Lies, damn lies, and statistics

schmuttt

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He has a point though. Generally it's spearheaded by posters like Reek and then the group think mentality kicks into gear and all the sheep follow suit. I remember questioning Goodwin's coaching ability in his first year and being howled down by the usual suspects.
who tf is Reek
 

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Marc_Remillard

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TopReek doesn't quite have the same ring to it.

Anyway I'm done posting about the Hogan thing, if people want to keep trying to score points over something they can't change go ahead.
No, just Reek

But this isn't about the Hogan thing, it's about a group of posters here who attack other posters who have a different opinion, constantly
 

Johnny Karate

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No, just Reek

But this isn't about the Hogan thing, it's about a group of posters here who attack other posters who have a different opinion, constantly
I guess the problem with online forums is that there is a disconnect that occurs when reading someone’s post and appreciating that they are a human being. It’s a bit like road rage - there’s a tendency to see every other car as either an impediment or a dangerous a-hole rather than another person with loved ones who might’ve made a mistake or didn’t see you or is in a panic etc.

Anonymity online can be a blessing and a curse. I find it easier to articulate and share my views through writing rather than talking. It’s also kind of cool to explore and construct an alternative identity. However, having an avatar can cause the ego to go a bit overboard and pour a bucket of s**t on people I disagree with. It’s also easy to get sucked into groupthink and possible trolling/bullying with the social currency of likes on offer.

Short of holding hands and singing kumbaya - I’m going to try and be better at engaging in respectful discussion.

Apologies for the sermon.
 

schmuttt

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No, just Reek

But this isn't about the Hogan thing, it's about a group of posters here who attack other posters who have a different opinion, constantly
Disagreeing with people isn't an attack. Any personal abuse should be sent straight to the moderation team.
 

Gysberts2Bate

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I guess the problem with online forums is that there is a disconnect that occurs when reading someone’s post and appreciating that they are a human being. It’s a bit like road rage - there’s a tendency to see every other car as either an impediment or a dangerous a-hole rather than another person with loved ones who might’ve made a mistake or didn’t see you or is in a panic etc.

Anonymity online can be a blessing and a curse. I find it easier to articulate and share my views through writing rather than talking. It’s also kind of cool to explore and construct an alternative identity. However, having an avatar can cause the ego to go a bit overboard and pour a bucket of s**t on people I disagree with. It’s also easy to get sucked into groupthink and possible trolling/bullying with the social currency of likes on offer.

Short of holding hands and singing kumbaya - I’m going to try and be better at engaging in respectful discussion.

Apologies for the sermon.
Can confirm that I’m not a human, feel free to verbally abuse me without regret
 

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Topkent

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What a shock Tmac kicked most of his goals in the 17 games Hogan played... Truly amazing statistical analysis.

I mean TheCount already proved Hogan kicked like 90% of his goals from free kicks or uncontested marks but sure he's the saviour and the club should fold.

Jealous of the profound impact he had on Freo this year with his 12 goals. Difference between 17th and 1st for us IMO
 

DeesFanTheMan

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I guess the problem with online forums is that there is a disconnect that occurs when reading someone’s post and appreciating that they are a human being. It’s a bit like road rage - there’s a tendency to see every other car as either an impediment or a dangerous a-hole rather than another person with loved ones who might’ve made a mistake or didn’t see you or is in a panic etc.

Anonymity online can be a blessing and a curse. I find it easier to articulate and share my views through writing rather than talking. It’s also kind of cool to explore and construct an alternative identity. However, having an avatar can cause the ego to go a bit overboard and pour a bucket of s**t on people I disagree with. It’s also easy to get sucked into groupthink and possible trolling/bullying with the social currency of likes on offer.

Short of holding hands and singing kumbaya - I’m going to try and be better at engaging in respectful discussion.

Apologies for the sermon.
Fight me Johnny Karate you coward.
 

TheCount

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What a shock Tmac kicked most of his goals in the 17 games Hogan played... Truly amazing statistical analysis.

I mean TheCount already proved Hogan kicked like 90% of his goals from free kicks or uncontested marks but sure he's the saviour and the club should fold.

Jealous of the profound impact he had on Freo this year with his 12 goals. Difference between 17th and 1st for us IMO
In fairness, the talk is more about missing Hogan's work up the ground, and him playing the foil than his actual impact on the scoreboard.

But even then, solely linking TMac and Weid's ordinary seasons to the fact Hogan wasn't there is far too simplistic, and provides an easy out for not only the players themselves, but the coaches, and in particular the fitness staff. Weid is still a long way from having the tank required to play out a game, while TMac was clearly lacking conditioning after surgery in Feb, so it probably shouldn't have been a surprise that a player that has built his game around his running power struggled for form when he was lacking in that department.
 

Topkent

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In fairness, the talk is more about missing Hogan's work up the ground, and him playing the foil than his actual impact on the scoreboard.

But even then, solely linking TMac and Weid's ordinary seasons to the fact Hogan wasn't there is far too simplistic, and provides an easy out for not only the players themselves, but the coaches, and in particular the fitness staff. Weid is still a long way from having the tank required to play out a game, while TMac was clearly lacking conditioning after surgery in Feb, so it probably shouldn't have been a surprise that a player that has built his game around his running power struggled for form when he was lacking in that department.
He played 12 games for Freo kicked 13 goals and they went 6-6 include kicking less than 75 in 7 of the games he played. It's an embarassingly simplistic angle to judge our season on.
 

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