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Ash_Tray_Bon said:
Trade 3
Port : Pick 13, Pick 29, Pick 36 & Richards
Collingwood : Houston & 39
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If the list managers are 100% confident that there's little difference between having 29 & 36, and another first rounder, then I'd be happy. However 29 and 36 shouldn't be enough. It needs to be a lower pick. In this scenario we also shouldn't be sending 39 their way, it'd be more like the 58 pick.
 
Addy23 said:
Very hesitant to go into next year without a F1. It could easily be a top 10 pick when shit hits the fan
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GC want picks for next year where our future first rounder will be traded for Luko, the argy nargy will be around the steak knives where hopefully, we get a second rounder (for this) year back.
 
Ash_Tray_Bon said:
Trade 1
Port : Luko & Pick 23
GC : Port FP1

Trade 2
Collingwood : Pick 13 & Pick 29
GC : Noble & Collingwood FP1

Trade 3
Port : Pick 13, Pick 29, Pick 36 & Richards
Collingwood : Houston & 39

Net result :
Port Gain : Pick 13, Pick 23, Pick 29, Pick 36, Luko, Richards
Port Lose : FP1, Pick 39, Houston

Just for fun : Pick 58 > Caleb Daniels
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Broken down, we hand Collingwood Houston for pick 13, pick 29 and Richards. That’s up there with the crap we accepted from Freo for Carr in 2004.
We do ok from the Luko deal but it’s still a no from me. Having said that, I suspect this is what will happen.
 
PJ Power said:
Broken down, we hand Collingwood Houston for pick 13, pick 29 and Richards. That’s up there with the crap we accepted from Freo for Carr in 2004.
We do ok from the Luko deal but it’s still a no from me. Having said that, I suspect this is what will happen.
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I’d like Collingwood to do the GC deal and we say no. Carlton or Collingwood, I’d like their first selection not pick 13, they can be behind us.
 

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Ash_Tray_Bon said:
Trade 1
Port : Luko & Pick 23
GC : Port FP1

Trade 2
Collingwood : Pick 13 & Pick 29
GC : Noble & Collingwood FP1

Trade 3
Port : Pick 13, Pick 29, Pick 36 & Richards
Collingwood : Houston & 39

Net result :
Port Gain : Pick 13, Pick 23, Pick 29, Pick 36, Luko, Richards
Port Lose : FP1, Pick 39, Houston

Just for fun : Pick 58 > Caleb Daniels
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Pick 13 for FP1 is a draw. So essentially you have us giving up a reigning dual AA contracted for three years without getting a single extra first rounder in return, and also going into next year without a first rounder. Wind the ****ing club up if we did anything approaching this deal.
 
Port: St K R3 (Pick 47)
St K: Soldo

Port: Luko & his contract
GCS: St K R3 (Pick 47) & his contract off their books

Melb: Geel R1 (Pick 17) & R2 (Pick 38)
Geel: Oliver & Melb R2 (Pick 28)

Port: Melb R1 (Pick 5) & Geel R1 (Pick 17)
Melb: Houston

Richards walks to the draft and Port pick him up with 39

Port Receive: Pick 5, 17, Luko & Richards
Port give: Pick 39, Houston & Soldo

This is my opinon and I dont think Luko is worth selling the farm for. He cant get a game under Dimma FFS. I get that he is going to be a required player if/when Marshall retires but Luko is missing piece 999.

Im probably overrating Oliver as well but Port need to get back into the draft for the time after Hinkley.
 
RussellEbertHandball said:
Just a reminder who we have stitched up long term. From the Contracts thread last updated 30 September 2024. So Charlie, McKenzie and McCallum were delisted and are off the list.

24 Jordon Sweet
25 Brandon Zerk-Thatcher
27 Esava Ratugolea
I also can't find how long deals were done from Port's website but Footy wire has it that
BZT signed for 2 years ends 2025, Ratugolea 5 years ends 2028, and Sweet 3 years ends 2026 so I have added them to these years even though not done in the contracts thread

2024
10 Travis Boak .............. he might say I retire, but i doubt it
31 Francis Evans ......... could still be cut
32 Tom Scully
40 Kyle Marshall
42 Quinton Narkle ......... could still be cut

2025
3 Ryan Burton .............. I'd put him up for trade
6 Kane Farrell
7 Jase Burgoyne
8 Josh Sinn
11 Jeremy Finlayson
14 Miles Bergman
17 Tom Clurey .............. could still be traded
26 Lachlan Charleson
29 Tom Anastasopoulos
34 Dylan Williams ........... could still be cut/traded
36 Will Lorenz
38 Dante Visentini
39 Hugh Jackson
41 Jed McEntee .............. I would cut/trade him but the club wont.
43 Logan Evans
Cat B Jacob Moss
Brandon Zerck-Thatcher

2026
9 Zak Butters
13 Ivan Soldo .............. could still be traded
15 Junior Rioli
16 Oliver Wines
21 Aliir Aliir
30 Ollie Lord
33 Darcy Byrne-Jones
34 Lachie Jones
44 Jackson Mead
45 Xavier Walsh
Jordan Sweet

2027
5 Dan Houston ............... could still be traded
19 Mitch Georgiades

2028
18 Jason Horne-Francis
28 Willem Drew]
Esava Ratugolea

2029
2 Sam Powell-Pepper
4 Todd Marshall ....................... Concussion issues leaves him vulnerable

2032
1 Connor Rozee

** unrestricted free agent
* restricted free agent
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Gawd, when was simple todd given that contract
 
I'm pretty sure it was the start of this year even after a few concussions.

I really hope there are a few clauses in there but I doubt it.

Could be the worst contract in the league.
 

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RossFC said:
Where are the trades at. I've got notifications on of AFL house's twitter and I'm getting nothing.

Cut all this crap down to a week.
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Didn’t Davies say it would be more likely next week?
 
just_kick_it said:
Port: St K R3 (Pick 47)
St K: Soldo

Port: Luko & his contract
GCS: St K R3 (Pick 47) & his contract off their books

Melb: Geel R1 (Pick 17) & R2 (Pick 38)
Geel: Oliver & Melb R2 (Pick 28)

Port: Melb R1 (Pick 5) & Geel R1 (Pick 17)
Melb: Houston

Richards walks to the draft and Port pick him up with 39

Port Receive: Pick 5, 17, Luko & Richards
Port give: Pick 39, Houston & Soldo

This is my opinon and I dont think Luko is worth selling the farm for. He cant get a game under Dimma FFS. I get that he is going to be a required player if/when Marshall retires but Luko is missing piece 999.

Im probably overrating Oliver as well but Port need to get back into the draft for the time after Hinkley.
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Lol.

Oliver and 28 for 17 and 38? Melbourne would laugh Geelong out of the building for that offer.

As would GC to us if we offered 47 for Lukosius.
 
longdonkey said:
Why is it that Gold Coast are prepared to bend over for Richmond and give up 6 for Rioli but want make up for it by bending us over for Luko when the Luko contract looks like a Bowes situation all over again.

Is it because Gold Coast are full of AFL appointments from Victoria?
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Bird in the hand?
One player is coming in to the Club where our's is leaving their club.
 

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Bevoman said:
The longer the better for us with Dan's trade
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If we're being serious, we let all clubs interested make their offers. We don't decide on any until the last hour of the trade. And then we pick North because they'll have the best offer and we tell Houston it's north or nothing. 4 years to go on the contract, we must stop playing nice and get the max value. It's his problem to deal with North if he doesn't want to go to a contending club. Port shouldn't be the ones taking unders from this
 
Dual All-Australian Dan Houston wants to play for Collingwood, according to The Age, with a potential three-way trade between them, Port Adelaide and Gold Coast on the cards.

The deal could involve up to four players with the Magpies’ Joe Richards keen to join the Power, his teammate John Noble wanting to get to Gold Coast, and the Suns’ Jack Lukosius looking to join Port Adelaide.

But as it stands Gold Coast has rejected the Pies’ offer of a future first-round pick and John Noble for selections 13 and 23, according to the report. The Pies’ plan was to make that deal, then send pick 13 and Richards in exchange for Houston, but the Power are said to be unlikely to accept that offer.

The Suns would prefer to deal with Collingwood over clubs like Carlton (who have offered future picks for pick 13, which they would on-trade for Houston) and North Melbourne (who have offered their future first-round pick) because of Noble’s request to head north.

But they also want Collingwood to have the assets to land Houston, because that would provide Port Adelaide with an additional first-round pick, so they could happily send out their future first-round pick for Lukosius.

However the report stated the AFL has told Port Adelaide it will not need special approval to trade its future first-round pick, as was believed to be the case due to the Power using just two first-round picks over the last four years. However in one of those years they traded for 2021 No.1 pick Jason Horne-Francis meaning he is effectively considered a used first-round pick.

While eventually these players may move to their preferred clubs in separate swaps, they are all intertwined and could end up moving in the same mega-deal.
 
Holden Hillbilly said:
Dual All-Australian Dan Houston wants to play for Collingwood, according to The Age, with a potential three-way trade between them, Port Adelaide and Gold Coast on the cards.

The deal could involve up to four players with the Magpies’ Joe Richards keen to join the Power, his teammate John Noble wanting to get to Gold Coast, and the Suns’ Jack Lukosius looking to join Port Adelaide.

But as it stands Gold Coast has rejected the Pies’ offer of a future first-round pick and John Noble for selections 13 and 23, according to the report. The Pies’ plan was to make that deal, then send pick 13 and Richards in exchange for Houston, but the Power are said to be unlikely to accept that offer.

The Suns would prefer to deal with Collingwood over clubs like Carlton (who have offered future picks for pick 13, which they would on-trade for Houston) and North Melbourne (who have offered their future first-round pick) because of Noble’s request to head north.

But they also want Collingwood to have the assets to land Houston, because that would provide Port Adelaide with an additional first-round pick, so they could happily send out their future first-round pick for Lukosius.

However the report stated the AFL has told Port Adelaide it will not need special approval to trade its future first-round pick, as was believed to be the case due to the Power using just two first-round picks over the last four years. However in one of those years they traded for 2021 No.1 pick Jason Horne-Francis meaning he is effectively considered a used first-round pick.

While eventually these players may move to their preferred clubs in separate swaps, they are all intertwined and could end up moving in the same mega-deal.
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Mega deal?

Mega Death (by a thousand cuts) more likely.

I just want an uncomplicated deal that deservedly maximises our return for Dan.
We can deal for Richo and Luko separably once we get some picks for the likes of Soldo, Clurey, Wiilliams, et al.
 

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