Autopsy Lions get Naught in English Test - Rd 4, 2021

[Doggstats]

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Can't say I expected Lewis Young to be the fastest bloke on the team.

Not surprising. He ran a 2.97second 20m sprint at the combine at just 17yrs old, which is incredible for someone his size. In comparison Vandemeer ran a 3.02 and Ed Richards a 3.01.

Hell, Zac Bailey ran a 2.98 and was drafted for his speed and Lewy ran him down with ease on the weekend.


From Zac Baileys draft profile:
"Bailey possesses elite speed, in particular his acceleration which is far greater than majority of the other midfielders likely to be selected in the opening two rounds of the 2017 NAB AFL Draft. His time of 2.98 seconds in the 20m sprint at the NAB AFL Draft Combine, was in the top 10 for all players who tested at the National Combine. It isn’t just off the field where he shows his speed, but during games it is notable."

 

[doggies ftw]

Not surprising. He ran a 2.97second 20m sprint at the combine at just 17yrs old, which is incredible for someone his size. In comparison Vandemeer ran a 3.02 and Ed Richards a 3.01.

Hell, Zac Bailey ran a 2.98 and was drafted for his speed and Lewy ran him down with ease on the weekend.


From Zac Baileys draft profile:
"Bailey possesses elite speed, in particular his acceleration which is far greater than majority of the other midfielders likely to be selected in the opening two rounds of the 2017 NAB AFL Draft. His time of 2.98 seconds in the 20m sprint at the NAB AFL Draft Combine, was in the top 10 for all players who tested at the National Combine. It isn’t just off the field where he shows his speed, but during games it is notable."

20m sprint times are strange sometimes, would have thought Ed and VDM would have easily ran a sub 3 second 20m. Whereas Cav ran a 2.88! Which is ridiculously quick (Jack Petreccule who is lighting quick ran a 2.87). Would be interesting to see what players run as a 17yo at the combine and then 4 years later as a 21/22 year old.

 

[dogwatch]

Does anyone know how they eliminate the variable of reaction time in 20m sprints? When it's a total of about 3 secs any momentary lapse in focus could cost maybe 0.1-0.2 of a second which is huge considering the comparisons that are made on the basis of 0.05 difference (or less).

Do they run them multiple times and average them out or perhaps just remove the slowest times? Or do they have a lights system like the F1 drivers have at the starting grid?

 

[Mattdougie]

Is that you, Bruce? I actually saw him play.

So did I.

Roos was a very good footballer under any measure

 

[Mofra]

20m sprint times are strange sometimes, would have thought Ed and VDM would have easily ran a sub 3 second 20m. Whereas Cav ran a 2.88! Which is ridiculously quick (Jack Petreccule who is lighting quick ran a 2.87). Would be interesting to see what players run as a 17yo at the combine and then 4 years later as a 21/22 year old.

It's more a test of acceleration than top line speed though. Pretty important for forwards and back, less so for mids.
Bont was in the bottom 10% at draft camp IIRC.

 

[Mofra]

Does anyone know how they eliminate the variable of reaction time in 20m sprints? When it's a total of about 3 secs any momentary lapse in focus could cost maybe 0.1-0.2 of a second which is huge considering the comparisons that are made on the basis of 0.05 difference (or less).

Do they run them multiple times and average them out or perhaps just remove the slowest times? Or do they have a lights system like the F1 drivers have at the starting grid?

Best of 3 at national draft camp (it used to be, anyway).
We still do them during pre-season. There was a story about how Crossy used to get so geed up for it and all the players would watch his run, only for poor Crossy to post the slowest time in the group year on year.

A year or two ago Jong used to just shade Stringer and JJ as our quickest. Ryan Gardner is really quick too.

 

[Testekill]

Not surprising. He ran a 2.97second 20m sprint at the combine at just 17yrs old, which is incredible for someone his size. In comparison Vandemeer ran a 3.02 and Ed Richards a 3.01.

Hell, Zac Bailey ran a 2.98 and was drafted for his speed and Lewy ran him down with ease on the weekend.


From Zac Baileys draft profile:
"Bailey possesses elite speed, in particular his acceleration which is far greater than majority of the other midfielders likely to be selected in the opening two rounds of the 2017 NAB AFL Draft. His time of 2.98 seconds in the 20m sprint at the NAB AFL Draft Combine, was in the top 10 for all players who tested at the National Combine. It isn’t just off the field where he shows his speed, but during games it is notable."

I can't believe that they didn't call HTB on that.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Not surprising. He ran a 2.97second 20m sprint at the combine at just 17yrs old, which is incredible for someone his size. In comparison Vandemeer ran a 3.02 and Ed Richards a 3.01.

Hell, Zac Bailey ran a 2.98 and was drafted for his speed and Lewy ran him down with ease on the weekend.


From Zac Baileys draft profile:
"Bailey possesses elite speed, in particular his acceleration which is far greater than majority of the other midfielders likely to be selected in the opening two rounds of the 2017 NAB AFL Draft. His time of 2.98 seconds in the 20m sprint at the NAB AFL Draft Combine, was in the top 10 for all players who tested at the National Combine. It isn’t just off the field where he shows his speed, but during games it is notable."

Bailey clearly had a look at Young and though Ive got this big plodders measure.

You can literally see the 'oh, *' moment on his face as he tries to shimmy to his left and then ultimately goes to ground in the tackle.

 

[Triple Baileys]

So did I.

Roos was a very best good footballer under any measure

Oh well, we'll have to agree to disagree, I'm in the he was in the seriously over-rated camp.

 

[stefoid]

It's more a test of acceleration than top line speed though. Pretty important for forwards and back, less so for mids.
Bont was in the bottom 10% at draft camp IIRC.

Bont kart

 

[Doggstats]

Does anyone know how they eliminate the variable of reaction time in 20m sprints? When it's a total of about 3 secs any momentary lapse in focus could cost maybe 0.1-0.2 of a second which is huge considering the comparisons that are made on the basis of 0.05 difference (or less).

Do they run them multiple times and average them out or perhaps just remove the slowest times? Or do they have a lights system like the F1 drivers have at the starting grid?

It's electronically timed with sensors like the NFL draft dash, so it takes reaction time out of it. And yea I believe they run it a couple of times too.

There's another test they use to measure reaction times, where they hit flashing lights on a board.

 

[Mr. Walker]

Is that you, Bruce? I actually saw him play.

Is his real name Bruce? I have been watching a bit of tv lately and there is this guy I could have sworn was him, but his name is Bryce. My bad.

 

[Triple Baileys]

It's more a test of acceleration than top line speed though. Pretty important for forwards and back, less so for mids.
Bont was in the bottom 10% at draft camp IIRC.

Track speed and footy speed are two completely different things.

 

[Triple Baileys]

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: the little guy with the big tackle.

 

[perro_loco]

And he never makes a fuss at contract time, just signs and gets on with life. He'd be the no 1 midfielder at a lot of clubs

best by a country mile. e.g. Brisbane, norf, Essendung.

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

Watch in say 3 years from now, Young will be one of the best players in our side and we will be lauding him.

 

[Bulldog Brent]

Interesting piece of info from Fox Sports.

AFL RULE CONFUSION

The Brisbane Lions were more than a little perturbed by the Western Bulldogs’ team selection on Saturday in Ballarat.

The Lions’ understanding was that the medical substitute must come from the four listed emergencies an hour before the game.

But an hour before the first bounce, emergency Lewis Young

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parachuted into the 22 and Pat Lipinski was demoted from the team to the medical sub.

Man on the Mark understands Brisbane sought clarity from the AFL, which ticked off on the Bulldogs manoeuvre.

The official wording reads: A medical substitute player will be selected from the emergency players named in the team list, which is lodged with the AFL the day prior to the scheduled match.

Brisbane accepted the league’s verdict but believed the wording should be more clear to avoid any ambiguity.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Interesting piece of info from Fox Sports.

AFL RULE CONFUSION

The Brisbane Lions were more than a little perturbed by the Western Bulldogs’ team selection on Saturday in Ballarat.

The Lions’ understanding was that the medical substitute must come from the four listed emergencies an hour before the game.

But an hour before the first bounce, emergency Lewis Young parachuted into the 22 and Pat Lipinski was demoted from the team to the medical sub.

Man on the Mark understands Brisbane sought clarity from the AFL, which ticked off on the Bulldogs manoeuvre.

The official wording reads: A medical substitute player will be selected from the emergency players named in the team list, which is lodged with the AFL the day prior to the scheduled match.

Brisbane accepted the league’s verdict but believed the wording should be more clear to avoid any ambiguity.

Surely it’s blatantly obvious if a player drops from the 22 and is replaced by an emergency the dropped player becomes part of the emergency list.

 

[dogwatch]

Young as an emergency was a late inclusion which is quite legit (even if it was a sneaky move by Bevo). They don’t seem to be querying Young’s inclusion, just Lipinski becoming the medical sub.

As Lipinski didn’t take the field it didn’t affect the outcome of the game so it‘s not only a technicality but a non-issue. But by all means tidy up the wording. Who would have guessed that a last minute rule change by the AFL has holes in it?

 

[RedWhite&Blue]

Not surprising. He ran a 2.97second 20m sprint at the combine at just 17yrs old, which is incredible for someone his size. In comparison Vandemeer ran a 3.02 and Ed Richards a 3.01.

Hell, Zac Bailey ran a 2.98 and was drafted for his speed and Lewy ran him down with ease on the weekend.


From Zac Baileys draft profile:
"Bailey possesses elite speed, in particular his acceleration which is far greater than majority of the other midfielders likely to be selected in the opening two rounds of the 2017 NAB AFL Draft. His time of 2.98 seconds in the 20m sprint at the NAB AFL Draft Combine, was in the top 10 for all players who tested at the National Combine. It isn’t just off the field where he shows his speed, but during games it is notable."

That is some awesome chasing speed from Lewy!
Closing speed for a backman is so important.

 

[Northernsoul74]

That is some awesome chasing speed from Lewy!
Closing speed for a backman is so important.

Yep he has serious upside. Big leap as well plus he’s now over 2 metres.

 

[dogwatch]

That is some awesome chasing speed from Lewy!
Closing speed for a backman is so important.

Yep he has serious upside. Big leap as well plus he’s now over 2 metres.

I think our prayers might have been answered.
I just need to know if he's more powerful than a locomotive.

 

[Brass Dog]

Not surprising. He ran a 2.97second 20m sprint at the combine at just 17yrs old, which is incredible for someone his size. In comparison Vandemeer ran a 3.02 and Ed Richards a 3.01.

Hell, Zac Bailey ran a 2.98 and was drafted for his speed and Lewy ran him down with ease on the weekend.


From Zac Baileys draft profile:
"Bailey possesses elite speed, in particular his acceleration which is far greater than majority of the other midfielders likely to be selected in the opening two rounds of the 2017 NAB AFL Draft. His time of 2.98 seconds in the 20m sprint at the NAB AFL Draft Combine, was in the top 10 for all players who tested at the National Combine. It isn’t just off the field where he shows his speed, but during games it is notable."

Don’t understand how that wasn’t called holding.

 

[RedWhite&Blue]

Yep he has serious upside. Big leap as well plus he’s now over 2 metres.

WTF!
He chases like that, can leap high and take intercept and contested marks and he's now 200cm tall...!!?
Seriously Why TF has he been wallowing in the 2's
I mean Jeeesus

 

[doggie dog]

Not surprising. He ran a 2.97second 20m sprint at the combine at just 17yrs old, which is incredible for someone his size. In comparison Vandemeer ran a 3.02 and Ed Richards a 3.01.

Hell, Zac Bailey ran a 2.98 and was drafted for his speed and Lewy ran him down with ease on the weekend.


From Zac Baileys draft profile:
"Bailey possesses elite speed, in particular his acceleration which is far greater than majority of the other midfielders likely to be selected in the opening two rounds of the 2017 NAB AFL Draft. His time of 2.98 seconds in the 20m sprint at the NAB AFL Draft Combine, was in the top 10 for all players who tested at the National Combine. It isn’t just off the field where he shows his speed, but during games it is notable."

If its possible Doggstats get you the footage of when Lewy corralled Cameron. A brilliant combo of speed and defending.
We have to get some more games and confidence into Lewy, lovin the way he goes about it.