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[Cromulant]

If you’re on X worth following

Always found him pretty good here as well.

 

[Mutineer]

I'm sure Jarryd Lyons had 30 disposal games just not with us.
Same with Laird in the midfield before his more recent move back to defence.

 

[Velvet George]

I'm sure Jarryd Lyons had 30 disposal games just not with us.
Same with Laird in the midfield before his more recent move back to defence.

Clutching, surely even you can concede that Hamish has stuffed up by not focusing on mids

 

[Mutineer]

Jake Soligo was the Showdown medalist last year with a 30+ disposals game.

 

[Cromulant]

Clutching, surely even you can concede that Hamish has stuffed up by not focusing on mids

The Anti-North ??

TBH we have drafted them, they've just been average at best. Clearly theres been a shift post-COVID, we're now at a stage where we have midfielders..... we either choose not to play them unless we have to, or play them somewhere else.

 

[Velvet George]

Jake Soligo was the Showdown medalist last year with a 30+ disposals game.

And? He said this year

 

[Mutineer]

And? He said this year

Plenty of time in 2026 left yet and Jake looked to have his mojo back on the weekend in the Snaffle after health issues early in the season/preseason.

 

[Velvet George]

Plenty of time in 2026 left yet and Jake looked to have his mojo back on the weekend in the Snaffle after health issues early in the season/preseason.

The sentiment, the analysis and the results including 2025 finals debacle, indicate the talent we have in our midfield isn’t good enough to make us a premiership contender. Do you disagree?

And Soligo achieved 30 once last year and 2 the year before, not sure he’s the poster boy you think he is.

 

[Velvet George]

Mutineer I see you’ve declined to provide your opinion again, so I’ll ask again, do you think Hamish and Justin have recruited us a premiership quality midfield?

Now I appreciate having to give an answer might cause you some distress given what the likely answer will be, but surely you’re capable of giving one.

 

[Daniel6]

Mutineer I see you’ve declined to provide your opinion again, so I’ll ask again, do you think Hamish and Justin have recruited us a premiership quality midfield?

Now I appreciate having to give an answer might cause you some distress given what the likely answer will be, but surely you’re capable of giving one.

I believe their are 3 key areas to winning a premiership

Recruitment, game plan, and player development.

If you use last year as a guide, player recruitment was very good. Dawson, Soligo, Rachele, Rankine, Curtin, Berry, Draper and Ah Chee are good enough to become an elite level midfield.

Game plan: if we had a coach who has the capacity to stick to one game plan and consistently develop that would give us a good chance at winning game. Then we can worry about finals and grand finals. Right now, we don’t even look like making the top 8.

Player development: same as game plan, we need a coach who isn’t afraid to make the hard call and give young players ago and let them develop, instead of playing multiple roles in the SANFL and chop and change where they play every week.

We have elite level player with skills and attributes to develop into a high level team. We just don’t have a coach or coaching panel who have to ability, competency or patience to stick with one idea.

New coach gives us that chance to become an elite team again. Nicks isn’t it.

 

[Mutineer]

Did Matt Rendell ever draft a Premiership winning midfield at the Crows in his time with us?
You do realise Hamish also had a fair bit of input into us drafting Dangerfield which is there for everyone to see on the public record.
Both Rendell and Ogilvie joined the Crows in 2007, Hamish was actually Rendell's first appointment when he took over the Head recruiter role at the club replacing James Fantasia.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

I believe their are 3 key areas to winning a premiership

Recruitment, game plan, and player development.

If you use last year as a guide, player recruitment was very good. Dawson, Soligo, Rachele, Rankine, Curtin, Berry, Draper and Ah Chee are good enough to become an elite level midfield.

Game plan: if we had a coach who has the capacity to stick to one game plan and consistently develop that would give us a good chance at winning game. Then we can worry about finals and grand finals. Right now, we don’t even look like making the top 8.

Player development: same as game plan, we need a coach who isn’t afraid to make the hard call and give young players ago and let them develop, instead of playing multiple roles in the SANFL and chop and change where they play every week.

We have elite level player with skills and attributes to develop into a high level team. We just don’t have a coach or coaching panel who have to ability, competency or patience to stick with one idea.

New coach gives us that chance to become an elite team again. Nicks isn’t it.

The continual reappointing of Nicks fits the AFC definition of insanity

"Insanity Is Doing the Same Thing Over and Over Again and Expecting Different Results"

 

[Redline]

If you use last year as a guide, player recruitment was very good. Dawson, Soligo, Rachele, Rankine, Curtin, Berry, Draper and Ah Chee are good enough to become an elite level midfield.

Rachele and Rankine get listed in the midfield group when people reel of names but then also list them as adding creativity into our forwards line.

Of course they can be both to a degree and there are always rotations but to be a genuine contender we need that quality up forward and in Dawson's case we need him down back. It leaves the midfield with Curtin, Draper, Berry, and Soligo.

 

[Daniel6]

Rachele and Rankine get listed in the midfield group when people reel of names but then also list them as adding creativity into our forwards line.

Of course they can be both to a degree but to be a genuine contender we need that quality up forward and in Dawson's case we need him down back. It leaves the midfield with Curtin, Draper, Berry, and Soligo.

We either add elite players up forward and in defence or the midfield .

Just my opinion but I’d totally leave the back 6 alone. That’s set and are playing great footy.

Midfield still stink, but I’d have Dawson, Rankine, Rachele and Berry (run with option) as my starting 4 with Peatling and Curtin as my 2 wings. Then Soligo, Pedlar and ANB getting midfield opportunities. This is still a work in progress.

Then the forwards work together with the midfield. If the midfield is on top, the forward line functions with ease. Filthy, Fog and Tex are the ideal 3 talls with ANB, Keays, Pedlar as the smalls.

But midfield and forward must work with each other and create cohesion to apply pressure and lock the ball in.

 

[Velvet George]

Did Matt Rendell ever draft a Premiership winning midfield at the Crows in his time with us?
You do realise Hamish also had a fair bit of input into us drafting Dangerfield which is there for everyone to see on the public record.
Both Rendell and Ogilvie joined the Crows in 2007, Hamish was actually Rendell's first appointment when he took over the Head recruiter role at the club replacing James Fantasia.

So is that a yes or no? Sounds like a lot of deflection and you do realise how long ago Danger was? The fact you’ve even had to mention him says it all. Seriously clutching.

Oh and was Rendell in charge of a rebuild with multiple top picks?

 

[GreyCrow]

Just my opinion but I’d totally leave the back 6 alone. That’s set and are playing great footy.

Yep

Midfield still stink, but I’d have Dawson, Rankine, Rachele and Berry (run with option) as my starting 4 with Peatling and Curtin as my 2 wings. Then Soligo, Pedlar and ANB getting midfield opportunities. This is still a work in progress.

Take out Berry - put him in the opportunities list. I wouldnt have Pedlar anywhere near a midfield while we have Draper and Edwards in the mix

Find out early who isnt working , Berry Pedlar and develop young draftees

I think know we spend too much time waiting for the almost players

 

[Velvet George]

I believe their are 3 key areas to winning a premiership

Recruitment, game plan, and player development.

If you use last year as a guide, player recruitment was very good. Dawson, Soligo, Rachele, Rankine, Curtin, Berry, Draper and Ah Chee are good enough to become an elite level midfield.

Game plan: if we had a coach who has the capacity to stick to one game plan and consistently develop that would give us a good chance at winning game. Then we can worry about finals and grand finals. Right now, we don’t even look like making the top 8.

Player development: same as game plan, we need a coach who isn’t afraid to make the hard call and give young players ago and let them develop, instead of playing multiple roles in the SANFL and chop and change where they play every week.

We have elite level player with skills and attributes to develop into a high level team. We just don’t have a coach or coaching panel who have to ability, competency or patience to stick with one idea.

New coach gives us that chance to become an elite team again. Nicks isn’t it.

Game plan and development suck, but the issue with the list you’ve provided is there’s a lot of could have be a great midfield and players who weren’t drafted as pure mids. I wouldn’t be including Berry in that lot nor Ah Chee, he’s not a mid.

 

[Slim258]

Yep

Take out Berry - put him in the opportunities list. I wouldnt have Pedlar anywhere near a midfield while we have Draper and Edwards in the mix

Find out early who isnt working , Berry Pedlar and develop young draftees

I think know we spend too much time waiting for the almost players

We run a midfield of any combination of this firing at 100% and its not far off being pretty legit.

Curtin - Inside
Dawson - Outside
Rachele - Outside
Peatling - Inside
Berry - Inside / Outside
Soligo - Outside
Rankine - Outside
Edwards - Inside / Outside
Draper - Outside

All can rotate through and all bar maybe Berry and Edwards can play multiple positions really, so you can manipulate it to be offensive, defensive, fast, strong, tall ect

 

[Daniel6]

Yep

Take out Berry - put him in the opportunities list. I wouldnt have Pedlar anywhere near a midfield while we have Draper and Edwards in the mix

Find out early who isnt working , Berry Pedlar and develop young draftees

I think know we spend too much time waiting for the almost players

Yeah, that makes sense. Only reason Berry was in the starting midfield was as a run with (cooler) player if we need that position filed, but ideally Draper goes into the midfield rotation

 

[Daniel6]

Game plan and development suck, but the issue with the list you’ve provided is there’s a lot of could have be a great midfield and players who weren’t drafted as pure mids. I wouldn’t be including Berry in that lot nor Ah Chee, he’s not a mid.

I’m not concerned where they are or play in junior football, if they have the attributes to play as a midfielder, a good coach can turn the player into a quality midfielder.

 

[Mutineer]

Yeah, that makes sense. Only reason Berry was in the starting midfield was as a run with (cooler) player if we need that position filed, but ideally Draper goes into the midfield rotation

Hugh Bond was a midfielder for the GWV Rebels for his 2 seasons in the Victorian U18's competition and only ever played the 4 games as a small/medium defender for Vic Country at the Nationals. Why he hasn't been given a "cooler" role in the midfield when an oppo player is well and truly off the chain amazes me. i.e. Lachie Neale on the weekend.

Why not give him a tagging role on one of JHF or Butters this week, he has elite endurance to run with either all day and he is definitely not a plodder speed wise that someone referred to him as on here today. Hugh has all the tools to be a very good "cooler".

Taken from Rookie Me's draft profile.

SNAPSHOT: “A ferociously competitive ball winner who runs hard and makes his presence felt going both ways.”

There are few harder and more physical competitors among this year’s crop of midfielders than Hugh Bond, a talented multi-sport athlete out of the Greater Western Victoria Rebels region.

A rower at the national level, Bond has put his focus into footy of late, and overcame seperate injuries both last year and in preseason to produce a solid top-age campaign. He turned out 12 times for the Rebels this season, earning Vic Country selection and stepping up in big games.

Bond’s move to defence while donning representative colours only boosted his stocks, with the on-baller’s desire to hunt both the opposition and ball translating well to his role behind the ball. With his strong physique and running capacity, there is plenty to like.

 

[Daniel6]

Hugh Bond was a midfielder for the GWV Rebels for his 2 seasons in the Victorian U18's competition and only ever played the 4 games as a small/medium defender for Vic Country at the Nationals. Why he hasn't been given a "cooler" role in the midfield when an oppo player is well and truly off the chain amazes me. i.e. Lachie Neale on the weekend.

Why not give him a tagging role on one of JHF or Butters this week, he has elite endurance to run with either all day and he is definitely not a plodder speed wise that someone referred to him as on here today. Hugh has all the tools to be a very good "cooler".

Taken from Rookie Me's draft profile.

SNAPSHOT: “A ferociously competitive ball winner who runs hard and makes his presence felt going both ways.”

There are few harder and more physical competitors among this year’s crop of midfielders than Hugh Bond, a talented multi-sport athlete out of the Greater Western Victoria Rebels region.

A rower at the national level, Bond has put his focus into footy of late, and overcame seperate injuries both last year and in preseason to produce a solid top-age campaign. He turned out 12 times for the Rebels this season, earning Vic Country selection and stepping up in big games.

Bond’s move to defence while donning representative colours only boosted his stocks, with the on-baller’s desire to hunt both the opposition and ball translating well to his role behind the ball. With his strong physique and running capacity, there is plenty to like.

I don’t know, maybe it’s because Nicks has rocks for brains.

Nicks is stubborn and inflexible with his player positioning and he refused to make positional changes unless you have played that role during an entire preseason.

 

[Cromulant]

Its a bit like drafting Lachie Murphy in a similar small defender role to Rory Laird

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Rory Laird

Age

32

Ht

178cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.4

5star

K

12.9

5star

HB

12.5

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.3

4star

MG

367.5

5star

D

19.6

5star

K

10.9

4star

HB

8.7

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

MG

255.3

4star

D

14.6

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

3.2

4star

T

4.0

5star

and never bothering to try it at AFL level, instead using him in the defensive forward role and keeping him there despite not being very good at it.

 

[cleanhands]

Hugh Bond was a midfielder for the GWV Rebels for his 2 seasons in the Victorian U18's competition and only ever played the 4 games as a small/medium defender for Vic Country at the Nationals. Why he hasn't been given a "cooler" role in the midfield when an oppo player is well and truly off the chain amazes me. i.e. Lachie Neale on the weekend.

Why not give him a tagging role on one of JHF or Butters this week, he has elite endurance to run with either all day and he is definitely not a plodder speed wise that someone referred to him as on here today. Hugh has all the tools to be a very good "cooler".

Taken from Rookie Me's draft profile.

SNAPSHOT: “A ferociously competitive ball winner who runs hard and makes his presence felt going both ways.”

There are few harder and more physical competitors among this year’s crop of midfielders than Hugh Bond, a talented multi-sport athlete out of the Greater Western Victoria Rebels region.

A rower at the national level, Bond has put his focus into footy of late, and overcame seperate injuries both last year and in preseason to produce a solid top-age campaign. He turned out 12 times for the Rebels this season, earning Vic Country selection and stepping up in big games.

Bond’s move to defence while donning representative colours only boosted his stocks, with the on-baller’s desire to hunt both the opposition and ball translating well to his role behind the ball. With his strong physique and running capacity, there is plenty to like.

Seriously sound like someone you would a least look at, and when you look at his competitiveness it would be something I’d try

 

[Mostyn]

I don’t know, maybe it’s because Nicks has rocks for brains.

Nicks is stubborn and inflexible with his player positioning and he refused to make positional changes unless you have played that role during an entire preseason.

Maybe. Not that many clubs are running with a tagger - though it seems to be getting more common. I guess even fewer are running with taggers who dont have the talent to be a midfielder themselves, which is I suppose why we've tried to use players like Peatling.

I don't hate the idea of Bond as a tagger, though I dont really rate him as a footballer.' I think he makes too many errors. I wouldnt necessarily have him on our list after this year.