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RobbieGray17

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So been thinking, what changes do you think will happen after Covid-19

Just a few things I think will be on the cards
  • More comprehensive live data collection of viruses will be shared internationally to prevent another outbreak. Measures will be put in place to lock locations down rapidly.
  • Airport/cruise ship testing prior to boarding, isolation areas for infected people, and testing prior to arriving in another country
  • Resource availability and stockpiling for future pandemics
  • Massive increases in medical science, and research
  • Implement a crisis response unit that specifically handles situations like this one swiftly and free from politics. This unit would be covered by the best experts in each field.
  • We will inevitably at some stage, (I wouldn't expect in the next 2-3 years) a crisis fund whether this be developed from an increase in the GST or a levy of some sort.
  • I expect a strong response in the next two years to seriously tackle both Cardiovascular disease, obesity, and diabetes. WE have seen the cost is too high NOT to act.
  • More and more businesses will allow workers to work from home, saving on costs to the company and much face to face will be done online
  • Supermarkets will push hard for automation where customers walk in pick up goods and walk out
  • The handshake will die
  • Cash will die
  • More and more people will wear masks outside of Melbourne
  • I expect for quite some time that a lot of people will start prepping creating the same shortages on shelves atm.
  • I expect and hope that more Australians support Australian jobs and Australian products keeping money in the country
  • Robotic technologies to disinfect will be massive in the next 5 years.
  • automation and sensors on doors, toilets, streets and basically anything that can be touched will be a big thing in the next 5 years including in the home.
  • Home builders will start designing homes with larger pantries.
Let me know what you think
 

Thegibbsgamble

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Good thread.

Right Now, those most responsible for the position were in, are seen as our saviors. But these people were nowhere to be seen when reports came out of China in January about how serious this was. Our health system completely useless. Over ten years ago doctors were told of a diabetes epidemic. Over 30 years they were warned about heart disease.

All thier science clearly shows that most of thier drugs combined with out sh*t food culture are responsible for hypertension.

Its against the law for these goons to teach nutrition.

Our sh*t food culture should change now.
 

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Social distancing will become the norm. Handshakes high fives etc slow to recover.

Police/army will have increased powers to detain/stop crowds all in the name of "Public Safety." Now this could be for a new flu risk, terrorism, natural disaster etc but we are getting a test run now. Also see tough new censorship rules, posting content. (not that we need it as MSM simply follows. This is potentially a disaster.

Stricter border checks. Especially if going over seas. You will need to give very specific details where you are going who with etc. Major police crackdowns. Especially on any protests.

Economically a long road back. Something like UBI will feature heavily in the discussion. And while no self respecting government will ever admit it is what they are doing there will be a need to cater for millions of unemployed who won't get their jobs back.

Stuff like Amazon/home delivery will get a major foothold and may replace traditional shops etc.

Property may fall. I see less risk with major investments etc. The debt will need to be flushed out and recovery could take some time. Small businesses will make a comeback but be small time operations.

AFL/entertainment will be fine. 18 clubs will resume and AFL will play 18 games at the earliest possible time. GF will be in December.

Travel will become more expensive with airlines going under. Local tourism could make a come back as cheap flights will be a thing of the past.
 

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Also alcohol consumption has gone through the roof. (And not talking my own which is even par).

But people chatting over a take out, casual work conversations etc some are getting right into the whisky @10 am. Ain't goona be easy to shake it off.

Also when it comes time to return to work tempers are gonna fray.
 

RobbieGray17

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Also alcohol consumption has gone through the roof. (And not talking my own which is even par).

But people chatting over a take out, casual work conversations etc some are getting right into the whisky @10 am. Ain't goona be easy to shake it off.

Also when it comes time to return to work tempers are gonna fray.
Some good points. I've already experienced high tensions at work recently.
With property, anyone who has a mortgage on their own home and a job isn't likely to sell up any time soon.
Retail was dying a slow death already, this is going to accelerate it.
One concern is over privacy as they may pass laws allowing them to track people through mobile devices in times of need
 

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Agree with work from home, disagree on handshakes. Think they'll come back fairly soon as they're too ingrained as a social interaction.

  • Cruise ships will be seen as floating prisons of filth for many years to come - expect numerous cruise companies will go bust.
  • Preppers becomes more of a thing. Anti-vaxxers become less of a thing
  • Consumer spending on non-essentials will be very slow to recover. If people are forced to live a fairly minimalist lifestyle over the next few months, don't expect them to suddenly balloon their discretionary spending while the economy is weak.
  • If this drags on for months, I expect most incumbent governments to lose power. Even if this is the 100% correct approach to containing the virus, people's quality of life is being significantly degraded, and they'll look to somebody to blame. Governments are an easy scapegoat.
 

RobbieGray17

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Agree with work from home, disagree on handshakes. Think they'll come back fairly soon as they're too ingrained as a social interaction.

  • Cruise ships will be seen as floating prisons of filth for many years to come - expect numerous cruise companies will go bust.
  • Preppers becomes more of a thing. Anti-vaxxers become less of a thing
  • Consumer spending on non-essentials will be very slow to recover. If people are forced to live a fairly minimalist lifestyle over the next few months, don't expect them to suddenly balloon their discretionary spending while the economy is weak.
  • If this drags on for months, I expect most incumbent governments to lose power. Even if this is the 100% correct approach to containing the virus, people's quality of life is being significantly degraded, and they'll look to somebody to blame. Governments are an easy scapegoat.
Last point:
Australia : Scomo could be safe here. If our results are very good in contrast with the rest of the world people will be very hesitant to vote in another untested government.
USA : YES/NO Democratic race is a joke right now
Italy : YES
NZ : Probably not
CANADA: Too far away
Spain: YES
 

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Some of my predictions for life after Covid-19:

  • We'll see governments bake into legislation a lot of "data sharing" provisions for "public health and safety" reasons - at the cost of privacy
  • Small and mid-tier organisations that don't already have WFH practices to fully embed them into BAU, most large organisations should already practice this before Covid-19. It's fast tracked them because this is a direct business and use case for companies to show management that WFH is feasible for their business.
  • Significant increase in calls into helplines like Lifeline etc because of anxiety and depression as a result of self-isolation over these months
  • Better understanding of exponential curves throughout every single age demographic
 

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One concern is over privacy as they may pass laws allowing them to track people through mobile devices in times of need
They already do, through the metadata laws they pushed through to force ISPs and telcos to retain at least two years worth of (among lots of other things) your location data. What they are floating right now is a database to combine all the different sources of location data into one big indexed one. I ranted on about it here:
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...demic-declared.1234814/page-497#post-64824571
 

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  • More people will switch to plant based diets.
  • Oil demand slow to recover, might not recover fully if electric vehicles make ground, or when prices spike again.
  • Handshake replaced by fist bump.
  • Distrust of China and Chinese products, particularly foods, to persist for a few years at least.
  • Increase in telecommutes, as work from home portals remain useful beyond initial implementation.
  • NBN to be fully rolled out, fibre to the premises.
  • Anti-vaxx movement ruined.
  • The effect on the economy will convince governments that it's in our financial as well as health interest to invest more in vaccine and antibiotic development.
  • More people will want off-grid solar, rainwater tanks, and other sustainability modules.
  • More bidet installations.
 

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If working from home becomes much more common this could have quite an impact on infrastructure and town planning. Less and different transport needs, both public and private, bigger homes with multiple home-offices, the whole concept of a cbd changed/much reduced.
 

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Also alcohol consumption has gone through the roof. (And not talking my own which is even par).
Dan Murphy's reported an 80% increase over March 2019.
I suspect some of that is stocking up to ride out the virus but my consumption has increased the past couple of weeks and I know a few people in the same boat.

The dozen bottles of pinot I order online arrived a short time ago which didn't help matters.
 

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Dan Murphy's reported an 80% increase over March 2019.
I suspect some of that is stocking up to ride out the virus but my consumption has increased the past couple of weeks and I know a few people in the same boat.

The dozen bottles of pinot I order online arrived a short time ago which didn't help matters.
Boredom + No Work/No discipline of needing to stick to a routine + Already stressful situation = Bottoms Up.
 

RobbieGray17

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If working from home becomes much more common this could have quite an impact on infrastructure and town planning. Less and different transport needs, both public and private, bigger homes with multiple home-offices, the whole concept of a cbd changed/much reduced.
Will also lead to more regional cities as people will want to live in more coveted or regional locations. I would imagine people would be keen to move to Port Macquarie. This could set us up like France where they have a lot of small cities.
 

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Would it be a good thing if WHO became organised in a militarised sense (specialised helicopter/aircraft carriers for rapid MEDEVAC, fleets of hospital ships, staff drawn from across the globe) that could react quickly to outbreaks at any point on earth?

I know that global politics being what it is some nations (or armed groups controlling territory within that nation) may not let such a force deploy but is it worth considering anyway?
 

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Would it be a good thing if WHO became organised in a militarised sense (specialised helicopter/aircraft carriers for rapid MEDEVAC, fleets of hospital ships, staff drawn from across the globe) that could react quickly to outbreaks at any point on earth?

I know that global politics being what it is some nations (or armed groups controlling territory within that nation) may not let such a force deploy but is it worth considering anyway?
The same WHO who tweeted in mid January that they were confident Covid 19 was not transferable with human to human contact. The same WHO who's head was part of a cover up of Ebola. No thanks.

Amazed how chill days can be. Get up at 9 read the internet. Get out of bed do some exercise. Go for a walk. Read. Surf BF. And its nearly 4 and time for a drink. Amazing how adaptive we become. Won't be easy going back to work. On a serious note a lot of people may work out how unhappy or unnecessarily rule driven their jobs are and start afresh (those that have them at least). With less money around and less opportunity to buy investments/travel/become mega rich small time ops will make a comeback.

Also consider what this does for high density living. People may move out of cities if jobs are spread and live more according to geography.
 

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Cash to go. Cashless society now with the excuse it is unhygienic. Any descent results in a fine where your cash/assets are stripped.
 

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Dan Murphy's reported an 80% increase over March 2019.
I suspect some of that is stocking up to ride out the virus but my consumption has increased the past couple of weeks and I know a few people in the same boat.

The dozen bottles of pinot I order online arrived a short time ago which didn't help matters.
My consumption has increased too
 

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