List Mgmt. List Management 2025-26

[rumoursofwinter]

SPP is a bit crap lets be real. His output is poo, but he does make people shit themselves so thats something. I reckon we use him poorly.

Getting players to shit themselves is underrated.

 

[MrChow]

SPP is a bit crap lets be real. His output is poo, but he does make people shit themselves so thats something. I reckon we use him poorly.

Yeah.. I reckon when the game sped up with rule changes, it felt like there was only room for 1 of Wines, Drew and SPP.

SPP has speed, so they put him forward, and he did ok… mostly because we had no one else.

Wines and Drew can only play in the middle.

I’d actually like to see SPP play more in the midfield.

 

[El_Scorcho]

This is contingent on Butters staying. If he leaves (which I think he will), it changes things dramatically.

I'd like to see us invest in youth but I also acknowledge that we basically set fire to the entirety of our list ranked about 20-30 so there's going to have to be at least a few more mature players brought in.

Yeah this is the thing. I don't think McGovern is a grrat fit but we need stopgap bodies and the likes of Finlayson and Burton had to go.

I also don't think Butters leaving matters much if the cultural reset is right. If one player is that crucial, we're not a legit flag threat anyway. Plenty of examples of clubs moving on an elite player then winning a flag.

 

[El_Scorcho]

From this post do you think McGovern is 26? He's gonna be 31 in a month.

He's also exactly the sort of unreliable player we should be steering 100 miles away from as part of the cultural reset. He's different than Burton in name only.

We need stopgap depth when we've delisted this many players. We don't have the resources to bring in stacks of quality depth, some of it is going to have to be highly speculative.

He's different to Burton purely in that it's a new environment for him.

For the record I'm not a fan but I understand the signing.

 

[Schulzenfest]

We need stopgap depth when we've delisted this many players. We don't have the resources to bring in stacks of quality depth, some of it is going to have to be highly speculative.

He's different to Burton purely in that it's a new environment for him.

For the record I'm not a fan but I understand the signing.

It's not about the talent level of the player. If we were signing a 30 year old Tom Logan or Paul Stewart, sure. Not a walk up start but at least you know they'd bring consistency and unconditional effort. McGovern brings none of those. He's exactly the type of flaky, lazy, inconsistent player that we're actively trying to move away from. We have less talented players on our list than him, but that's not the point.

If we want depth, go offer Kamdyn McIntosh a contract. McGovern is more talented than McIntosh, but we're not signing these guys to help win us the 2026 flag, we're signing them to be positive influences on our culture and our youth. McIntosh would be that. McGovern would not.

 

[Long live PAFC]

Not sure we can put SPP in our 23 going forward. Will be 29 at the start of 2027, off 2 knees and will have played 5-10 games since 2024.

Will he have the speed or agility anymore? Or the power? Can he chase and tackle still? Can’t question his work ethic but whether he’ll be up to it physically is another question.

 

[Young Gun #6]

Did people forget the first half of the season already?

SPP was our most impactful small forward and actually looked really good.

He was playing far better than any of Richards, DBJ, McEntee, Cochrane and arguably more impactful than Rioli was.

He was involved in so many of our good scoring plays and put more defensive pressure on than any of those players above.

Pretty much all of his metrics for 2025 are above average for his position.

Absolutely is still best 22 especially considering he was already coming back from injury and was immediately our best small forward.

 

[jakey]

Yeah better than a goal a game over his past few seasons while also getting people to shit themselves is basically as good as it gets for the role. Far better numbers than McCreery. But people have a hard on for Beau because Collingwood.

 

[TazD]

I wonder if we can SPP into a Maynard type defender

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Did people forget the first half of the season already?

SPP was our most impactful small forward and actually looked really good.

He was playing far better than any of Richards, DBJ, McEntee, Cochrane and arguably more impactful than Rioli was.

He was involved in so many of our good scoring plays and put more defensive pressure on than any of those players above.

Pretty much all of his metrics for 2025 are above average for his position.

Absolutely is still best 22 especially considering he was already coming back from injury and was immediately our best small forward.

Any updates on Cochranes foot? Are we expecting a full recovery?

 

[jakey]

I wonder if we can SPP into a Maynard type defender

Why would we do that, when he's now our only small forward who's any good?

 

[Peninsula Boy]

Powell-Pepper was a rung down the ladder of his previous form last year.

It usually takes a year or so to get the confidence back from an ACL so I was keenly watching his form because we needed him to get back to form and he seemed to be improving but then he did his other knee.

IIRC, it wasn't a massive tackle where the knee goes the other way or a high impact. IIRC I think he just tried to change direction so that is not good at all.

List Management has to prepare both ways with Sam.

 

[TeeKray]

SPP is not very good but he brings effort and intensity and probably has a positive cultural impact on the team. He's the type of player who would be your sub if you had a truly strong squad (he was our sub in the '21 finals when we had IMO our strongest squad of the Hinkley era).

 

[chiwigi]

Yeah.. I reckon when the game sped up with rule changes, it felt like there was only room for 1 of Wines, Drew and SPP.

SPP has speed, so they put him forward, and he did ok… mostly because we had no one else.

Wines and Drew can only play in the middle.

I’d actually like to see SPP play more in the midfield.

Put him in to soften up the meat a bit.

 

[wayb2912]

Did people forget the first half of the season already?

SPP was our most impactful small forward and actually looked really good.

He was playing far better than any of Richards, DBJ, McEntee, Cochrane and arguably more impactful than Rioli was.

He was involved in so many of our good scoring plays and put more defensive pressure on than any of those players above.

Pretty much all of his metrics for 2025 are above average for his position.

Absolutely is still best 22 especially considering he was already coming back from injury and was immediately our best small forward.

I thought SPP was poor as a forward this year looked better in the mid

 

[VineValerian]

Put him in to soften up the meat a bit.

Tenderising it

 

[PortAdelFC1997]

I thought SPP was poor as a forward this year looked better in the mid

SPP could be A LOT better if he had hair on his head.

 

[malcheski]

SPP compliments the side beautifully. He makes oppo players shit themselves, whilst our players piss themselves. Perfect balance.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

SPP compliments the side beautifully. He makes oppo players shit themselves, whilst our players piss themselves. Perfect balance.

Is that why Hawthorn struggle against us?

 

[crafty_bernardo]

Any updates on Cochranes foot? Are we expecting a full recovery?

Prosthetic leg surgery is this week

 

[Ropable]

Prosthetic leg surgery is this week

Then the funerals on Monday

 

[Willsy10]

The SPP's criticisms seem a bit harsh.

It's weird some people were raving about him in 2023 and were even calling for him to be captain, he does a knee early in 2024, comes back in 2025 and produces almost identical numbers to 2023, which is impressive considering most players coming back from ACL's can take a full 12 months to get going again.

And suddenly SPP is shit? Seems so harsh, i thought he did well this year all things considered, and it was a shame he has now done his other knee. He seems to have really turned a corner with his attitude though, so i suspect him to leave no stone unturned in coming back again next year well prepared. Father time has actually been good to him.

I guess everyone seems better when you are winning, which is why people on here think McCreery is better than SPP, when statistics suggest otherwise.

 

[Doctor Feel]

We need more cochrane feet pics

 

[Scodges]

Prosthetic leg surgery is this week

The guys asking a legit question and one I’m curious about too. If you don’t know, just don’t reply.

 

[Burningleviathan]

SPP's problem is his accuracy. He kicked 18.18 this year. 31.31 in 2023 as well. He has never improved in that area. Turn that into 18.18 into 26.10 and the conversation is different.
The 16 FF - 21 FA doesn't help either.

Say what you will about DBJ but he at least worked on his accuracy when he got put forward.