List Mgmt. List Changes, Contract Status and Key Dates - 2015

[JasRulz63]

Thought I'd get this thread going again like last year just to give a quicker overview of our list. We can discuss changes to the list here.

Departures
Senior List (9 out)
Matt Maguire (retired) (source)
Brent Staker (retired) (source)
Luke McGuane (retired) (source)
Mitch Golby (delisted) (source)
Jed Adcock (delisted) (source)
Jack Redden (traded to West Coast) (source)
Matthew Leuenberger (free agent to Essendon) (source)
James Aish (traded to Collingwood) (source)
Jackson Paine (delisted; to be re-drafted) (source)

Rookie List (2 out)
Jordon Bourke (delisted) (source)
Zac O'Brien (delisted) (source)

Draft Picks
Pick 21 (traded to Carlton)
Pick 60 (traded to Carlton)
2016 3rd round selection (traded to Geelong)
Pick 17 (from West Coast on-traded to North Melbourne)

Arrivals
Free Agency/Trades (4 in)
Tom Bell (traded from Carlton) (source)
Jarrad Jansen (traded from Geelong) (source)
Josh Walker (traded from Geelong) (source)
Ryan Bastinac (traded from North Melbourne) (source)

National Draft (5 in)
Pick 2 - Josh Schache (Murray Bushrangers)
Pick 14 - Eric Hipwood (Aspley)
Pick 24 - Ben Keays (Brisbane Lions Reserves)
Pick 39 - Rhys Mathieson (Geelong Falcons)
Pick 47 - Sam Skinner (Gippsland Power)

Rookie Draft (2 in)
Pick 2 - Jackson Paine (Brisbane Lions)
Pick 20 - Reuben William (Zillmere)

Draft Picks
Pick 38 (from North Melbourne)
Pick 39 (Band 4 compensation for Leuenberger)
Pick 40 (from North Melbourne)
Pick 41 (from Carlton)
2016 2nd round selection (St. Kilda, traded via Collingwood)
2016 3rd round selection (North Melbourne)
Pick 17 (from West Coast on-traded to North Melbourne)

Current draft picks
Pick 2 (2,517)
Pick 38 (465)
Pick 39 (446)
Pick 40 (429)
Pick 41 (412)
Pick 42 (395)
Points value in brackets

Completed Trades/Free Agency movements

#|Player(s)/Pick(s)|Traded from|Traded to|Traded for
\ 1 |Pick 17|West Coast|Brisbane Lions|Jack Redden
\ 2 |Pick 39|Free Agency|Brisbane Lions|Matthew Leuenberger
\ 3 |Tom Bell + pick 41|Carlton|Brisbane Lions|Pick 21 + pick 60
\ 4 |Jarrad Jansen + Josh Walker|Geelong|Brisbane Lions|2016 3rd rnd
\ 5 |Ryan Bastinac + pick 38 + 40 + 2016 2nd rnd (STK) + 2016 3rd rnd (NTH)|Collingwood + North Melbourne|Brisbane Lions|James Aish + pick 17

List Housekeeping
Current List
Senior List (40 players currently) - year contract ends (free agency status at end of contract)

1. Ben Keays - 2017
2. Ryan Harwood - 2017
3. Allen Christensen - 2018
4. Ryan Bastinac - 2019
5. Mitch Robinson - 2016
6. Josh Green - 2016
7. Tom Bell - 2018
8. Rohan Bewick - 2016
9. Dayne Beams - 2019
10. Daniel Rich - 2016 (RFA)
11. Pearce Hanley - 2018 (RFA)
12. Stefan Martin - 2016
13. Trent West - 2016
14. Josh Walker - 2018
15. Dayne Zorko - 2016
16. Jarrad Jansen - 2017
17. Claye Beams - 2017
18. Nicholas Robertson - 2017
19. Josh Clayton - 2016
20. Josh Watts -2016
21. Daniel Merrett - 2016 (UFA)
22. Marco Paparone - 2016
23. Josh Schache - 2017
24. Liam Dawson - 2016
25. Daniel McStay - 2017
26. Tom Cutler - 2017
27. Darcy Gardiner - 2016
28. Lewis Taylor - 2016
29. Jaden McGrath - 2016
30. Eric Hipwood - 2017
31. Harris Andrews - 2018
32. Sam Mayes - 2016
33. Michael Close - 2017
34. Jonathan Freeman - 2017
35. Ryan Lester - 2016
36. Rhys Mathieson - 2017
38. Tom Rockliff - 2017 (RFA)
42. Justin Clarke - 2016
43. Josh McGuinness - 2016
41. Sam Skinner - 2017

Rookie List (currently - 4 category A players, 1 category B players) - years on rookie list (next year)
39. Jackson Paine - 1st year
40. Matt Hammelmann - 2nd year
46. Billy Evans - 2nd year
48. Hugh Beasley - 2nd year
37. Cian Hanley (category B - Ireland) - 2nd year
44. Archie Smith (category B - QLD zone) - 3rd year
47. Reuben William (category B - QLD zone) - 1st year

NB: Senior list size = 38-40 players. Rookie list size = 4-6 category A (dependent on number on senior list), 3 category B (QLD zone, international)
Rookies are required to be delisted or upgraded at the end of their third year

New Numbers
1. Ben Keays
4. Ryan Bastinac
7. Tom Bell
14. Josh Walker
16. Jarrad Jansen
23. Josh Schache
30. Eric Hipwood
36. Rhys Mathieson
41. Sam Skinner
47. Reuben William

Available Numbers

 

[JasRulz63]

Key off-season dates

Friday 25 September 2pm - Draft Eligible Academy Player Nominations Lodged

Friday 9 October - AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period Commences

Monday 12 October 10am - NAB AFL Trade Period Commences

Sunday 18 October 5pm - Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Wednesday 21 October - AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends

Thursday 22 October 2pm – NAB AFL Trade Period Closes

Friday 23 October 5pm - Application to Relist a Player Close

Friday 30 October 2pm - List Lodgement (1) ; Rookie Promotion to Primary List; Retained 2nd & 3rd Year Rookies; International Scholarship Player; Alternate Talent Player Nominations; Club Notification of Rookie Players Not Accepting a Contract of Offer; Nomination of Draft Eligible Father/Son Players Lodged; TPP Pre-Season Estimates (1).

Saturday 31 October - AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) Commences

Monday 9 November 5pm - AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) Closes

Monday 9 November 2pm - Out of Contract Listed AFL Primary List Players Draft Nomination Form and Player Request for Removal from List Form Lodged with AFL

Tuesday 10 November 2pm - List Lodgement (2); TPP Pre-Season Estimates (2)

Wednesday 11 November - AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) Commences

Tuesday 17 November 2pm - Delisted Primary List Draft Nomination Form Lodgement; Non–Retained Rookie Players Draft Nomination Form Lodgement; Players Not Registered or Played for Three years Rookie List Form lodgement; New or Expired (after 3 years) Draft Nomination Form Lodgement.

Friday 20 November 5pm - AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) Closes

Tuesday 24 November - NAB AFL Draft Selection Meeting (Adelaide Convention Centre) including Father/Son & Academy Players Bidding.

Wednesday 25 November - AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) Commences

Thursday 26 November 2pm - AFL Delisted Free Agency Period (3) Concludes; AFL Club List Lodgement (3).

Friday 27 November 11am - NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft Selection Meeting (Telstra Webex)

Friday 27 November 11:05am - Notification of Pre-Selected Rookies if not selected in the Pre-Season Draft.

Friday 27 November 11:10am - NAB AFL Rookie Draft Selection Meeting (Telstra Webex)

Tuesday 1 December 2pm - Final AFL Club List Lodgement; Final TPP Pre-Season Estimates

Friday 4 December 2pm - International Players Inclusion on Rookie List Form Lodgement.

 

[JasRulz63]

Out of contract (senior list):
Aish
Adcock (UFA)
Bewick
Leuenberger (RFA)
Golby
McGuane

Out of contract (rookie list):
Hammelmann
Evans
O'Brien
Beasley
C. Hanley
Smith
Bourke *needs to be delisted or upgraded to senior list*

With Maguire already retired, who else do we think will be delisted (or potentially retired in Staker's case)?

 

[Schache It Off]

Lots of people out of contract 2016

Hoping Mayes, Gardiner, Squizzy etc sign on longer.

 

[jackess]

Lions Twitter is teasing an interview with Dawson. Possibly having re-signed...

 

[Groo2]

Lots of people out of contract 2016

Hoping Mayes, Gardiner, Squizzy etc sign on, unlike longer.

 

[Schache It Off]

We got Mcstay because of Longer right?

If so, cheers Aints. Love it when clubs try to rip us off but we grow stronger.

 

[WA Lion]

Lots of people out of contract 2016

Hoping Mayes, Gardiner, Squizzy etc sign on longer.

Yeah, next season is a real line in the sand moment in terms of out of contract. I think we can be confident on Gardiner, as when Andrews won the NAB rising star the other week, Dizzy tweeted he hoped to play alongside him for many years to come.

And with Dizzy and Squizzy being best mates, that hopefully helps with Squizz.

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

Out of contract (senior list):
Aish
Adcock (UFA)
Bewick
Staker
Leuenberger (RFA)
Golby

Out of contract (rookie list):
Hammelmann
Evans
O'Brien
Beasley
C. Hanley
Smith
Bourke *needs to be delisted or upgraded to senior list*

With Maguire already retired, who else do we think will be delisted (or potentially retired in Staker's case)?

Golby and quite possibly Bewick.

 

[SizeMatters]

Better hope we at least push for top 8 next season or I could see a few players wanting out TBH.

 

[Schache It Off]

Yeah, next season is a real line in the sand moment in terms of out of contract. I think we can be confident on Gardiner, as when Andrews won the NAB rising star the other week, Dizzy tweeted he hoped to play alongside him for many years to come.

And with Dizzy and Squizzy being best mates, that hopefully helps with Squizz.

Yeah, I don't think I can handle another year with so many important players unsigned, it was bad enough with Aish.

Would be nearly done with AFL if we faced another exodus...* me

 

[Bucking Beads]

Better hope we at least push for top 8 next season or I could see a few players wanting out TBH.

We will be wanting to lock down most of the off contract stars in the off season. Usually if they haven't signed on early they are gone.

 

[WA Lion]

Yeah, I don't think I can handle another year with so many important players unsigned, it was bad enough with Aish.

Would be nearly done with AFL if we faced another exodus...**** me

Yeah same, when you look at that list of players out of contract for 2016, that is our future right there

 

[Kevvo]

It wouldn't surprise me if the younger guys are more settled than the older guys. Everything Leppa has said and done suggests a longer term plan, and whether through circumstance or preference he's got a lot of games into the younger guys and given them prominent roles. I'd expect a lot of them feel assured of their roles long term, where some more senior guys might not be patient with the rebuild or happy with playing lesser roles than they'd like.

 

[WA Lion]

Out of contract (senior list):
Aish
Adcock (UFA)
Bewick
Staker
Leuenberger (RFA)
Golby

Out of contract (rookie list):
Hammelmann
Evans
O'Brien
Beasley
C. Hanley
Smith
Bourke *needs to be delisted or upgraded to senior list*

With Maguire already retired, who else do we think will be delisted (or potentially retired in Staker's case)?

Sadly I think it is a reasonable chance that everyone out of contract on that senior list moves on. Aish, Bewick, Golby and Staker certainties IMO. Would like Adcock to stay purely for experience even if he doesn't get a game. Leuey I have always been a fan of, so would love to see him stay. McGuane said in an interview this week he is out of contract at the seasons end, and you would think his future depends largely on his knee. Paine also in trouble I think too.

Of the rookies, I don't think Bourke has done enough so he goes. Smith was always going to be a project player so happy for him to get another year. Beasly, Evans and C Hanley (no point cutting him after 1 year) to stay on rookie list or in Beasly's case perhaps be elevated to senior list. Hammelman I'm not sure about, young talls rarely set the world on fire early but by all accounts he has been underwhelming. His future could depend on if we can get and rate highly enough, people like Buzza and Dennis

 

[WA Lion]

It wouldn't surprise me if the younger guys are more settled than the older guys. Everything Leppa has said and done suggests a longer term plan, and whether through circumstance or preference he's got a lot of games into the younger guys and given them prominent roles. I'd expect a lot of them feel assured of their roles long term, where some more senior guys might not be patient with the rebuild or happy with playing lesser roles than they'd like.

Yeah what your saying makes sense for sure, only issue being youngsters these days seem to be getting impatient and wanting success much earlier in their careers. We might be vulnerable to losing someone like a Mayes or maybe a Redden under those circumstances.

 

[WA Lion]

Lions Twitter is teasing an interview with Dawson. Possibly having re-signed...

Can only hope!

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

Lions Twitter is teasing an interview with Dawson. Possibly having re-signed...

Don't they usually do that in a press release or conference - doing it in an interview would be a bit unusual don't you think?

 

[John_Proctor]

Would have thought having 20 out of contract at the end of next year at this time of year is pretty standard for most clubs.

 

[bato]

Would have thought having 20 out of contract at the end of next year at this time of year is pretty standard for most clubs.

Yep, Geelong's whole list is pretty much out of contract.

 

[Schache It Off]

Yeah, next season is a real line in the sand moment in terms of out of contract. I think we can be confident on Gardiner, as when Andrews won the NAB rising star the other week, Dizzy tweeted he hoped to play alongside him for many years to come.

And with Dizzy and Squizzy being best mates, that hopefully helps with Squizz.

I'm very confident on retaining Dizzy and Squizzy.

Really would love to have Mayes sign for a long time, from the posts I have read on here - He loves it up North, loyal and wants to start a new life there...So I am REALLY hoping that is 100% true.

Apparently is very close to Closey so maybe that will help also

 

[Schache It Off]

Don't they usually do that in a press release or conference - doing it in an interview would be a bit unusual don't you think?

Wasn't Nick Robbo an interview?

 

[neg99]

Pretty sure there are a lot of players league wide out of contract next year as the new CBA will kick in the year after. No one will sign on until the CBA is negotiated and the new (higher) salary cap is locked in. Everyone will be pinning their hopes on a bigger payday on the new cap.


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[Last of the Roys]

Out of contract (senior list):
Aish
Adcock (UFA)
Bewick
Staker
Leuenberger (RFA)
Golby

Out of contract (rookie list):
Hammelmann
Evans
O'Brien
Beasley
C. Hanley
Smith
Bourke *needs to be delisted or upgraded to senior list*

With Maguire already retired, who else do we think will be delisted (or potentially retired in Staker's case)?

So is Harwood out of contract as well or is signed beyond 2015?

 

[JasRulz63]

So is Harwood out of contract as well or is signed beyond 2015?

Accidentally left Harwood and McGuane out of my list.