league is on a level playing field and we get left behind in some irrelevant local competition.
What is best for our success is priority no.1.
 

Janus

Guardian of the Duat
Sep 9, 2007
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“Teddy told me that in Greek, nostalgia literally means “the pain from an old wound”. It’s a twinge in your heart far more powerful than memory alone. The prison bars aren’t just a jumper...they are a time machine. They represent a place where we ache to go again. Where Port Adelaide exists to win premierships.” - Don Draper
 

RossFC

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May 23, 2012
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Eventually the reserves competition is going to go ahead and who knows if going to it is a decision we make or it gets made for us.
We need to keep fighting to wear the bars at AFL level no doubt, but the jumper will probably not have any bearing on what league our reserves play in. The club isn't going to dig its heels in here if it means everybody else in the league is on a level playing field and we get left behind in some irrelevant local competition.
What is best for our success is priority no.1.
The VFL has a bunch of teams with similar colours and designs. They've got 2 lions and tigers. We should absolutely have the Prison Bars and Alberton Oval home games in an AFL reserves comp, as well as be fighting to wear them at AFL level.
 

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