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[Slim258]

whilst Port accumulate the capital than come to us,

The capital they need to spend on Cochrane, Pilot, Salopek and Rodan?

 

[119others]

I think Justin Reid and I would now be on the same page. Great that we had a go, but we now know the reality. He’d rather stay at Saints for 2 years whilst Port accumulate the capital than come to us, even though we were headed for top 4.

serious question with these definitive statements - do you you have inside knowledge here?

 

[1970crow]

The capital they need to spend on Cochrane, Pilot, Salopek and Rodan?

It turns out that the changes to NGA/FS are going to make it much harder, but they had SFA to offer up last year, we had 3 firsts and he chose to remain at Saints for 2 years. You can refuse to see the bleedingly obvious, I don’t care, but he won’t ever be a Crows player.

 

[1970crow]

serious question with these definitive statements - do you you have inside knowledge here?

You bolded the bit that is undeniable fact. Regardless of what was put in front of him and draft picks that were suggested to be on the table, he absolutely chose to stay at Saints for 2 years. I mean, that’s surely about as definitive as it can get.

 

[Cromulant]

If we think we’re a high end mid short of genuinely contending over the next 2 years and we think he’ll remain a high end mid over the next 2 years, then he’s exactly type we should be looking at. No draft collateral, so we get to contend without sacrificing future talent.

The no draft collateral is absolutely appealing I will admit.

 

[1970crow]

The no draft collateral is absolutely appealing I will admit.

And what’s $800k/year for 2 years? Nuffin.

 

[Cromulant]

It turns out that the changes to NGA/FS are going to make it much harder, but they had SFA to offer up last year, we had 3 firsts and he chose to remain at Saints for 2 years. You can refuse to see the bleedingly obvious, I don’t care, but he won’t ever be a Crows player.

I suspect he stays a Saints player TBH

 

[Slim258]

It turns out that the changes to NGA/FS are going to make it much harder, but they had SFA to offer up last year, we had 3 firsts and he chose to remain at Saints for 2 years. You can refuse to see the bleedingly obvious, I don’t care, but he won’t ever be a Crows player.

Why sign for 2 years in 2025 and not 10?
Tasmania capital my friend, playing the long game, it's smart business. His 2mill will likely get to 2.3-2.5 in 2027 when he is out of contract.

Regardless if he is a Crow or not, even less chance of being at Port.

 

[119others]

The no draft collateral is absolutely appealing I will admit.

i would just question why neale would even consider the crows. surely its either a wa club or stay at lions. moving to adelaide, 2,607km away from perth, seems like the 4th most likely option AT BEST for neale.

doesnt mean we shouldnt ask the question but effectively little chance of occurring in reality with his situation imo.

 

[Cromulant]

Why sign for 2 years in 2025 and not 10?
Tasmania capital my friend, playing the long game, it's smart business. His 2mill will likely get to 2.3-2.5 in 2027 when he is out of contract.

Regardless if he is a Crow or not, even less chance of being at Port.

Its a smart play.

Increase the value and see how the Saints progress. If they dont then he'll have 18 other clubs come for him.

 

[Viva la Mattner]

Where possible it would be best to keep this years 1st rounder and grab either Herbert (ruck) or Kodah Edwards (ball magnet mid) the draft will be a mess next few years

Grabbing Neale for free makes sense if we can convince him

Adding Bailey and him as FA and then taking an elite SA kid in the draft would be a great net result




The fact Lachie McAndrew has come on leaps and bounds means I am certain we scrap the salary cap dump idea of Darcy.
Ethan Herbert can develop and worse case we have a CHB or CHF


2027 is chips in NWM

 

[FR0GGY]

serious question with these definitive statements - do you you have inside knowledge here?

He literally signed at the saints for 2 years?

 

[Viva la Mattner]

Only a small snippet of goss I have been told this week, nothing that prob isnt common knowledge

re: Zac Bailey

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Zac Bailey

Age

26

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181cm

Wt

84kg

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0.9

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12.9

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7.3

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5.6

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13.4

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3.2

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2.8

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0.6

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Impression was he would be staying , we put an offer in not realising that Brisbane have gone full Jake Lever

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Jake Lever

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30

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194cm

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94kg

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14.6

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242.0

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9.6

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145.4

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16.0

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11.0

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6.6

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1.6

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189.8

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and low balled him and said thats our offer take it or leave it.

So we have Bradbury'd our way to the front of the queue


Sean Darcy

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Sean Darcy

Age

27

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203cm

Wt

111kg

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Ruck

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10.1

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3.4

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32.0

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salary dump is pretty much scrapped


Oh and Collingwood are sniffing around Sam Berry, but he likely stays

 

[119others]

It turns out that the changes to NGA/FS are going to make it much harder, but they had SFA to offer up last year, we had 3 firsts and he chose to remain at Saints for 2 years. You can refuse to see the bleedingly obvious, I don’t care, but he won’t ever be a Crows player.

reid thought some of the key issues re his decision would involve:

• quiet introverted kid not naturally loving melbourne life
• family oriented with a very strong natural pull back to sa

therefore deciding to come back to sa at some point is a likely outcome. last year was very close hence the drawn out process and his ultimate decision.

re decision on power vs crows:

• the media is materially over-stating his wish to play with family/close friends
• nas is his own independent man
• future PROJECTED SUCCESS was important to him. assuming saints AND power both miss finals this year and next, we are very likely a clear #1 choice in this regard
• $, like virtually all players, is important and we were a clear 3rd in our offer to nas

now most likely scenario for ANY player contracted until 6 years into career is they likely get to a FA (as a minimum ) with their existing club. same as curtin for us.

if you want to tell yourself we will never have any chance then thats fine but its different to what people that actually matter(ed) within the club believed

 

[Cromulant]

Only a small snippet of goss I have been told this week, nothing that prob isnt common knowledge

re: Zac Bailey


Impression was he would be staying , we put an offer in not realising that Brisbane have gone full Jake Lever and low balled him and said thats our offer take it or leave it.

So we have Bradbury'd our way to the front of the queue


Sean Darcy salary dump is pretty much scrapped


Oh and Collingwood are sniffing around Sam Berry, but he likely stays

Berry is an interesting one if we can land Bailey. Assuming Rankine and Rachele continue to improve, and we get Curtin and Draper rolling then he does become a 5th or 6th banana.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Not sure why we'd bother TBH

I know why - he’d be free of draft capital, plus we need a mid that can hunt the ball properly

 

[Crow till I die]

What do you think - two firsts and Soligo?

2 firsts and O'brien..i'd do it as thats 1 first for Merrett and a first for someone silly enough to take O'brien as a salary dump...

 

[Mutineer]

I think Justin Reid and I would now be on the same page. Great that we had a go, but we now know the reality. He’d rather stay at Saints for 2 years whilst Port accumulate the capital than come to us, even though we were headed for top 4.

How does Port accumulate the collateral though, with what look to be at least 4 top end talented draftees available possibly more in the next 2 years via F/S and NGA. Butters the only real top end chip they have to play. Georgiades and Bergman aren't going to get them anything like Butters collateral if they choose to up stumps. Do you seriously believe JHF would leave Port?

 

[Blue Red and Gold]

Everyone has a price.

His price would be way too high given his injury concerns. pass.

 

[Danger in Texas]

We’re sniffing around Lachie Neale too

Wait is this inside info, or just from Gettable?

 

[Danger in Texas]

Berry is an interesting one if we can land Bailey. Assuming Rankine and Rachele continue to improve, and we get Curtin and Draper rolling then he does become a 5th or 6th banana.

We still need someone like him rotating through the middle

Someone who puts in the true hard yards

 

[1990crow]

Wait is this inside info, or just from Gettable?

I wouldn't be opposed to 2 seasons of Neale. So long as we get Bailey too.

 

[Danger in Texas]

I wouldn't be opposed to 2 seasons of Neale. So long as we get Bailey too.

Bailey is priority 1, of course

I’d love Neale too, though. We need a productive accumulating mid

 

[Cromulant]

We still need someone like him rotating through the middle

Someone who puts in the true hard yards

Thats true, you'd hope that was Soligo but at this stage he looks a way off. Youve got a (potential) midfield group of Dawson, Rankine, Rachele, Curtin, Soligo, Peatling and Draper. You then add a Bailey or a Neale..... has to squeeze someone out

 

[1990crow]

Bailey is priority 1, of course

I’d love Neale too, though. We need a productive accumulating mid

Salary would need to be low enough so we could replace him within 24 months.