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Would gladly have Hodge in for another year but starting to sit out a few games, maybe sit next to Fages on the boundary so his presence is still there and he gets a bit more coaching experience.

I think his experience will be vital in a finals campaign this year and once the boys have had a taste they might not need to keen on him as much next year.
 
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Lincoln McCarthy is the most efficient Lion inside forward 50 while Mitch Robinson also makes the most of his chances. Leading goal kickers Charlie Cameron and Eric Hipwood are both kicking at below 50%.

BrisbaneGoalsBehindsOtherTotal shotsAccuracy %
Lincoln McCarthy17542665.4
Mitch Robinson12532060
Daniel McStay171233253.1
Charlie Cameron292285949.2
Hugh McCluggage168113545.7
Eric Hipwood2622105844.8
Cam Rayner141623243.8
Dayne Zorko121383336.4
Jarryd Lyons7762035



As frustrating as McStay is he's not our worst kick for goal although this doesn't include out of bounds on the full

 
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LACHIE Neale is the hardest-worked midfielder in the competition. That's not an opinion, it's fact.

The star Brisbane recruit has enjoyed a stellar first season at the Lions after crossing from Fremantle last year, helping his new team surge into the top four and himself become one of the Brownlow Medal favourites.

 

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Lincoln McCarthy is the most efficient Lion inside forward 50 while Mitch Robinson also makes the most of his chances. Leading goal kickers Charlie Cameron and Eric Hipwood are both kicking at below 50%.

BrisbaneGoalsBehindsOtherTotal shotsAccuracy %
Lincoln McCarthy17542665.4
Mitch Robinson12532060
Daniel McStay171233253.1
Charlie Cameron292285949.2
Hugh McCluggage168113545.7
Eric Hipwood2622105844.8
Cam Rayner141623243.8
Dayne Zorko121383336.4
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As frustrating as McStay is he's not our worst kick for goal although this doesn't include out of bounds on the full

I assumed that the "other" in the table was out of bounds on the full and shots that sprayed wide but stayed in or shots that didn't make the distance??
 

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Breaking it down to set shots and on the run shots would be more useful.
 
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Lincoln McCarthy is the most efficient Lion inside forward 50 while Mitch Robinson also makes the most of his chances. Leading goal kickers Charlie Cameron and Eric Hipwood are both kicking at below 50%.

BrisbaneGoalsBehindsOtherTotal shotsAccuracy %
Lincoln McCarthy17542665.4
Mitch Robinson12532060
Daniel McStay171233253.1
Charlie Cameron292285949.2
Hugh McCluggage168113545.7
Eric Hipwood2622105844.8
Cam Rayner141623243.8
Dayne Zorko121383336.4
Jarryd Lyons7762035



As frustrating as McStay is he's not our worst kick for goal although this doesn't include out of bounds on the full

Yeh but there would be a few shots in the points column that would of come from a position that was unmissable .
 
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With Qld losing the state of origin could the Lions be Qlds only hope for the ultimate victory or at least the only one left in the running.
We might need a bigger band wagon.
In the words of the Duke.
WAGONS Hoh Yah .
 

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Honestly could be the Friday night, two sides potentially battling for a top 4 position, the rest of the round doesn't look as spicy.

Friday or Saturday night prime-time and free to air is almost 100% you'd think.

In round 22, the Tigers play 1:10pm on the Sunday, with us at 2:10pm on Saturday.

I don't think the AFL will force a 5 day break when it can be avoided.

Though, the tigers won't have left the MCG for 2 months, so maybe they won't need all that much rest... 🤔

(And that said, we won't have left the Gabba for 4 weeks - not bad!)
 
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In round 22, the Tigers play 1:10pm on the Sunday, with us at 2:10pm on Saturday.

I don't think the AFL will force a 5 day break when it can be avoided.

Though, the tigers won't have left the MCG for 2 months, so maybe they won't need all that much rest... 🤔

(And that said, we won't have left the Gabba for 4 weeks - not bad!)

Yeah this makes sense. Essendon-Collingwood seems a shoe in for friday night assuming essendon is still in finals contention when they release the fixture in a couple of weeks.

We are a channel 7 game so it will be saturday night or sunday afternoon.
 

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LACHIE Neale is the hardest-worked midfielder in the competition. That's not an opinion, it's fact.

The star Brisbane recruit has enjoyed a stellar first season at the Lions after crossing from Fremantle last year, helping his new team surge into the top four and himself become one of the Brownlow Medal favourites.

I’m afraid it is opinion and manipulated data.
 

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Lincoln McCarthy is the most efficient Lion inside forward 50 while Mitch Robinson also makes the most of his chances. Leading goal kickers Charlie Cameron and Eric Hipwood are both kicking at below 50%.

BrisbaneGoalsBehindsOtherTotal shotsAccuracy %
Lincoln McCarthy17542665.4
Mitch Robinson12532060
Daniel McStay171233253.1
Charlie Cameron292285949.2
Hugh McCluggage168113545.7
Eric Hipwood2622105844.8
Cam Rayner141623243.8
Dayne Zorko121383336.4
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As frustrating as McStay is he's not our worst kick for goal although this doesn't include out of bounds on the full


Does 'other' refer to out on the full? If so 3 seems low for McStay. He would have kicked at the very least 6 goals from within the goal square this year. The ball constantly falls to him unmanned or on the run in the square. Even he can't miss those. With that in mind, he would actually be in the 30% range for set shots outside the square.
 
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Yeh but there would be a few shots in the points column that would of come from a position that was unmissable .

He's not the only one.

Charlie has a a few shockers as have Hipwood and Rayner.

I've said it before. McStay is unfairly maligned IMO.
 
I’m afraid it is opinion and manipulated data.

Not really. If you read the article its focus isn't on minutes per game it's on total time spent on the field. It even mentions his durability in there. Technically he is the hardest working midfielder this season, he's played more minutes than any other midfielder in the competition.

You couldnt really say I am the hardest worker at my job because I work 10 hours a day but I only work 3 days a week while others work 5 8 hour days.

It's a nice narrative that Twitter account has created to get some clicks but it's fairly disingenuous. He's just out his own lens on what he things hard working is defined by and has presented data in a slightly different way to support it.
 
For those that follow Squiggle, just noticed it's tipping us for a win against Geelong and it's looking 50/50 against the Hawks.. I still think there's a chance we could lose against the dogs or north at home but geez it would be really hard for opposition to turn up to the Gabba in finals knowing we have only lost 1 or 2 games there for the year.
 

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The Purple F..g is finally starting to see the light-

Ifthe Dogs and Tigers were able to win flags in 2016 and 2017 ...
thenthe Lions' case to do so in 2019, upon entry to round 17, actually has a whole lot more compelling reasons.
 

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Lincoln McCarthy is the most efficient Lion inside forward 50 while Mitch Robinson also makes the most of his chances. Leading goal kickers Charlie Cameron and Eric Hipwood are both kicking at below 50%.

BrisbaneGoalsBehindsOtherTotal shotsAccuracy %
Lincoln McCarthy17542665.4
Mitch Robinson12532060
Daniel McStay171233253.1
Charlie Cameron292285949.2
Hugh McCluggage168113545.7
Eric Hipwood2622105844.8
Cam Rayner141623243.8
Dayne Zorko121383336.4
Jarryd Lyons7762035



As frustrating as McStay is he's not our worst kick for goal although this doesn't include out of bounds on the full


I think they got their info from this website (https://www.statsinsider.com.au/afl/shot-charting) which is as comprehensive as it gets. Broken down by player, time, general play or set shots, got them on a heat map, everything.

For example you can see that Port are a low 39% accurate from general play but much higher from set shots, I'm sure this is the type of thing the coaches are all over.
 
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