List Mgmt. List management for 2016

[Lightning_Rod]

Should be a rookie pick up at most, isnt that much chop

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[Chrizzt]

I don't rate Jarman at all.

I can see him doing alright in the right circumstances. Definitely don't want/need him at Port, but not a bad F/S to pick up with a late 3rd or 4th rounder.

 

[DaTBird187]

Crows so excited for a father/son, they draft him with Pick 13, not fully understanding the rules.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Ignoring Essendon who were always going to make a shit load of changes, the majority of the other 17 clubs have made at least 10 changes to their list including cutting rookies, as at 1st list lodgement at 2pm EST today cut off time.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-31/retirements-delistings-and-trade-every-change-at-your-club
10+ - 9 clubs
9 - Sydney
8 - West Coast, Melbourne, St Kilda
7 - Port, Western Bulldogs, Adelaide, Richmond

 

[Portology]

I look forward to not being able to trade Jonas next year

I think there's a bit of "everyone else in the backline is out of contract next year" about Jonas' contract.

Two years would not have been a surprise, so that not everyone was out of contract at once; three years is a surprise, but if his contract is a little front end loaded as I suspect it is, it won't be much of an obstacle for trading if required but it still gives us some control over the situation.


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[Zakk Wylde]

I don't rate Jarman at all.

Very smart, and a very good user of the footy.

You'd expect that with his genes.

 

[Chrizzt]

Very smart, and a very good user of the footy.

You'd expect that with his genes.

While it goes without saying, you're probably safest to clarify that only the latter is something you'd associate with his genes.

 

[longdonkey]

Very smart, and a very good user of the footy.

You'd expect that with his genes.

Has good touch as well - he'll end up a very good player.

 

[raptalia]

I've seen Clurey criticised plenty of times on here. I've also seen people say that Trengove shouldn't play back anymore. Ken might even use him forward.

With Stewart and O'Shea delisted and Carlile retired, that leaves us with Hombsch and the very green Austin as the talls back there.

Jonas could be important for us this year.

How tall do you think Jonas is ? Tom Clurey has played only 18 games so the jury should still be out but I take your point, with O'Shea and Stewart delisted Jonas advances in the pecking order.

 

[Steve Dore]

Yeah, that is exactly what I am suggesting.

Well that is the only way TJ's contract length is going to hinder an Austin or Clurey developing.

Both players are developing nicely with TJ on our list.

 

[bcswift]

"Slave wages" lol.

Perhaps not the best phrase but it just shows you how much AFL players earn. The average AFL player salary is now well over $300,000. As a rookie, Krak's base salary was about $55,000. The average full-time wage in Australia is $74,724 before tax according to the ABS. No doubt Krak's upgrade to the main list is a one year contract and he'll be gone if he doesn't perform. A small reward and and he can still be cut, unlike many others on the list. Fair enough.

 

[Far Kern]

So harsh on Jonas. He was back in good form before the brain fade.

 

[Magus]

How tall do you think Jonas is ? Tom Clurey has played only 18 games so the jury should still be out but I take your point, with O'Shea and Stewart delisted Jonas advances in the pecking order.

I'm aware of the fact that he isn't that tall but he plays tall more often than not and is more of a lock down defender than the other guys of a similar height.

 

[longdonkey]

How tall do you think Jonas is ? Tom Clurey has played only 18 games so the jury should still be out but I take your point, with O'Shea and Stewart delisted Jonas advances in the pecking order.

Jonas was and is above O'Shea, Stewart and Clurey in the pecking order.

It's only some flogs on here that talk about him as delisting fodder, hence the reason he has a 3 year contract and will be a career Port player.

Jonas is what he is, and that's a medium lock down defender who has the versatility to play on some talls and is in the team to perform a specific role.

He won't average 20 touches per game and neither should he, but if he beats the 3rd forward and keeps that player quiet and we win, he can walk off the ground with 5 touches as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Chachi]

Jonas was and is above O'Shea, Stewart and Clurey in the pecking order.

It's only some flogs on here that talk about him as delisting fodder, hence the reason he has a 3 year contract and will be a career Port player.

Jonas is what he is, and that's a medium lock down defender who has the versatility to play on some talls and is in the team to perform a specific role.

He won't average 20 touches per game and neither should he, but if he beats the 3rd forward and keeps that player quiet and we win, he can walk off the ground with 5 touches as far as I'm concerned.

Liking this wasn't enough to say how much I agree. Genuine toughness, good decision by the club.

 

[mightypowerrrr]

How tall do you think Jonas is ? Tom Clurey has played only 18 games so the jury should still be out but I take your point, with O'Shea and Stewart delisted Jonas advances in the pecking order.

Can Clurey play on talls and smalls like Jonas though?
Think that then we can play 3 tall backs plus Jonas. This would mean we won't get as much rebound as we did with 3 talls and 3 flankers at the end of this year

 

[longdonkey]

Liking this wasn't enough to say how much I agree. Genuine toughness, good decision by the club.

Personally I think we made a huge mistake with the Jonas on Gaff report saying that we would cop any penalty handed by the tribunal. It gave them an open invitation to give him harsh suspension. If we had the radio cheer squad behind us it would have been "it was a mistimed spoil 1 game that's a joke"

 

[Nemisis]

Should get a five year deal with those highlights - love the Krak.

 

[longdonkey]

Can Clurey play on talls and smalls like Jonas though?
Think that then we can play 3 tall backs plus Jonas. This would mean we won't get as much rebound as we did with 3 talls and 3 flankers at the end of this year

Depends if we are playing a plus one and how we line up to their forwards. In my opinion we play Clurey or Jonas unless we are playing a plus 1 in defence then we could play both if the opposition line up tall in the forward line. We don't play the plus one in defence as much now I don't think, so may not see them in the same team too often. Might be talking shit there but that's the way I see it.

 

[FallingLiefs]

Can someone post top 10 b+f count at round 8, I swear Jonas was top 8.

 

[Powerstufff]

Jonas must be the goodest bloke to ever be a good bloke.

Nah, never slammed anyone's head into the woodwork. Mind you if anyone in our team is going to do that it will be him.

 

[simmo_bc]

Don't get the TJ hate from some people.. Disposal efficiency of +80% this year, starting 18 player for the PAFC

 

[longdonkey]

It will interesting to see this year whether we go back to playing plus one in defense rather than plus one at the contest now that our ruck might get the ball going in our direction more.

 

[NEGAN]

I am not too fussed about the contract myself.

But I wouldn't call majority of people a TJ hater for hating the contract length.

 

[PepeSilvia]

Can someone post top 10 b+f count at round 8, I swear Jonas was top 8.

To the end of Round 9, TJ's last game for the year.

1 - Pittard (93)
=2 - R. Gray (68)
.......Young (68)
4 - Ebert (67)
5 - Wines (66)
6 - Broadbent (64)
7 - Dixon (63)
8 - Jonas (62)
9 - Westhoff (54)
10 - Trengove (52)

On an unrelated note, I find it funny that DBJ was top 10 in the B&F for both the Magpies and the Power after Round 5.