List Changes 2008

[Bulldog Banana]

You need your boys to hit the gym, alot.

It's all good having talls and so forth but if they're gona snap like twiggs
then it won't matter.

Need to get them on the 'special juice' that West Coast used in the 90's

We doggies fans are accutely aware of the lack of physical strength & presence our team has.
The talls issue is a regular thread topic on the bulldogs board, but many people dont realise that we have a number of talls on the list, just that not many have come on, so I reckon a few will be gone at the end of the year.
Our main issue is in the stoppages area where a lack of clearances and leg speed away from the contest hurt us. Cross, West & Boyd are good at getting it, but dont have explosive pace away from the contest to clear the ball faster.

 

[winty]

Offer Playfair and Gardiner to Richmond for their first round draft pick. They're probably stupid enough to fall for it.

 

[sammy the cat]

3rd possibly late 2nd round pick but would rather trade Byrnes.

id rather trade byrnes as well. the thought behind trading kelly is more that if we leave him in our side eventually overtime i think he wont have currency therefore we wont get a real top line pick for him. t trhe minute kelly is betwen our 15 and 22 players and especially with prosmall out of contract is possibly worth trading

 

[CattersforPremiers]

Delist or Trade

Playfair,
Callan,
Sam Hunt

for starters

and the likes of Gardiner and Spencer should be a bit worried too, although id much prefer Gardiner than Playfair

 

[Bryceson]

dont give me crap but would anyone trade kelly ? and if so what for i would be happy to move him on and he would have good value on him now just dont know whats he's worth any idea's ?

If we could get a first round pick then I would be happy. If not then he stays.

Who do people reckon will pick up Tim Callan and for what?

 

[sammy the cat]

If we could get a first round pick then I would be happy. If not then he stays.

Who do people reckon will pick up Tim Callan and for what?

Apparently St.kilda were very interested in him last year. I'd probably say we'd get for Callan something along the lines of pick 50. what do you guys think?

 

[Bryceson]

Apparently St.kilda were very interested in him last year. I'd probably say we'd get for Callan something along the lines of pick 50. what do you guys think?

Screw pick 50. How bout Callan and our 3rd rounder for a 2nd rounder?

 

[sarah.13]

Screw pick 50. How bout Callan and our 3rd rounder for a 2nd rounder?

Sounds good to me,

 

[rizzo]

Screw pick 50. How bout Callan and our 3rd rounder for a 2nd rounder?

Would take that for sure!


On another note, can't believe people don't rate sam hunt!

 

[chapmanmagic35]

Would take that for sure!


On another note, can't believe people don't rate sam hunt!

He impressed throughout the VFL finals series last year, but he obviously hasn't done much this year, or else he would be pushing for selection. If he was in great form, he would have been playing early on when we had KPP injuries early in 2007, especially down in defence.

The writing is on the wall. He has played over 100 VFL games and has played 5 AFL games.

 

[sarah.13]

Must agree with CM35, Hunt is in the same mould as Gardiner and Playfair, very good at Vfl level but not quite up to Afl.
He is on my De-List list.

 

[tiredcat]

He impressed throughout the VFL finals series last year, but he obviously hasn't done much this year, or else he would be pushing for selection. If he was in great form, he would have been playing early on when we had KPP injuries early in 2007, especially down in defence.

The writing is on the wall. He has played over 100 VFL games and has played 5 AFL games.

Well if we add to the Hunt to the other favourites to be delisted Playfair Spencer and Gardiner it will leave us with no backup player over 190cm with any experience.
Grima and Lonergan are over 190 but would have to be elevated from rookie list


Hawkins 105 197
Lonergan 97 197
Ablett N 96 196
Egan 101 196
Mooney 99 195
Spencer 98 194
Harley 95 193
S Hunt 92 193
Grima 88 192
Mackie 84 192
Scarlett 95 192
Corey 87 191
Gardiner 91 190
Johnson S 89 189

 

[chapmanmagic35]

Well if we add to the Hunt to the other favourites to be delisted Playfair Spencer and Gardiner it will leave us with no backup player over 190cm with any experience.
Grima and Lonergan are over 190 but would have to be elevated from rookie list


Hawkins 105 197
Lonergan 97 197
Ablett N 96 196
Egan 101 196
Mooney 99 195
Spencer 98 194
Harley 95 193
S Hunt 92 193
Grima 88 192
Mackie 84 192
Scarlett 95 192
Corey 87 191
Gardiner 91 190
Johnson S 89 189

I was merely talking about Hunt in isolation.

I do think we will keep one of the Gardiner, Playfair and Spencer trio. Unless we promote Lonergan and Grima which would be a better situation.

 

[sarah.13]

Well if we add to the Hunt to the other favourites to be delisted Playfair Spencer and Gardiner it will leave us with no backup player over 190cm with any experience.
Grima and Lonergan are over 190 but would have to be elevated from rookie list


Hawkins 105 197
Lonergan 97 197
Ablett N 96 196
Egan 101 196
Mooney 99 195
Spencer 98 194
Harley 95 193
S Hunt 92 193
Grima 88 192
Mackie 84 192
Scarlett 95 192
Corey 87 191
Gardiner 91 190
Johnson S 89 189

Experience you say,Hunt has played 5 and Spencer 0 Afl games.I believe both Grima and Lonners should be promoted.

 

[rizzo]

Experience you say,Hunt has played 5 and Spencer 0 Afl games.I believe both Grima and Lonners shoul be promoted.

Spencer has played one game from memory.

 

[sarah.13]

Spencer has played one game from memory.

Pretty sure that was NAB cup in 2006.

 

[rizzo]

He actually played two. Against Essendon (Round 11) and Fremantle (round 12) in 2006. Didn't think he played two, but there ya go!

 

[sarah.13]

He actually played two. Against Essendon (Round 11) and Fremantle (round 12) in 2006. Didn't think he played two, but there ya go!

Stand corrected. Obviously they were forgettable!

 

[tiredcat]

Experience you say,Hunt has played 5 and Spencer 0 Afl games.I believe both Grima and Lonners should be promoted.

imo we can only delist 2 of the 4 mentioned this year and I would keep Playfair and Hunt and elevate Grima and Lonergan

Spencer is listed as having played 2 afl games 4 NAB 53 VFL on GFC site and after a promising preseason has not improved
Although Hunt has only played 5 we have had no injuries to tall backmen and he looked capable as a backup early in NAB cup games

 

[Bryceson]

imo we can only delist 2 of the 4 mentioned this year and I would keep Playfair and Hunt and elevate Grima and Lonergan

Spencer is listed as having played 2 afl games 4 NAB 53 VFL on GFC site and after a promising preseason has not improved
Although Hunt has only played 5 we have had no injuries to tall backmen and he looked capable as a backup early in NAB cup games

If we elevate Grima and Lonergan we can de-list/trade them all and draft a tall defender.

 

[thirtyseven]

Why would we want to elevate Lonergan for? We only kept him on the list cause we felt sorry for him!!

 

[FTW_]

Why would we want to elevate Lonergan for? We only kept him on the list cause we felt sorry for him!!

Nah, he was playing pretty well before he got injured and he deserves another chance.

 

[Bryceson]

Why would we want to elevate Lonergan for? We only kept him on the list cause we felt sorry for him!!

We kept him cos he was showing great form in the ones just b4 his injury. Definetly deserves another shot.

 

[Scarlett Fever]

My delisting order is as follows:

Spencer
Owen
S Hunt
Playfair
Callan
Byrnes

I would probably cut the list at Playfair and promote Grima. This would leave us with 3 draft picks. In the real world however, I think other teams will look for value at the lower end of our list. This will probably dictate who stays and who goes. Trading up draft picks will be the way to go! A 4th round pick will just be of no use to us.

 

[eliiiiza]

Byrnes cannot be delisted, he still has a year to go on his contract.

Sorry.