Mega Thread List Changes, Drafting, Trading & Rookie Thread

[Wargreymon90]

When ever I saw jolly he always looked a bit overweight. His issues are probably disciplinary

 

[b0ydman]

Email doing the rounds here in Melbourne
Comment about Kosi buried deep in here
Yep, he's a certain.
Cloke, Renouf, Kozi
You know its true


Subject: Letter to Travis Cloke from a Collingwood Fan
Dear Travis, I’m going to keep this brief, as wasting any more oxygen, emotion or brain cells on you than I already have will end up the same way as a paedophile attending a Wiggles concert. Not so good.

You have 256 peers that, like you, have played all four matches from rounds fourteen through seventeen. Defenders, midfielders, forwards big and small, first-gamers, mature-aged recruits, players new to the sport from overseas, players returning from injury, players rotated an inordinate amount of times, players that spend a lot less TOG than you, players affected by the red/green vests etc. 256 players. Of that number, you have touched the ball more times in the last month than only 8% of your peers. Eight per-cent. From watching you in the media throughout your career, I understand that maths may not be your strongest suit, hell, anything remotely academic past year eight is probably not your bread and butter, so I’ll try and make things easier for you. Grab eleven mates. Join them and line up against a wall in order of best to worst, from first to twelfth. Currently Travis, you are twelfth, you are the worst.

And it’s not as if the entire 92% above you is made up of your Swans, Abletts, Thompsons, Boyds and Stantons. No, veterans like Carlton’s Matthew Watson (10 games), West Coast’s Jacob Brennan (11), Bulldog Christian Howard (13), Gold Coast’s Charlie Dixon (17) and Port’s Andrew Moore (20) are all getting more of the pill than you. Let’s not even mention the teenagers who have been getting more touches, names like: Greene, Ellis, Hampton, Treloar, Bennell, Caddy, Atley and Dahlhaus.

“It’s not all about possessions”, I hear you plead. OK, I’ll cut you some slack. You’re a key forward, a marking forward, a power forward. You’ve taken fourteen marks (eight contested) in the last month. Again, almost three-quarters of the league have snaffled more marks in that time, so you’ll struggle to hang your hat on any marking-related stat.

Goal-kicking? You’ve kicked six in the last month, at 1.5 per game (down even on your 1.57 career average). But in reality, are you even a goal-kicker? Let’s chew on that for a moment and compare your career stats versus your (positional) peers – key/leading/power/marking forwards in Franklin, Podsiadly, Brown, Pavlich, Riewoldt (x2) and Roughead. Hell, I’ll even throw the tip-rat Milne into the equation, as even he has managed to pants you over 250+ games the little bugger. That’s you against eight others. I’ll highlight a handful of categories with the leading player’s stat, the second-worst (or 8th of 9) stat and yours. Here goes:

Goals Per game:
BEST – Franklin 3.22 from 156 matches.
8th of NINE – Roughead 1.90 from 151 matches.
CLOKE – 1.57 from 165 matches.

Goal-Kicking Accuracy (never mind Out Of Bounds!):
BEST – Milne at 64.3%
8th of NINE – Franklin at 57.6%
CLOKE – 53.4%

Bags of goals (5+):
BEST – Franklin with 43 x 5+ goal matches
8th of NINE – Podsiadly with 11 bags (from only 54 matches)
CLOKE – 9 x 5+ goal matches

Frequency of kicking a bag of 5+ goals:
BEST – Franklin with one 5+ goal haul every 3.6 matches
8th of NINE – Milne at 1 every 14.0 matches
CLOKE – 1 every 18.3 matches.

So it turns out you’re not really a goal-kicker of any note either.

You’re not taking marks, therefore you’re not getting touches and as a result (not surprisingly given your very average career stats) you’re not kicking goals. Yet Daddy thinks you’re worth $1m+ a year? Let’s re-visit the blokes that sat below you in the stats count recently.

There are twenty-two players that have racked up less than your forty-one touches over the last month. Six of these players have been wearers of the green vest in Lovett-Murray and Campbell (3), Young and Newman (2), Patrick and Harper (1), so it would be unfair to bundle these blokes alongside you due to reduced ground time. Jack Darling (9), Lindsay Thomas (9), Ahmed Saad (7) and Robbie Tarrant (6) have kicked as many or more goals than you have, so they get a tick. Nathan Wilson, Sam Day and Jamie Elliott are still teenagers so it would be unfair to judge them harshly at this stage of their careers. Nick Duigan and Paul Puopolo, in only their second seasons, can be excused using a similar judgement. That leaves only seven blokes (of 256) that you can fairly say you are going better than:

Mike Pyke – a Canadian import whose output includes 22+ hit-outs per match
Matthew Lobbe – a 17-game veteran holding his own with 18 hit-outs per match
LRT and Andrejs Everitt – part of a team that’s gone 4-0 in that period
Matthew Warnock (key defender in a side that gets smashed), Jared Rivers and Justin Koschitzke.

Not too many Brownlows, Colemans or All-Australians in that bunch. Just good, honest toilers. Yet I’d hazard a guess that Daddy is trying to get a contract signed that earns you as much as these seven blokes combined. Yes, you’re a massive unit. Yes, you have a tank that allows you to run all day. Yes, you’ve had one good year (hell, so did Allen Jakovich and Adrian McAdam). But what you have allowed to happen by letting Daddy handle your affairs has been sad/comical/farcical to watch unfold.

I hope you kick twelve against GWS and beat up on them like a flat-track bully. I hope that performance will push to one side the on-field petulance you have shown increasingly of late. I hope you finish the year with a Collingwood flag, but will not be holding my breath on the last one. I also hope that your actions (and Daddy's) this year either see you squeezed out of the club, or forced to take 'unders' like the majority of the Collingwood squad already has.


Actually, I'd prefer you to go to Carlton.

 

[S.Patrol.G]

I hear at Mad Monday the players were talking plenty of Baloney.

 

[Asgardian]

Josh Mahoney???????

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Caro in her Boak article writes that Port's interest in Moloney has waned following Primus's departure.

 

[Jonts]

Caro in her Boak article writes that Port's interest in Moloney has waned following Primus's departure.

Good.

 

[BIG DADDY]

Rather look for a younger version of Maloney to trade in
Maloney is 28 and will be 30+ by the time we hit finals
What about Jones from the Demons?

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Signed a three year deal about a month ago. Don't start FishingRick on NJ.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Koby Stevens would be a better target. Mates with butcher too apparently

 

[YoungsterPA]

I think butcher was trying to convince Stevens to come over

 

[RangaInTeal]

And Brad Ebert... Kobe Stevens would be a sensational get. On Brad Ebert/Brent Montgomery/Tim Evans/Foster Williams levels of sensational!

 

[cmpower]

http://www.neafl.com.au/index.php?i...]=1068&cHash=713f296770735969d0ac64bdd0e61789

What do you think about this guy? He is quite short but he is a former Maggie's player, and was an under 18 league beast and fairest. He could that guy we are looking to play in as a forward pocket.

 

[Hodges 153!]

Caro in her Boak article writes that Port's interest in Moloney has waned following Primus's departure.

Ben Perkins thoughts on us considering Maloney:-

never under any circumstances do you recruit a Melb player unless they are aboriginal. They are diseased with failure

Never one to leave you wondering what he thinks, is Benny!

 

[reCOGnise]

Benny is an animal!

 

[Hodges 153!]

Hehe, yep!

He's always good for an interesting chat, Ive had a few...

 

[FishingRick04]

Signed a three year deal about a month ago. Don't start FishingRick on NJ.

My spider senses could here NJ name lol

 

[Ford Fairlane]

http://www.neafl.com.au/index.php?id=16&tx_ttnews[year]=2012&tx_ttnews[month]=09&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=1068&cHash=713f296770735969d0ac64bdd0e61789

What do you think about this guy? He is quite short but he is a former Maggie's player, and was an under 18 league beast and fairest. He could that guy we are looking to play in as a forward pocket.

Harris was listed at 165cm and 67kg when he played for Port Magpies. He is a livewire but absolutely tiny by AFL standards. Turns 24 next year IIRC.

 

[S.Patrol.G]

Shane Harris started at WWT. Forward pocket and nothing else. Couldn't manage league footy here. No.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Dean Towers a mature ager at 22 from North Ballarat is attracting attention. Won the VFL's Rising Star Award. 189cm 83kg running half back.

A couple phantom drafts have him being picked up by Port in the second or third round.

 

[Gillian Batty]

LOL! Shane Harris is a ****wit. Shit footballer, shit bloke.

 

[King_Tredrea]

Gillian Batty is right about Shane Harris. Horrific individual.

 

[bringbackbucky]

Reckon we should be looking closely at the kids being squeezed out of GWS and GC due to their list reductions...

 

[YoungsterPA]

I really liked the look of Sam frost from gws I wish we went for him last year

 

[Wargreymon90]

I really liked the look of Sam frost from gws I wish we went for him last year

Frost would have been a much better option than blee

 

[PJ Power]

Blee's an interesting one. I think people have gone off him a bit too quickly. He looks to me like someone who will never be a big size, but will be a diligent defender with good poise. It was noticeable with the few possessions he had in his four matches, that he does use the ball well - the one exception being his kick for goal on the weekend.

I think Jonas has a position locked away in our back 6 for the start of next year. But there may also be room for Blee to play as the third tall back and allow Jonas to play on the trickier, cleverer forwards (see the jobs he did on Martin, Johnson and Rockliff).