List Mgmt. List Management Thread

[Cromulant]

Costs nothing and potential pay off is huge

So is the health insurance payout

 

[hugecannon]

I’d go for McCabe, if everyone is fit he’s a long way back in the queue at Hawthorn.

He’s done a solid apprenticeship now and should be ready to play.

 

[Trigger13]

Is Ballard an option?

 

[Crowtel]

Costs nothing and potential pay off is huge

So your solution for a player that is not durable is to bring in a ….player that is not durable?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Is Ballard an option?

Has a lengthy contract but if he's struggling to make their 22 coming off his ACL they'd maybe look to offload

 

[spenze]

Nik Cox ?? Lol

Can't leave his house without getting injured.

This is true, his latest injury was from carrying the bags of groceries into the kitchen.

Looks like a full shoulder reconstruction.

 

[1990crow]

Just get Bailey.

 

[Fud#3]

Thanks for the responses guys. Best of luck for tonight and beyond - have enjoyed watching this team this season so hopefully the showdown doesn't disappoint!

You got what you hoped for.

 

[Fud#3]

Has a lengthy contract but if he's struggling to make their 22 coming off his ACL they'd maybe look to offload

Jack Bowes deal style thanks.

 

[Redline]

Fascinating part of list management coming up.

Thilthorpe will get more he won't leave and we will be okay with Rankine and Dawson.

I don't care what people say about contracts or how much players love the club I guarantee there are big offers coming for Rachele and Worrell and we may have to renegotiate. That's just how it works now a days.

Likewise Curtin is probably going to get some big offers from the Eagles but thankfully they are no good

If we are in the mix for Bailey as well then we are going to need some big cap space. A few players are going to be be moved on. A real change in mindset for our club in the next couple of years.

 

[1970crow]

Yes he would

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Not only do they have low retention among the midfield group, they also have low threat ratings. So they’re biting off little and not regularly delivering even that.

 

[1970crow]

I think we put a pen through Butts long term , his body is just not durable

A few options

Nick Cox (Essendon )
Highly rated but Essendon can’t get him in the park consistently

Cal Wilkie
Throw a huge offer and force him out of St.Kilda

Will McCabe
Also one to throw a decent contract at

Other positions where we can add depth
Dodson another

Walker retiring , Maley isn’t the answer Max Gruzewski worth enquiring about


And not that he’d leave Vic with plenty of suitors but George Wardlaw

Why would we expect a different outcome than Essendon with Nick Cox?

 

[Scorpus]

Where does Nik Cox even play his best football? Seems a nothing player to me

 

[CDC60]

I was interested to see Brisbane giving a debut to Cody Curtin, Dan's 18-year-old brother. There was talk we were interested and maybe we would have taken him over Ludowyke at Pick 50 ,but even if we had I don't think he'd have been filling in for FOG by Round 8.

Brisbane seem to debut their kids a lot sooner than we do, including their big blokes, Logan Morris, also debuted as an 18 and Ty Gallup (19) being recent examples.

In the last five years Wilmot, Lohmann, Tunstill, W. Ashcroft, Fletcher, L Ashcroft and Sam Marshall have all debuted before turning 20 and have a combined 421 games. Now there's some top level talent there but we have Dowling, Edwards, Ryan, Draper, Welsh, Marsh and Ludo in the same period with 22 games between them and little likelihood they will add substantially to that this year.

Of course it's possible Brisbane select better, develop better, and are way less conservative at selection?

 

[1990crow]

I was interested to see Brisbane giving a debut to Cody Curtin, Dan's 18-year-old brother. There was talk we were interested and maybe we would have taken him over Ludowyke at Pick 50 ,but even if we had I don't think he'd have been filling in for FOG by Round 8.

Brisbane seem to debut their kids a lot sooner than we do, including their big blokes, Logan Morris, also debuted as an 18 and Ty Gallup (19) being recent examples.

In the last five years Wilmot, Lohmann, Tunstill, W. Ashcroft, Fletcher, L Ashcroft and Sam Marshall have all debuted before turning 20 and have a combined 421 games. Now there's some top level talent there but we have Dowling, Edwards, Ryan, Draper, Welsh, Marsh and Ludo in the same period with 22 games between them and little likelihood they will add substantially to that this year.

Of course it's possible Brisbane select better, develop better, and are way less conservative at selection?

Luckily Ludowyke does look good.
Brisbane can probably afford to because the rest of their side is filled with A grade talent.

We don't have that luxury.

 

[Peter Doherty]

Nik Cox ?? Lol

Can't leave his house without getting injured.

I stopped reading after that.

 

[Cromulant]

Luckily Ludowyke does look good.
Brisbane can probably afford to because the rest of their side is filled with A grade talent.

We don't have that luxury.

Id love he or Marsh to get a run this week.

 

[CDC60]

Id love he or Marsh to get a run this week.

Ludo played on Noah Balta for the VFL Academy so he has some experience!

 

[Mutineer]

I was interested to see Brisbane giving a debut to Cody Curtin, Dan's 18-year-old brother. There was talk we were interested and maybe we would have taken him over Ludowyke at Pick 50 ,but even if we had I don't think he'd have been filling in for FOG by Round 8.

Brisbane seem to debut their kids a lot sooner than we do, including their big blokes, Logan Morris, also debuted as an 18 and Ty Gallup (19) being recent examples.

In the last five years Wilmot, Lohmann, Tunstill, W. Ashcroft, Fletcher, L Ashcroft and Sam Marshall have all debuted before turning 20 and have a combined 421 games. Now there's some top level talent there but we have Dowling, Edwards, Ryan, Draper, Welsh, Marsh and Ludo in the same period with 22 games between them and little likelihood they will add substantially to that this year.

Of course it's possible Brisbane select better, develop better, and are way less conservative at selection?

What other warm bodied talls did they have available apart from Forward/Ruck Cody Curtin?
Oscar Allen, Eric Hipwood, Darcy Gardiner, Jack Payne all on the injury list, Forward/Ruck Henry Smith TBC.
Only other talls they had available were defender/ruck Zane Zakostelsky and 193cm.Luke Lloyd drafted as a forward but being developed as a defender via the VFL.

 

[CDC60]

What other warm bodied talls did they have available apart from Forward/Ruck Cody Curtin?
Oscar Allen, Eric Hipwood, Darcy Gardiner, Jack Payne all on the injury list, Forward/Ruck Henry Smith TBC.
Only other talls they had available were defender/ruck Zane Zakostelsky and 193cm.Luke Lloyd drafted as a forward but being developed as a defender via the VFL.

Gallop could have gone forward and they had two ruckmen that could have interchanged forward. Zakostelsky has had three games this year and could pinch hit forward and back and Will McLachlan played six games as a forward last year (three as the sub) and is 21.

But, Curtin wasn't a break glass emergency, Fagan said he would have debuted in Round Zero if he hadn't been injured in the practice match before.

The Lions obviously chose Curtin because they thought he was their best option and up to the job. My point is more, would we have done the same?

 

[Carn The Texan]

What other warm bodied talls did they have available apart from Forward/Ruck Cody Curtin?
Oscar Allen, Eric Hipwood, Darcy Gardiner, Jack Payne all on the injury list, Forward/Ruck Henry Smith TBC.
Only other talls they had available were defender/ruck Zane Zakostelsky and 193cm.Luke Lloyd drafted as a forward but being developed as a defender via the VFL.

Probably also fair to say Cody one of the few first year players who could genuinely be considered well built enough to take the field at AFL level

 

[Vader]

Gallop could have gone forward and they had two ruckmen that could have interchanged forward. Zakostelsky has had three games this year and could pinch hit forward and back and Will McLachlan played six games as a forward last year (three as the sub) and is 21.

But, Curtin wasn't a break glass emergency, Fagan said he would have debuted in Round Zero if he hadn't been injured in the practice match before.

The Lions obviously chose Curtin because they thought he was their best option and up to the job. My point is more, would we have done the same?

We're going to find out this week, with Tex & Fog both MIA due to injury.

 

[CDC60]

We're going to find out this week, with Tex & Fog both MIA due to injury.

My money is on Maley coming back

 

[Mutineer]

Gallop could have gone forward and they had two ruckmen that could have interchanged forward. Zakostelsky has had three games this year and could pinch hit forward and back and Will McLachlan played six games as a forward last year (three as the sub) and is 21.

But, Curtin wasn't a break glass emergency, Fagan said he would have debuted in Round Zero if he hadn't been injured in the practice match before.

The Lions obviously chose Curtin because they thought he was their best option and up to the job. My point is more, would we have done the same?

McLachlan isn't a tall forward, he's a medium forward.

I'd say if we were in the same predicament as Brisbane Tyler Welsh would likely get a debut game.

And I wouldn't put much faith in what Chris Fagan said, he's hardly going to say we're playing Cody because our tall forward cupboard is bare.

 

[CDC60]

McLachlan isn't a tall forward, he's a medium forward.

I'd say if we were in the same predicament as Brisbane Tyler Welsh would likely get a debut game.

And I wouldn't put much faith in what Chris Fagan said, he's hardly going to say we're playing Cody because our tall forward cupboard is bare.

Fagan said that before Round Zero. Cody wasn't a desperate selection.