List Mgmt. List Changes, Contract Status and Key Dates - 2017

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  1. JasRulz63

    JasRulz63 Norm Smith Medallist

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    Departures
    Senior List (8 out)
    Ryan Harwood (delisted) (source)
    Jarrad Jansen (delisted) (source)
    Jonathan Freeman (delisted) (source)
    Josh Clayton (delisted) (source)
    Michael Close (delisted) (source)
    Claye Beams (delisted) (source)
    Tom Rockliff (free agent to Port Adelaide) (source)
    Josh Schache (traded to Western Bulldogs) (source)

    Rookie List (4 out)
    Blake Grewar (delisted) (source)
    Cian Hanley (delisted) (source)
    Reuben William (delisted) (source)
    Matthew Hammelmann (delisted) (source)

    Draft Picks
    Pick 12
    Pick 20
    Pick 25
    Pick 43
    Pick 75


    Arrivals
    Free Agency/Trades (2 in)
    Luke Hodge (traded from Hawthorn) (source)
    Charlie Cameron (traded from Adelaide) (source)

    National Draft (6 in)
    Pick 1 - Cameron Rayner
    Pick 15 - Zac Bailey
    Pick 18 - Brandon Stacevich
    Pick 41 - Tom Wooller
    Pick 43 - Connor Ballenden
    Pick 54 - Jack Payne

    Rookie Draft (0 in)
    Pick xx. Claye Beams (category A)
    Pick xx. Cian Hanley (category B - Ireland)


    Draft Picks
    Pick 15
    Pick 18
    Pick 25
    Pick 40
    Pick 44
    Pick 52


    Current draft picks
    Pick 1 (3000)
    Pick 15 (1112)
    Pick 18 (985)
    Pick 40 (429)
    Pick 44 (362)
    Pick 52 (246)
    Points value in brackets

    Completed Trades/Free Agency movements
    #Player(s)/Pick(s)Traded fromTraded toTraded for
    1Band 2 compensation (pick 18)Free AgencyBrisbane LionsTom Rockliff
    2Luke Hodge + pick 44HawthornBrisbane LionsPick 43 + 75
    3Charlie CameronAdelaideBrisbane LionsPick 12
    4Pick 25 + 40Western BulldogsBrisbane LionsJosh Schache
    5Pick 15 + 52RichmondBrisbane LionsPick 20 + 25


    List Housekeeping
    Current List
    Senior List (40 players - year contract ends)
    1. Ben Keays - 2019
    2. Luke Hodge - 2019
    3. Allen Christensen - 2018
    4. Ryan Bastinac - 2019
    5. Mitch Robinson - 2018
    6. Hugh McCluggage - 2018
    7. Tom Bell - 2018
    8. Rohan Bewick - 2018
    9. Dayne Beams – 2019
    10. Daniel Rich - 2021
    12. Stefan Martin - 2019
    13. Jarrod Berry - 2020
    14. Josh Walker - 2018
    15. Dayne Zorko - 2020
    18. Nicholas Robertson - 2019
    19. Jacob Allison - 2020
    20. Cedric Cox - 2020
    21. Sam Skinner - 2019
    22. Marco Paparone - 2018
    23. Charlie Cameron - 2021
    24. Liam Dawson - 2018
    25. Daniel McStay - 2019
    26. Tom Cutler – 2019
    27. Darcy Gardiner - 2019
    28. Lewis Taylor - 2019
    29. Alex Witherden - 2018
    30. Eric Hipwood - 2020
    31. Harris Andrews - 2021
    32. Sam Mayes - 2019
    35. Ryan Lester - 2018
    36. Rhys Mathieson - 2019
    39. Corey Lyons - 2019
    44. Archie Smith - 2020
    45. Jack Frost - 2019
    xx. Cameron Rayner - 2019
    xx. Zac Bailey - 2019
    xx. Brandon Starcevich - 2019
    xx. Toby Wooller - 2019
    xx. Connor Ballenden - 2019
    xx. Jack Payne - 2019

    Rookie List (currently - 3 category A player, 1 category B players) - years on rookie list (this year)
    41. Matt Eagles (category B - The Recruit) - 1st year
    42. Mitchell Hinge - 1st year
    43. Jake Barrett - 1st year
    46. Oscar McInerney - 1st year (contracted 2019)
    11. Cian Hanley (category B - Ireland) - drafted 2017
    17. Claye Beams - drafted 2017
    NB: Senior list size = 38-40 players. Rookie list size = 4-6 category A (dependent on number on senior list), 3 category B (QLD zone, international)

    Rookies are required to be delisted or upgraded at the end of their third year

    New Numbers

    #2 - Luke Hodge
    #19 - Jacob Allison (from #37)
    #23 - Charlie Cameron

    Available Numbers

    16, 33, 34, 37, 38, 40, 47
     
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  2. JasRulz63

    JasRulz63 Norm Smith Medallist

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    Off-season Dates
    Tuesday October 3 – Friday October 6
    AFL Draft Combine, Melbourne

    Friday 6 October
    Victorian Draft Combine

    Friday 6 – Sunday 15 October
    AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period

    Sunday 8 October
    Victoria Rookie-Me Combine

    Monday 9 October at 10.00am – Thursday 19 October at 2.00pm
    AFL Trade Period

    Saturday 14 October
    South Australian Draft Combine

    Sunday 15 October
    West Australian Draft Combine

    Wednesday 18 October
    AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends

    Thursday 19 October at 2.00pm
    AFL Trade Period Closes

    Friday 20 October by 5.00pm
    Application to Relist a Player Close

    Tuesday 31 October by 2.00pm
    List Lodgement
    Rookie Promotion to Primary List

    • Retained 2nd & 3rd Year Rookies
    • International Scholarship Player
    • Alternate Talent Player Nominations
    • Club Notification of Rookie Players Not Accepting a Contract of Offer
    • Player Request to be Removed from List (Retired)
    Tuesday 31 October by 2.00pm
    Nomination of Draft Eligible Father/Son Players Lodged
    Nomination of Draft Eligible Northern & NGA Academy Players Lodged
    TPP Pre-Season Estimates

    Wednesday 1 – Wednesday 8 November
    AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period

    Wednesday 8 November by 2.00pm
    Out of Contract Listed AFL Primary List Players Draft Nomination Form and Player Request for Removal from List Form Lodged with AFL

    Thursday 9 November by 2.00pm
    List Lodgement

    Thursday 9 November by 2.00pm
    TPP Pre-Season Estimates

    Friday 10 – Friday 17 November by 5.00pm
    AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period

    Friday 17 November by 2.00pm
    Delisted Primary List Draft Nomination Form Lodgement
    Note: Delisted Primary List player’s must stipulate if they are either entering the National Draft or if the Nomination Form is to be held over for the Pre-Season Draft

    Friday 17 November by 2.00pm
    Non–Retained Rookie Players Draft Nomination Form Lodgement
    Note: Rookie Listed Players not retained by their Club must renominate for the National Draft to be eligible for the Pre-Season and Rookie Drafts. If a non-retained rookie does not nominate for the National Draft he will not be eligible for the Pre-Season and Rookie Drafts.

    Friday 17 November by 2.00pm (Last date for lodgement prior to Rookie Draft)
    Players Not Registered or Played for 3 years Rookie List Form lodgement.
    International Players Inclusion on Rookie List Form Lodgement
    Final Draft Nomination Form Lodgement
    AFL Father-Son Bidding Nominations lodged with AFL

    Friday 24 November
    AFL Draft

    Saturday 25 November – Sunday 26 November at 2.00pm
    AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period

    Monday 27 November at Midday
    AFL Club List Lodgement

    Monday 27 November at 12.00pm
    Pre-Selected Rookies
    • NSW and Queensland Eligible Pre-Selected Rookie Player Nominations Lodged
    • Father-Son Pre-Selected Rookie Player Nominations Lodged
    • Academy Pre-Selected Rookie Player Nominations Lodged
    • International Scholarship Pre-Selected Rookie Player Nomination Lodged
    Monday 27 November at 5.00pm
    NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft Selection Meeting

    Monday 27 November at 5.05pm
    Notification of Pre-Selected Rookies Nominated on Monday 28 November midday if not selected in the Pre-Season Draft.

    Monday 27 November at 5.10pm
    AFL Rookie Draft Selection Meeting

    Wednesday 29 November by 2.00pm
    Final AFL Club List Lodgement

    Wednesday 29 November by 2.00pm
    Final TPP Pre-Season Estimates
     
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  3. JasRulz63

    JasRulz63 Norm Smith Medallist

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    Out of contract players
    2. Ryan Harwood - delisted
    16. Jarrad Jansen - delisted
    17. Claye Beams - delisted
    19. Josh Clayton - delisted
    33. Michael Close - delisted
    34. Jonathan Freeman - delisted
    38. Tom Rockliff - departed free agent
    13. Cian Hanley (R) - delisted
    40. Matthew Hammelmann (R) - delisted
    41. Matt Eagles (R) - retained
    42. Mitchell Hinge (R) - retained
    43. Jake Barrett (R) - retained
    46. Oscar McInerney (R) - retained
    47. Reuben William (R) - delisted
    48. Blake Grewar (R) - delisted
     
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  4. John_Proctor

    John_Proctor Club Legend

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    so first 5 are done.

    Harwood, Freeman, Clayton, Janson and Grewar out the door.
     
  5. JasRulz63

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    Updated...I think.
     
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  6. dlanod

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    No real surprises.
     
  7. Scubaveg

    Scubaveg Premiership Player

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    So is McCluggage is the only one of the 2016 top ten picks not recontracted?


    On iPhone using BigFooty.com mobile app
     
  8. irish

    irish Premiership Player

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    Looks like most players are signed and sealed this year , witherden , bundy and Robinson the priority to recommit then walker , Dawson , and lester. Others have to earn one with a good 2018 ?

    Thoughts
     
  9. BigCat2

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    Dawson is on shaky ground I would have thought.

    We'll keep Lester - in leadership group and a good clubman.
     
  10. Len S

    Len S Club Legend

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    Agree,Dawson is fragile,and many have gone past him.Now that Hodge is there,Lester shouldnt be too complacent,needs to do more than be a good clubman,as worthy as that may be.
     
  11. Groo2

    Groo2 All Australian

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    Not sure how Robinson fits into Fagan's plans going forward. Really hope he has a great year, but I rekon the club might wait and see how he goes early rounds before opening negotiations.
     

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  12. Billy Puller

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    Count on Dawson to be cut, almost gone this year. Not in Fagans plans going forward, count on it
     
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  13. Nunez

    Nunez Norm Smith Medallist

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    Does Dawson know that?
     
  14. Skoob

    Skoob Brownlow Medallist

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    Actually, he was pretty much resigned to being let go. Was looking forward to going back to local footy with his mates (or at least that would be some consolation).
    He’s capable in a number of positions, but doesn’t excel at any (comparative to others on the list). Just needs to find some confidence and apply himself.
     
  15. scoman

    scoman Premiership Player

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    Are you suggesting he was almost cut before his contract expired? Pay out one year early?
     
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    Nunez Norm Smith Medallist

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    Just asking as imagine Dawson reading Billy Pullers comments if he didn't already know Fagan has no use for him in his plans. Would be a pretty shitty thing to read (not that BP cares...)
     
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  17. BuntonRules

    BuntonRules long term substance abuser

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    If a player is silly enough to read this type of site, he probably expects to read comments like this. In reality he would be well aware he is on thin ice with the length of time he has been on the list.
     
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    Pretty sure Dawso has a better idea about where he's at (in his own mind and the coaches) than some BigFooty 'expert'. ;)
     
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  19. winged1

    winged1 Premiership Player

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    Bell, Bewick, paps and dawson would all know they need to pull something out of the bag. You only need to look at the contract expiry dates.
     
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  20. Gadzorks

    Gadzorks Club Legend

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    Had a chat to Jansen toward the end of last season.really likeable young man - anyway he had played that day and said he'd had a pretty ordinary game. Can't remember the exact conversation but he Seemed well aware with where he was at and the likelihood of leaving. Pretty sure that by the time the club is ready to let them go they know exactly where they stand.
     
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  21. Dlions

    Dlions Premiership Player

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    All a part of Chris Fagan's open door, yet broken hearted policy.:brokenheart:
     
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  22. Lazza16

    Lazza16 Club Legend

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    I think Dawson just needs time and I hope Beams/Hodge may bring some composure his way. He has been back.....forward.... back.....back which u need to do theses days so fingers crossed coz he is a good sized lad a local lions dude.
     
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  23. JasperBeardly

    JasperBeardly Team Captain

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    It's no different to any annual performance review in a workplace. If a manager is doing their job well and communicating regularly throughout the year, then nothing a staff member hears in that meeting should come as a surprise.
     
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  24. winged1

    winged1 Premiership Player

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    He needs to change his attitude and realise this is his only shot.
     
  25. Brett C

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    It could just be he’s not good enough. Seems to be one of the those players that could play anywhere on the ground and do a decent job but never really makes his mark.
     
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