Society/Culture Liam Neeson: Should we be condemned for thinking the wrong thoughts?

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The brothers haven't been charged, they are being questioned at the moment. Smollett is currently standing by his story. The story isn't adding up, but you're still jumping the gun.
Police now believe that Smollett paid the two brothers to assault him in what was an orchestrated attack. He has hired a prominent defense attorney now.

Strange world.
 

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What an absolute piece of shit this Smollett guy is. I look forward to the condemnations from Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, and the other Dems who used the incident to score cheap points initially!
 

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Someone should be keeping a list of news/social media blow-ups that turn out to be bullshit or severely overblown each month. We got Covington school kids covering January, and now Smollett in Feb, with maybe Liam Neeson fitting that category too.
 

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Someone should be keeping a list of news/social media blow-ups that turn out to be bullshit or severely overblown each month. We got Covington school kids covering January, and now Smollett in Feb, with maybe Liam Neeson fitting that category too.
Kavanaugh being accused of being a gang rapist by Julie Swetnick. All of them have an idpol angle where the "villain" is a white male.
 

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Has anyone confronted the lie in Seeds' thread title? Walking around with a weapon isn't a thought, it's an action.
 

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Should Liam Neesons career be ruined just cos he thought and did not act on something whilst in a state of extreme emotional distress? This sounds very scary to me and very 1984ish. Is this the way the left really wants to go?

We are all born racists. Our innate (the ones we come pre programmed with) intuitional algorithms are designed to discriminate against foriegners as a default position for good evolutionary reason (at least it was good in the time of our ancestors). We learn that acting racist is not in our or others best interests in the modern world through reason. We can eventually also intuitively reject racism as a default response by learning to reject it. This can be done through either the weight of experience in a society where there is no benefit to being racist or it can be learned through deliberate mental training.

After an extremely upsetting event our intuitions take control of our thoughts. Reason is still in the background but will only intervene if things get serious. Clearly in the case of Neeson his intuitions had taken over his thought process. This is completely understandable given the circumstances. And given he grew up in pre 1990s Ireland it would of been very difficult to intuitively learn to reject racism as a default emotional response. Its his innate racist intuitions that therefore would be in full control of his thoughts during times of emotional distress. However, this doesnt mean he would of acted on them. To commit violence is a serious action. For most people (not all but most) reason would kick in when we come to the point of facing the decision of whether to act on our intuitions. But we never get to this point in the Neeson story. He never faced that decision and never acted on it. We dont know what he would of done had he faced the decision but surely it seems extremely likely he would of backed down. This is because this is what most people do and as far as we know it was a one off thought experience for Neeson and he clearly admits it was wrong when rationally explaining the story.

So why are we condemning him? Surely given the circumstances and the fact no action took place nor was likely to take place that this should be a non story let alone one worthy of punishment. We need to face up to the fact we are born intuitively racist as its the only way we can learn to combat racism. To punish those for doing nothing more than briefly losing rational control of their thought processes during any time let alone highly emotional times is very scary cos it happens to all of us on a regular basis. We are all guilty of it.

Its always action that should be condemned and not thoughts. Do you really think Neeson should be punished for his thoughts? Is this the world you want to live in?
Written by a pretend sickologist.
 

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I cannot believe that he came out and said this in an interview. I understand it was a long time ago and he never acted upon his impulses, but it seems like a strange thing to bring up. It was only going to have one outcome.

I guess he figured if his career survived Love Actually, he can get away with anything.
 

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I cannot believe that he came out and said this in an interview. I understand it was a long time ago and he never acted upon his impulses, but it seems like a strange thing to bring up. It was only going to have one outcome.

I guess he figured if his career survived Love Actually, he can get away with anything.
Comedian David Mitchell wrote a column asking pretty much the same thing. It's not like he didn't have a dozen revenge-based movies in the past decade that could have prompted this story.
 

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Comedian David Mitchell wrote a column asking pretty much the same thing. It's not like he didn't have a dozen revenge-based movies in the past decade that could have prompted this story.
Thanks for the heads up. Big fan of David Mitchell. Just read his article and it's spot on.
 

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Neeson grew up in northern ireland. he understands racism better than any SJW jumping on. hes obviously outgrown it but overestimates todays audiences maturity

If hed said catholics and protestants would the outrage be as big?
 

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Oh look the poster who has a world view based on outdated 1940s philosophy is back. Yay.
Oh, don't look. A poster who hangs by a thread of shallow, deterministic psychology without a skerrick of evidence to support it.
 

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Liam Neeson deserves some redemption/forgiveness for what appears to be some mental fragility. In hindsight he should have just told his shrink or close friend and not on National TV as previously mentioned.

Just love how the social justice warriors are trying to pile him to him, some throwing stones surely?
 

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Liam Neeson deserves some redemption/forgiveness for what appears to be some mental fragility. In hindsight he should have just told his shrink or close friend and not on National TV as previously mentioned.

Just love how the social justice warriors are trying to pile him to him, some throwing stones surely?
I just love how every time somebody has an opinion on something, they are labelled social justice warriors.
 

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Liam Neeson deserves some redemption/forgiveness for what appears to be some mental fragility. In hindsight he should have just told his shrink or close friend and not on National TV as previously mentioned.
It's an uncommonly honest glimpse into the human dark side. Everybody has one, but not everybody goes there.
 

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Should Liam Neesons career be ruined just cos he thought and did not act on something whilst in a state of extreme emotional distress? This sounds very scary to me and very 1984ish. Is this the way the left really wants to go?

We are all born racists. Our innate (the ones we come pre programmed with) intuitional algorithms are designed to discriminate against foriegners as a default position for good evolutionary reason (at least it was good in the time of our ancestors). We learn that acting racist is not in our or others best interests in the modern world through reason. We can eventually also intuitively reject racism as a default response by learning to reject it. This can be done through either the weight of experience in a society where there is no benefit to being racist or it can be learned through deliberate mental training.

After an extremely upsetting event our intuitions take control of our thoughts. Reason is still in the background but will only intervene if things get serious. Clearly in the case of Neeson his intuitions had taken over his thought process. This is completely understandable given the circumstances. And given he grew up in pre 1990s Ireland it would of been very difficult to intuitively learn to reject racism as a default emotional response. Its his innate racist intuitions that therefore would be in full control of his thoughts during times of emotional distress. However, this doesnt mean he would of acted on them. To commit violence is a serious action. For most people (not all but most) reason would kick in when we come to the point of facing the decision of whether to act on our intuitions. But we never get to this point in the Neeson story. He never faced that decision and never acted on it. We dont know what he would of done had he faced the decision but surely it seems extremely likely he would of backed down. This is because this is what most people do and as far as we know it was a one off thought experience for Neeson and he clearly admits it was wrong when rationally explaining the story.

So why are we condemning him? Surely given the circumstances and the fact no action took place nor was likely to take place that this should be a non story let alone one worthy of punishment. We need to face up to the fact we are born intuitively racist as its the only way we can learn to combat racism. To punish those for doing nothing more than briefly losing rational control of their thought processes during any time let alone highly emotional times is very scary cos it happens to all of us on a regular basis. We are all guilty of it.

Its always action that should be condemned and not thoughts. Do you really think Neeson should be punished for his thoughts? Is this the world you want to live in?
It wasn't right but you can't blame Lam for thinking what he thought. His community had been subjected to black/African crime over a long period of time. We aren't just talking shoplifting here; we're talking murder, rape, armed robbery, etc. They didn't even have that big a population of Africans at that time.

Oddly, this is very similar to the scenario we are facing in Melbourne where the African gangs run amok and are continually excused by the lunatics out there. The Victorian state government continues to ignore the issue so the issue so it grows to the point where there is no return. Local VicPol districts have even gone to the extent of withholding and hiding stats in order to make the state government and Police hierarchy look good.
 

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It wasn't right but you can't blame Lam for thinking what he thought. His community had been subjected to black/African crime over a long period of time. We aren't just talking shoplifting here; we're talking murder, rape, armed robbery, etc. They didn't even have that big a population of Africans at that time.

Oddly, this is very similar to the scenario we are facing in Melbourne where the African gangs run amok and are continually excused by the lunatics out there. The Victorian state government continues to ignore the issue so the issue so it grows to the point where there is no return. Local VicPol districts have even gone to the extent of withholding and hiding stats in order to make the state government and Police hierarchy look good.

Can you please link some statistics to the horrific crime rate of brown people during the troubles of NORTHERN IRELAND during the 60's, 70's and 80's please?
That would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Like the Jussie Smollett case, Neeson is being pilloried for a hate crime that never happened.
it's worse than that.

Smollett overtly planned for a false report to be made to Police with the intent of inciting hatred towards a group of people. His was the exact type of thing thing that would happen in the US in the 1940s.

Neeson was projecting his frustrations with the actions of a certain demographic of society who were targeting white people as their victims. What is worse is the Liberal media promoted these lies because they no longer have a balanced view.
 

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