Player Watch Lin Jong

mattys123 · Jul 7, 2016

Haha Bucks isn't hiding anything;

sr36 · Jul 7, 2016

In recent years, everyone who has cost us anything at the trade table has looked the goods, jury is still out on aish, but I'm a believer. Most of these guys - varcoe, crisp, howe, and greenwood came with great reservations from this board. I'm happy to trust the recruiters above board sentiment.

mike123 · Jul 7, 2016

Jury is still out on Greenwood as well.

NT.Thunder · Jul 7, 2016

mike123 said:
Jury is still out on Greenwood as well.

I think Greenwood has been pretty good in bring physical presence but I agree, I'd like to see more improvement on impacting the game. He really needs to finish.

sirlothie · Jul 7, 2016

HenrikLundqvist said:
Now I've read it all. Abandon thread.

He is a good ruckman. Shit at everything else but a good ruckman. They are not a dime a dozen like Jong so their price is inflated and Witts is a long way from his peak. I'm telling you a straight swap Jong for Witts would not happen in a month of Sundays.

Mavs13 · Jul 7, 2016

They need Witts more then we need Jong.
So they need to give more to get him then just a straight swap.

mattys123 · Jul 7, 2016

mike123 said:
Jury is still out on Greenwood as well.

Greenwood played his best football for North Melbourne in finals.

Problem is he's come to a side that doesn't play in finals anymore.

Good_Old · Jul 7, 2016

Hey Bulldogs supporters, Tom Boyd.

CLUBMEDhurst · Jul 7, 2016

TW Sherrin said:
you'd have to remove daisy's .... to get the butter in.

Ooooh. Like it :thumbsu:

TradeDraft · Jul 7, 2016

mattys123 said:
Haha Bucks isn't hiding anything;

Shows Bucks Want Him

Zephiisdaman · Jul 7, 2016

TW Sherrin said:
enjoy the freedom here to discuss our players. shame there are so many sooks on your board when it goes the other way.

so you haven't signed Jong and Stevens. Sounds like cap pressures is just starting to kick in. can you imagine what it will be like in 3 years when your young mids all want more money? You'd better win a flag in the next 2 years.

No doubt, although i doubt Stevens and Jong are going to break the cap. You are correct, some creative list managment will have to occur when String, Bont, Macrae, Libba are due again. You hope like Geelong did that the young guns can see the success ahead....Possibly. GWS will have same issue.
I don't like to troll other boards, I just felt that perhaps Jong was being under-rated by some here. You are correct that a lot on our board sook up when it comes to trading.
The one that I would trade if the right deal came along, and it would have to be a great deal, would be Jack Macrae. Super player but we have a lot of his type and he probably holds the most value for other clubs to look at. Not because I want to get rid of him, it is purely to try to improve our list with a player we are more in need of.

TradeDraft · Jul 7, 2016

NT.Thunder said:
I think Greenwood has been pretty good in bring physical presence but I agree, I'd like to see more improvement on impacting the game. He really needs to finish.

Greenwood has been very important shutting players out of Games that has helped us Win games.

I agree though he don't get a ton out of him Offensively

Get Smart 86 · Jul 7, 2016

If we can get Jong cheaply, we welcome the pace!
Still young. Think he does have a place in our best 25 players for sure!
I'd like Jong in black and white.

However, realistically our need is elsewhere.
Look to getting Stewart, Tomlinson or maybe Corr from GWS should be our aim.
We need some tall forwards and defenders.
Would love Marchbank too, but we just don't have the picks to satisfy GWS for him.

Remember, we need to have enough value in our picks for both young Brown and Daicos.

THATSGOLD · Jul 7, 2016

Get Smart 86 said:
If we can get Jong cheaply, we welcome the pace!
Still young. Think he does have a place in our best 25 players for sure!
I'd like Jong in black and white.

However, realistically our need is elsewhere.
Look to getting Stewart, Tomlinson or maybe Corr from GWS should be our aim.
We need some tall forwards and defenders.
Would love Marchbank too, but we just don't have the picks to satisfy GWS for him.

Remember, we need to have enough value in our picks for both young Brown and Daicos.

Who goes out of the best 22?

Dogs_Playing_Poker · Jul 7, 2016

TradeDraft said:
Shows Bucks Want Him

Interesting, Bucks seems confident that he will be coaching next season!

OniAu · Jul 7, 2016

NT.Thunder said:
I think that's a bit harsh. He has shown improvement; however has had little opportunity this year only playing 2 games in an unsettled line up. He's only 23 so we need to remember that this isn't uncommon for big men. We've made a conscious effort to go with Grundy which is fine and what we needed to do but I still think Witts if given opportunity will make it at AFL level, just not at Collingwood and certainly if we can develop Cox in that second ruck role.

Harsh yeah , but I think we have gone with Grundy as he doesn't seem to panic in congested situations. Witts doesn't fill me with confidence with ball in hand , Grundy is a great link player and great in traffic for a ruck. If Witts can dominate hit outs , that's a different story, but he hasn't shown he can impact in that area.

TradeDraft · Jul 7, 2016

Dogs_Playing_Poker said:
Interesting, Bucks seems confident that he will be coaching next season!

I guess Ed has Told him he will. Then Hopefully Ed does not Re-Sign Him to another New Deal

TW Sherrin · Jul 7, 2016

Zephiisdaman said:
I guess we have differing views.
A bloke who is ranked about 24-28 in a contending club and has shown plenty
v
A bloke ranked about 24-28 in a battling club that has shown very little.

Talk about over-rating your own players and list.

You just outed yourself as a dill.

TW Sherrin · Jul 7, 2016

Zephiisdaman said:
No doubt, although i doubt Stevens and Jong are going to break the cap. You are correct, some creative list managment will have to occur when String, Bont, Macrae, Libba are due again. You hope like Geelong did that the young guns can see the success ahead....Possibly. GWS will have same issue.
I don't like to troll other boards, I just felt that perhaps Jong was being under-rated by some here. You are correct that a lot on our board sook up when it comes to trading.
The one that I would trade if the right deal came along, and it would have to be a great deal, would be Jack Macrae. Super player but we have a lot of his type and he probably holds the most value for other clubs to look at. Not because I want to get rid of him, it is purely to try to improve our list with a player we are more in need of.

I'm in the minority. I like Jong.

TradeDraft · Jul 7, 2016

TW Sherrin said:
I'm in the minority. I like Jong.

Most Like Jong but he does not Feel a Need to make us better

THATSGOLD · Jul 7, 2016

TradeDraft said:
Most Like Jong but he does not Feel a Need to make us better

Agree with that. Nothing wrong with grabbing him it makes me happy we are getting a new player and all that but as so becoming a much better side I don't feel like he is going to be the difference.

sirlothie · Jul 7, 2016

Zephiisdaman said:
No doubt, although i doubt Stevens and Jong are going to break the cap. You are correct, some creative list managment will have to occur when String, Bont, Macrae, Libba are due again. You hope like Geelong did that the young guns can see the success ahead....Possibly. GWS will have same issue.
I don't like to troll other boards, I just felt that perhaps Jong was being under-rated by some here. You are correct that a lot on our board sook up when it comes to trading.
The one that I would trade if the right deal came along, and it would have to be a great deal, would be Jack Macrae. Super player but we have a lot of his type and he probably holds the most value for other clubs to look at. Not because I want to get rid of him, it is purely to try to improve our list with a player we are more in need of.

You are very arrogant about your list that has done 3/5ths of **** all really.

Zephiisdaman · Jul 7, 2016

sirlothie said:
You are very arrogant about your list that has done 3/5ths of **** all really.

Not really. i think we have a list that is pretty good, that is envied bu a lot of clubs for the young talent we have amassed. If that is arrogant then i am guilty, doesn't mean we will win a flag. However we are in a good position to have a red hot go at it in the coming years. I think most football followers would agree with that. When Bont and String come out of the next contract i have no doubt there will be massive offers, so we have to be smart how we list manage. We have never really been in that position before, so it is a new concept.
I did say Possible success in my post, I never once said we were guaranteed success.
But I stand by my statement that we have a good young list of players, there are gaps and that is where trading and smart drafting comes into it.
Dalrymple seems to be an excellent judge of young footballers so we will see.

TW Sherrin · Jul 7, 2016

TradeDraft said:
Most Like Jong but he does not Feel a Need to make us better

I disagree and wonder if many people actually watch players. I sometimes struggle with peoples ideas about players.

bunter · Jul 7, 2016

don't really mind about Jong,
as long as we don't trade Witts after putting all this development time into him, his best is still a few years ahead in my humble opinion.

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