List Management | End of year discussion

[Furn2]

So we can add our academy players as long they don't get picked in either draft ?

Not quite the same as cherry picking top 2 picks with a bunch of 3rd rounders is it ?

 

[dickbobson]

Tweedie is indiginous, from the Next Generation Academy

Nash is the Irishman

But Glass is Irish as well isn't he?

 

[Hawker98]

This is going to be a big year for Liam shiels I feel


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[Since 2001]

This is going to be a big year for Liam shiels I feel


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It has to be now, more time in the mid-field and we need him to step up. Needs to be even louder on the field and really rally the boys.

 

[threesixpio]

This is going to be a big year for Liam shiels I feel


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Really liked his 2015. Serviceable/injured this year

 

[MrPremiership]

But Glass is Irish as well isn't he?

He is now a Cat A rookie

 

[arupist]

According to Foxsports, our FINAL list is 39 senior, 4 rookies and 2 catB (both the Irish lads).

No sign of Tweedle Dee.

Only Sydney(38+5+3), Brisbane (40+4+4)and West Coast(39+5+2) have more than 6 rookies.


http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl..._sportsmail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=crm

 

[streetspirit]

I'm not trusting the Fox list. They've got the work experience kid to aggregate the ins and outs.

 

[MrPremiership]

According to Foxsports, our FINAL list is 39 senior, 4 rookies and 2 catB (both the Irish lads).

No sign of Tweedle Dee.

Only Sydney(38+5+3), Brisbane (40+4+4)and West Coast(39+5+2) have more than 6 rookies.


http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl..._sportsmail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=crm

2pm today....final list lodgements by the Club

Fox would only be guessing at this stage

 

[Mitchell54]

2pm today....final list lodgements by the Club

Fox would only be guessing at this stage

AFL will have an article out at 2:01pm to confirm

 

[arupist]

I'm not trusting the Fox list. They've got the work experience kid to aggregate the ins and outs.

Such a cynic.

 

[dermott]

If we were going to add one or more Cat B rookies it is surprising that it would not be publicised prior to final list lodgement.
My money is on it not happening.

 

[MrPremiership]

If we were going to add one or more Cat B rookies it is surprising that it would not be publicised prior to final list lodgement.
My money is on it not happening.

think it was publicized that we nominated Tweedie

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...m/news-story/a7fa43ea5e5cf2561e9af3a0cdb05114

 

[arupist]

think it was publicized that we nominated Tweedie

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...m/news-story/a7fa43ea5e5cf2561e9af3a0cdb05114

Behind paywall. Is there any actual commitment in the article?

 

[streetspirit]

Looking into it further, does look like we would have needed to lodge the paperwork on Monday to have secured any of the Cat B players, including Tweedie, overlooked in the drafts - AFL's article states the paperwork should be lodged ' immediately' after the drafts. This is how Port got the Ugandan guy Irra.

The club will need to lodge relevant paperwork immediately after the rookie draft on November 28 to secure the multicultural or indigenous talent.

If the relevant club does not choose to take the player as a category B rookie, or if they are an AFL nomination and are not selected in the rookie or national drafts, then any club can list the player as a category B pick.

However, the player has to give his consent before it is confirmed in that case.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-05/tigers-eyeing-off-kayle-kirby-as-a-category-b-rookie

EDIT: Though the 'immediately' might just mean if you're the club nominating to give time to the other clubs to pick them up if you overlook them post draft.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Behind paywall. Is there any actual commitment in the article?

HAWTHORN has special access to an indigenous forward with an “abundance of talent” — but could be forced to secure him with a draft pick.

If creative forward Tristan Tweedie is overlooked at the national and rookie drafts, the Hawks can sign him as a Category B rookie through their next generation talent academy.

But a couple of clubs are also considering Tweedie, who slotted six goals in Round 1 of the TAC Cup.

The Hawks enter next Friday’s national draft at No.81 — the selection received for Brownlow Medallist Sam Mitchell.

If Hawks recruiters want Tweedie, they must decide whether to draft him or roll the dice and hope he slips through as a ‘free hit’.

Hawthorn is also believed to be considering Brisbane academy prospect Jacob Allison, on the slim chance he is still available and the Lions do not match.

Allison boasts a booming kick and won All-Australian honours in 2015, but tumbled down the rankings this season.

No.81 will be bumped up live on draft night as clubs begin to pass and selections are cashed in to pay for academy and father-son prospects.

Hawthorn did not nominate 175cm father-son prospect Ben Jarman due to its low draft hand, but could still snare him.

“We will still consider Ben like every other player when we have our selections in the national and rookie drafts,” Hawks list chief Graham Wright said last month.

The Hawks provided medical assistance for Tweedie this year as he recovered from a stress fracture in his foot.

Eastern Ranges talent manager Len Villani urged a club to take the Healesville boy.

“He’s a pretty special talent. I can see him playing as a classic third forward, pushing up to the wing and taking marks,” Villani said.

“He’s not quite as dynamic as him, but he plays a little bit like (Adelaide’s) Charlie Cameron.

“He’s elusive, has clean hands and is a text book set-shot for goal.”

Tweedie suffered a stress fracture in his leg in 2015 and has played just four TAC Cup games in two years.

If Tweedie is not selected, he will be invited back to the Ranges to play as a 19-year-old next season.

“If nobody drafts him or rookies him, he would be a free hit for Hawthorn,” Villani said.

“He’s got an abundance of talent — a beautifully natural footballer.

“In terms of risk versus reward, I think it’s a low risk and the reward could be very, very exciting.”

St Kevin’s Oliver Hanrahan is also shaping as a smoky selection, despite only playing school football.

Fremantle, Geelong and Melbourne are all expected to consider the half-forward late in the draft, while Western Bulldogs and St Kilda first showed interest mid-season.

One scout on Friday said Hanrahan was “excellent around goals and a Taylor Duryea-type long term”.

While his omission from the TAC Cup is a concern for some, St Kevin’s director of sport Luke Travers believes it could be a positive.

“I think his advantage will be that because he hasn’t come through the system, he’ll be easier to coach and to mould,” Travers said.

“Most clubs get to the end and pass on picks. Why pass? He might be the diamond you find in all the coal you dig out.”

Hanrahan’s stocks swelled with an impressive game at Geelong Grammar and kicked four goals in an APS representative match.​

It says we can put him on the Cat B list - however it doesn't indicate that we are committed to.

 

[HawksILove]

Are we getting Tristan Tweedie or not?

 

[MrPremiership]

Are we getting Tristan Tweedie or not?

yes

 

[HawksILove]

yes

Great thanks

 

[Ned Ryerson]

yes

Sauce?

 

[dermott]

Are we getting Tristan Tweedie or not?

We will know when the club announces its final list.

 

[dickbobson]

We will know when the club announces its final list.

When is that?

 

[dermott]

When is that?

It had to be submitted to the AFL by 2pm today. However neither Hawks nor AFL website has published final lists. Just noticed Essendon has announced a Cat B rookie but nothing on the Hawks. If we are signing Tweedie or someone we are really flying under the radar or our media staff has taken leave.

 

[dickbobson]

I still can;t understand how we can list Glass and Nash as cat B rookies when they are both Irish and according to posters who claim to know the rules clubs are only allowed one. Is this a mistake that may have to be rectified when big brother looks at it?

 

[OzJohnnie]

I still can;t understand how we can list Glass and Nash as cat B rookies when they are both Irish and according to posters who claim to know the rules clubs are only allowed one. Is this a mistake that may have to be rectified when big brother looks at it?

Linky? I haven't seen the final list yet.