Preview Lions 2019 Discussion

[Chobo]

Zac Baileys instagram has a video of McStay having a photo shoot at the club, I think might be about to announce his re-signing.

 

[dlanod]

I can't see Stef playing 3 more years, that would make him 37, 1 long term injury and it's over, form can also drop off quickly once you reach your early 30s let alone mid 30s.

He's only 32...???

32 + 3 = 37? Ouch, that hurts.

 

[M Malice]

He's only 32...???

32 + 3 = 37? Ouch, that hurts.

I only went to school to eat my lunch.

 

[pulpdriver]

Zac Baileys instagram has a video of McStay having a photo shoot at the club, I think might be about to announce his re-signing.

Yeah, looks like it. Getting some stills/footage for it.

 

[bungalow_bill]

Zac Baileys instagram has a video of McStay having a photo shoot at the club, I think might be about to announce his re-signing.

Perhaps he is doing some McModelling on the side

Seriously though would be great news

 

[jackess]

Zac Baileys instagram has a video of McStay having a photo shoot at the club, I think might be about to announce his re-signing.

Good pickup

 

[POBT]

I just don't see Archie as the long term replacement for Stef or as a capable fill in for the big O if he gets injured, 6 years on the list and very underwhelming IMO.

Based on what though? He’s spent bugger all time playing the role we would want him for. If it is based on his NEAFL form, I’m pretty sceptical of that as a valid basis for any opinion about a player’s senior prospects.

I just don’t know how he could be disregarded so easily (just as I don’t see how we could be totally reliant on him coming good). I wouldn’t want my last dollar on him being our premiership ruckman but it isn’t an outlandish proposition.

If he’d played 15 games as a starting ruck and looked average, I could see the logic but I just don’t see the evidence base to be making calls either way.

Apologies for a couple of footy truisms but:

1. He’s a big bloke and big blokes take time.

2. He was new to the sport and those blokes take time.

As I said, he’s no lock for a first ruck role but he’s certainly not the worst option I’ve ever seen.

 

[M Malice]

Based on what though? He’s spent bugger all time playing the role we would want him for. If it is based on his NEAFL form, I’m pretty sceptical of that as a valid basis for any opinion about a player’s senior prospects.

I just don’t know how he could be disregarded so easily (just as I don’t see how we could be totally reliant on him coming good). I wouldn’t want my last dollar on him being our premiership ruckman but it isn’t an outlandish proposition.

If he’d played 15 games as a starting ruck and looked average, I could see the logic but I just don’t see the evidence base to be making calls either way.

Apologies for a couple of footy truisms but:

1. He’s a big bloke and big blokes take time.

2. He was new to the sport and those blokes take time.

As I said, he’s no lock for a first ruck role but he’s certainly not the worst option I’ve ever seen.

Based on my gut (I like the eye test) upon viewing his games over the last few years particularly in the NEAFL, a few live and others on youtube. If we are playing him bugger all in the role we want him for I'd beg the obvious questions ie. why not we've had 6 years? Have we dropped the ball re Archie's development?

On taking time- It's been 6 years and still I just don't see it.

 

[jackess]

Archie was looking pretty good 2 years ago but seems to have plateaued at a standard just below the AFL.

 

[Gibbo_88]

Interesting to think that Martin only really got going in his 7th year and had played significantly more games than Archie.

 

[RU_]

Anyone else cheering Hawthorn on tomorrow night? Would be incredible for the ladder if they get up and we do too.

 

[POBT]

Interesting to think that Martin only really got going in his 7th year and had played significantly more games than Archie.

Another tall who was late to the game and not played as a first ruck for a long time.

 

[Viceregal]

Whether Archie makes it or not at least we didn't pay Billy Longer / Matthew Leuenberger prices for him in the draft...

 

[bungalow_bill]

Whether Archie makes it or not at least we didn't pay Billy Longer / Matthew Leuenberger prices for him in the draft...

Or Cameron Wood

 

[captainrich]

Or Cameron Wood

Or llane spaanderman...

 

[dlanod]

Matthew Leuenberger

One of these things is not like the others...

 

[Mighty Lions]

Perhaps he is doing some McModelling on the side

Seriously though would be great news

Done deal last week. Formal announcement coming up soon

 

[Viceregal]

One of these things is not like the others...

Didn't we get him pick three or something? Or do you mean because he could actually ruck and gave some return on investment?

 

[CarterS]

One of the hosts on SEN apparently said either Hipwood or Blakey will be the player of the next decade

 

[dlanod]

Didn't we get him pick three or something? Or do you mean because he could actually ruck and gave some return on investment?

Pick 4, but yes the latter.

 

[BRAB]

Done deal last week. Formal announcement coming up soon

McSTAY

Now for the big question, are you still worried about us losing a key forward this off season or was dan the one you were worried about?

 

[Gadzorks]

For the past few years we have had the season in two parts being pre and post bye.

other teams also seem to be similarly effected - pies were 9-3 before the bye (I think) and last night looked like a team expecting to coast into finals and not being ‘up’ for the game against a lowly team (and that’s a good thing).

Fagan said last year that the tally restarts at the bye and the demarcation was used to show our improvement over the season. Simple but brilliant piece of in-the-players-heads coaching as using the same principle this year means the wins don’t count and players don’t get complacent.

 

[briztoon]

For the past few years we have had the season in two parts being pre and post bye.

other teams also seem to be similarly effected - pies were 9-3 before the bye (I think) and last night looked like a team expecting to coast into finals and not being ‘up’ for the game against a lowly team (and that’s a good thing).

Fagan said last year that the tally restarts at the bye and the demarcation was used to show our improvement over the season. Simple but brilliant piece of in-the-players-heads coaching as using the same principle this year means the wins don’t count and players don’t get complacent.

From the brief discussion I read, weren't the Pies missing 9 best 22 players last night?

 

[Gadzorks]

From the brief discussion I read, weren't the Pies missing 9 best 22 players last night?

Possibly - I didn’t know it was that many. I’ve flicked through their autopsy thread and there isn’t a lot of focus on missing players, though they do say their forward line is non existent and their key forwards are out.

Mostly getting the players aren’t firing and game plan has consistently been defensive not take the game on and it’s not working.

 

[BuntonRules]

Another tall who was late to the game and not played as a first ruck for a long time.

Add this to Martin's physique and aerobic capacity - he easily has 3 more years in him.IMO.